Best Clincher tire for Track?

[Boeing]

Anyone have particular luck on the boards with clinchers?

what brand/model and sizing?

 

[JediTimbob]

I have some Vittoria Diamante Pro-lites (I think) on my track bike. After the initial ride when I didn't quite take the shine off the rubber and slid around the first corner I've had no problems. Nice and grippy in the corners.

 

[twothirds]

Panaracer stradius. Natural rubber compound that will stick to any track surface. Super grippy wear decently well and you can get they range from training tire to racing tire depending on the model you get. Not pricey either but can be a little hard to find.

 

[Alex Simmons/RST]

Good boards? Speed the primary objective?
Veloflex record. With a latex inner tube.

 

[Bustedknuckle]

Anyone have particular luck on the boards with clinchers?

what brand/model and sizing?

Something pretty sticky, Like Vittoria Open Corsas but ya ought to step up and get tubulars...best for pista afterall.

 

[gregod]

my local velodrome has a strict no clincher policy, not even for training. what is up with that?

 

[RDV4ROUBAIX]

my local velodrome has a strict no clincher policy, not even for training. what is up with that?

Safety. Since we run higher pressures on the track tubulars are the safest, most clinchers max out at 120psi, and if you blow one you're going down. Blow a tubular you still have a chance of riding the flat out safely. And if your track is wood a flat on a clincher may mean replacing boards, it could roll off the rim and gouge the boards.

 

[Notso Swift]

Even on a shallow out door velodrome the deflection on the tyre is quite marked.
My 10 year old does KIDZ and I built up a basic fixie with cheap "commuter" wheels you get for $80on fleabay.
Anyway 8 or maybe 12 deg bank on ashfelt and they tyre shows double the wear on the out side as the inner... she would weigh all of 35kg and put out about 80 watts.... now think of me 90 kg and 1600 W....

(I don't race track, but I do train on it with road bike intervals, you can quite often get the rim deflecting enough to rub a brake)

 

[badboygolf16v]

Tufo tubular clinchers worked well for me. Really high PSI, and safe deflation. Not that I ever punctured them on the track.

Riding 170 psi on the road however...

 

[ChrisRider]

Why would your local track ban the clinchers for? Thats a little crazy i think. Maybe the dont have insurance to cover them or something hehe

 

[fatsprintking]

As stated tracks with rules against clinchers is due to both safety and the damage caused by a blow out with a clincher where you will fall off and then maybe take down all the people behind you. Tubs you have a fighting chance of staying up. To be honest I am not sure that there are that many tracks that would continue with this rule however but old habits die hard.

I would second the veloflex with latex tubes route, or I have uses conti supersonics with latex as well. Most of the high end tyres will be fine but I have a soft spot for the veloflex.

Just as an aside, I was training by myself on one of our club bikes tonight doing flying 1 lappers. I thought the bike I was on had a creaky bb, but as I came around the home bend at full noise, my left arm crank came off. With the crank flapping in the breeze, all I could think of was what sort of big crash would you have if your right hand crank came off with a fixed wheel!!! Anyway if its not your bike check all the bolts - there are not that many on a track bike

 

[lavieclaire]

Just make sure you don't use new tyres on the track. Give them a good few tens of miles on the road first.

 

[Bustedknuckle]

Why would your local track ban the clinchers for? Thats a little crazy i think. Maybe the dont have insurance to cover them or something hehe

Original post from 2011..but for safety. Flat a clincher, tire comes off and you crash. Tubular does not plus only nancys ride clinchers.

 

[Boeing]

Original post from 2011..but for safety. Flat a clincher, tire comes off and you crash. Tubular does not plus only nancys ride clinchers.

Still living by the legend of old wives tales I see

who are you Peter White?

 

[acoggan]

Good boards? Speed the primary objective?
Veloflex record. With a latex inner tube.

Tire A:

http://www.trainingandracingwithapowermeter.com/2010/11/aero-tires-and-wheels-skinny-vs-fat.html

 

[simo1733]

Tire A:

http://www.trainingandracingwithapowermeter.com/2010/11/aero-tires-and-wheels-skinny-vs-fat.html

Veloflex.One of Sky's marginal gains.

 

[Master50]

A bare aluminum rim on a concrete track has more traction than you might think but a flat with clinchers on a wood track can and usually does gouge the boards. I once rode 5 Km on a bare rim and might have made the other 5 km if the spokes never unwound. My point is clinchers on concrete tracks are not so dangerous even with a flat but I agree that clinchers on a wood track are a danger to the boards. As for flats on clinchers versus tubs I agree the tubs are generally safer but I don't think a clincher flat automatically means a visit to the road rash clinic either. Punctures on the track are rare too. Rolled clinchers do happen but there was already someone headed for the deck whenever I have seen a blown clincher. Frankly a Vittoria open corsa or a continental 4000 is a great track tire. 20 to 23 for wood or concrete where permitted.
My personal on bike track experience is mostly on clinchers on a concrete track but I have worked races at many wood tracks too and many have clincher equipped rentals for their development programs.

 

[Bustedknuckle]

Still living by the legend of old wives tales I see

who are you Peter White?

Who's old wife are you?

 

[El Oso]

Would 25 mm tires be better on the track than 23 mm?

I would be using them on Open Pros and riding on a concrete track (San Diego).

 

[ElChingon]

Would 25 mm tires be better on the track than 23 mm?

I would be using them on Open Pros and riding on a concrete track (San Diego).

You should then get a kevlar liner as well, don't forget about that crack on turn one

 

[El Oso]

You should then get a kevlar liner as well, don't forget about that crack on turn one

Touché

Vittoria Open Pavè's it is then