Beijing Winter Olympics 2022

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I don't see American football being banned in the near future...

But I didn't know that the luge and skeleton were that dangerous. They just seem really bizarre as sports to me, I don't really get why anyone would watch it.

Ski mountaineering would be a good addition, I think!

Agree on the ski mountaineering. Such a great sport! I don't really see American football or any knock out sports getting banned. But they are dangerous. At least you know you got a concussion if you are knocked out. With sleding you might not notice the micro concussions that slowly injures your brain.
 
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I'd like to bring attention to Sverre Lunde pedersen's gold medal today in speed skating team pursuit.

Back in May he was in a bike accident where he damaged his liver and kidney, punctured his lung, and got several broken bones including cheekbone, arm and hand, as well as a neck injury., and a deep cut in the leg.

9 months later he quite literally pushes his team to a gold medal in the Olympics.
 
some guys from the Handball federation said that they would like it to be included, as it mainly takes place in Winter anyway.

Obviously, this won't happen, though, unless they decide to play on snow.

Then they could just as well include other indoor sports. Basketball, volleyball, table tennis etc etc. I wouldn't mind, but it would change the general winter feeling of the games.
 
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I enjoy the beauty of the more subjective events like figure skating and snow boarding, w big air and artistry being big factor,but for me measured and times is my preference.seeing split times and watching 2,3,4 people charging for a finish line. That said curling brings back memories of croquet against my brother and neighborhood kids .
I know figure skating is cool..
 
There are a bunch of legacy photos and videos of what previous Olympic venues, both summer and winter look like after the games have long since passed. All the sledding stuff I have seen is concrete flumes coated with ice for lubrication,but I don't see how they could ever change the surface for safety..
The downhill events have that industrial strength fishing net system that catches the skiier before they fly away..and the speed skating has those big marshmallow cushions that they crash into..
I don't see how you make sledding safer other than onboard airbags
 
Okay, the judging in the women's fs event today was ridiculous. I had hoped they would go a bit lowkey after all the attention, but no. The judging in men's really isn't bad, it's not perfect, but medals aren't decided by wrong decisions and overall it's pretty fair. The fact that the Russian men aren't scored like the Russian girls probably helps a lot.
Kamila / the Russian girls don't need any doping, they can simply rely on the judges.
It's very sad, because actually it's not at all subjective, but if the referees in football decided to just call handballs when they want to and ignore them when they don't want to see them and there are no consequences, I guess not so many people would like to see that sport either... The problem I suppose is that not enough viewers know the differences and what the judges should look out for, so there is no real public outcry.

I have no idea how this works though, whether it's really money the judges get or whether they are also threatened. The influence on them must be immense, though. Most screwed over today: the Japanese.

Figure skating (specifically women's) has by far the most issues with judging problems over the years (dating back decades). The other judged sports haven't been as bad.

I happen to agree in general that if you want to you can watch enough and pick up what is being done in a judged sport and have a very, very good idea where the score should be.

I participated in gymnastics when I was much younger, including taking it for gym class in college and having my college teacher for it teach me release moves on the uneven bars and release moves on the parallel bars.


As a note on a different sport, gotta congratulate the entire German 2-man bobsled contingent for sweeping the podium.
 
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Figure skating (specifically women's) has by far the most issues with judging problems over the years (dating back decades). The other judged sports haven't been as bad.

I happen to agree in general that if you want to you can watch enough and pick up what is being done in a judged sport and have a very, very good idea where the score should be.

I participated in gymnastics when I was much younger, including taking it for gym class in college and having my college teacher for it teach me release moves on the uneven bars and release moves on the parallel bars.


As a note on a different sport, gotta congratulate the entire German 2-man bobsled contingent for sweeping the podium.

I don't know much about gymnastics, but I think the judging there is indeed better. Also the commentary at least in German is much better, they explain exactly what is being done and how it should be done.

Haha, yes, the Germans get all their medals basically in the ice channel, all the sledges, bobsleighs, skeletons... :D That's obviously were we excel in...
 
I don't know much about gymnastics, but I think the judging there is indeed better. Also the commentary at least in German is much better, they explain exactly what is being done and how it should be done.

Haha, yes, the Germans get all their medals basically in the ice channel, all the sledges, bobsleighs, skeletons... :D That's obviously were we excel in...
That silver in the women’s XC relay was great though!
 
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Haha, yes, the Germans get all their medals basically in the ice channel, all the sledges, bobsleighs, skeletons... :D That's obviously were we excel in...

It is interesting what different countries with different traditions get out of the olympics. As a Norwegian we haven't had a good figure skater since the 1930s so very few cares about it even though it is among the most popular events in the rest of the world. We have no traditions in sledges at all.

The main passion for Norwegians is of course anything skiing. And personally I have a particular liking to the Nordic combined. It is THE quintessential Norwegian sport. And it does have a special standing when it comes to prestige amongst Norwegians, although it doesn't have the attention and media coverage as the separate sports of xc skiing and ski jumping has.
 
I don't know much about gymnastics, but I think the judging there is indeed better. Also the commentary at least in German is much better, they explain exactly what is being done and how it should be done.

Haha, yes, the Germans get all their medals basically in the ice channel, all the sledges, bobsleighs, skeletons... :D That's obviously were we excel in...

Better commentary definitely can help in understanding what is being done.

:laughing: Obviously you are extremely good in sliding sports. I mean 4 years ago we got a medal in skeleton and everyone was like in WHAT?!?! We're better at the 4 man bobsled than most other sliding events and I think Holcomb is the reason for that as he was such a good driver and had a great team. Our women have been good as well.

Definitely think tradition in a specific sport can help with what a country is good at.

As a side note, before Covid and hopefully if we can get to the other side of it, Lake Placid allows people to get rides down their sliding track in a bobsled.
 
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The amount of money that they invest in sleds and bobs is pretty crazy, that has to be said.
interestingly Friedrich used one of the women's ones btw, as he wasn't happy with his own one in training. So if Kim Kalicki wins as well this week, it would be two gold medals for the same bob.

Another 1-2 in both bob events and a victory in the Nordic Combined tomorrow would even move Germany in contention to top the medal table, despite taking gold medals almost solely in the ice channel - but Norway is obviously likely to strike back in the remaining Biathlon and CC events.
 
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Honestly overall that's Germany's (only real) strength: sports that need expensive equipment and that aren't done by too many other countries. :grimacing:
Because the general (financial) support of other sports than football isn't really there.
Yeah, there is a rather big difference between Italy and Germany in many sports. In Italy it's usually sports with a long tradition, a decent developmental system and where Italy has great coaches. When it comes to skiing sports many great coaches leave Italy because they don't want to put up with the federation and all the bs that comes with it...
 
Caught some of the women's figure skating yesterday - controversy aside there's no denying Valieva is a beautiful skater to watch, it sucks my first time ever seeing her perform has to be covered in so much muck. Unless she really screws up a medal for her is guaranteed tomorrow which means no podium ceremony... maybe the medal winners could at least get some chocolate medals for now? That way they could eat them and could at least get something out of this whole mess.

A burning question - are triple Axels considered more difficult than quads? I'm asking because the commentators (love Tara Lipinski and Johnny Weir as commentators, btw., they know their stuff), said in the short program quads are not allowed, the highest they can go is a triple Axel and not all gals even attempted it. So, what is the deal with triple Axels?
 
Honestly overall that's Germany's (only real) strength: sports that need expensive equipment...
The birthplace of BMW, Mercedes, and even VW - I wouldn't expect any less from a nation with such fine engineering. I wonder how much one of those BMW sleds go for... upon googling ouch, sleds can run up to $100,000 with an average of $30,000. Yeah that's kinda pricey, the $30,000 must be the generic one. :tearsofjoy:
 
Another 1-2 in both bob events and a victory in the Nordic Combined tomorrow would even move Germany in contention to top the medal table, despite taking gold medals almost solely in the ice channel - but Norway is obviously likely to strike back in the remaining Biathlon and CC events.
Norway have 5 good chances at golds in Nordic events, but only 1 that I'd say was nailed on (Johaug).
I'd say Norway look better for the NC relay than Germany. I still expect them to top the medal table, but way below the 22 they were projected to win.
 
BMW actually built a bobsleigh simulator (the world's only one, apparently) for the German bob team, with which they did loads of virtual runs on the olympic track
I don't even dare ask how much the simulator cost and it almost seems like an unfair advantage. But it is what it is...

Do they rent the simulator out to foreign athletes? (I would, it seems like an easy way to make a couple of extra bucks.)
 
Norway have 5 good chances at golds in Nordic events, but only 1 that I'd say was nailed on (Johaug).
I'd say Norway look better for the NC relay than Germany. I still expect them to top the medal table, but way below the 22 they were projected to win.
without Riiber taking part, I'd think it's advantage Germany. But still, yeah, even another silver medal is probably enough to top the table, unless Germany gets a surprise win in Biathlon, Ski Cross or that lottery of an Alpine Team Event.
 
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