Best rider per Country

[The Hitch]

Probably been done before, but to follow on from my "best rider on pt teams thread" Choose the best rider from the following countries ( i took the top 25 nations on cq and took away nations like Lux where the answer is obvious.


Spain
Italy
Belgium
France
United States
Slovenia
Denmark
Colombia
Poland
Ireland
Portugal
New Zealand

Ill start


Spain - Piti
Italy - Ivan the terrible
Belgium – Boonen
France- Tommy V
United States- Farrar
Slovenia - Janez
Denmark - Chicken
Colombia - Duarte
Poland -Niemiec
Ireland – Dany boy
Portugal - Machado
New Zealand - Henderson

 

[The Hitch]

Ill start


Spain - Piti
Italy - Ivan the terrible
Belgium – Boonen
France- Tommy V
United States- Farrar
Slovenia - Janez
Denmark - Chicken
Colombia - Duarte
Poland -Niemiec
Ireland – Dany boy
Portugal - Machado
New Zealand - Henderson

 

[Ryaguas]

mmmmm but active or what? cuz some of them are unable to ride... like BalaVerde

 

[Squire]

Spain - Valverde
Italy - Basso
Belgium - Boonen
France - Chavanel
United States - Farrar
Slovenia - Brajkovic
Denmark - Breschel
Colombia - Rujano
Poland - Szmyd (not too familiar with many others)
Ireland - Roche
Portugal - Paulinho
New Zealand - Henderson

And what about:
Russia - Menchov
Norway - Hushovd
Holland - Gesink
Austria - Eisel
Germany - Martin
UK - Cav
Belarus - Hutarovich

Surely some of them are outside of the 'obvious answer' category. Didn't bother listing Switzerland or Slovakia though.
Edit: Forgot that Slovakia has Velits, who could be a valid challenger to Sagan for Best Slovakian Rider.

 

[The Hitch]

Spain - Valverde
Italy - Basso
Belgium - Boonen
France - Chavanel
United States - Farrar
Slovenia - Brajkovic
Denmark - Breschel
Colombia - Rujano
Poland - Szmyd (not too familiar with many others)
Ireland - Roche
Portugal - Paulinho
New Zealand - Henderson

And what about:
Russia - Menchov
Norway - Hushovd
Holland - Gesink
Austria - Eisel
Germany - Martin
UK - Cav
Belarus - Hutarovich

Surely some of them are outside of the 'obvious answer' category. Didn't bother listing Switzerland or Slovakia though.
Edit: Forgot that Slovakia has Velits, who could be a valid challenger to Sagan for Best Slovakian Rider.

I havent slept in what is approaching 45 hours so i have no idea what i have done here.
You are right, Slovakia isnt so obvious. I tried to look at Slovakian riders through cq but they didnt have a list. Yes Velitz is.

And for some reason i didnt include Germany. I think i thought it was only Tony Martin that was German, totaly forgeting about Gorrila, which shows just how tired i am.

But the following

Russia - Menchov
Norway - Hushovd
Holland - Gesink
Uk - Cav

Are pretty obvious

Belarus its Huta vs Vasily but they werent in the top 25.
OH and Rujano isnt Colombian

 

[nvpacchi]

I havent slept in what is approaching 45 hours so i have no idea what i have done here.
You are right, Slovakia isnt so obvious. I tried to look at Slovakian riders through cq but they didnt have a list. Yes Velitz is.

And for some reason i didnt include Germany. I think i thought it was only Tony Martin that was German, totaly forgeting about Gorrila, which shows just how tired i am.

But the following

Russia - Menchov
Norway - Hushovd
Holland - Gesink
Uk - Cav

Are pretty obvious

Belarus its Huta vs Vasily but they werent in the top 25.
OH and Rujano isnt Colombian

Mr. Sagan ftw

 

[Squire]

Norway - Hushovd

I guess some would say EBH.

OH and Rujano isnt Colombian

Oops Keep forgetting about his Venezuelaness. For Colombia it would probably be Uran, with Duarte and Soler as potentially better.

 

[Ryaguas]

Ok... w/o taking in count who is banned and who is not...

Spain ---------> BalaVerde
Italy ---------> Il Squalo
Portugal ---------> Tiago
France ---------> Romain Feillu
Neederlands ---------> Gesink
Switzerland ---------> The C0cky c0ck
Belgium ---------> Gilbert
Germany ---------> Das Panzerwagen
Sweden ---------> Larsson
UK ---------> Cav
Venezuela ---------> Rujano
Colombia ---------> Serpa
Russia ---------> The Pope
USA ---------> Tyler
Slovakia ---------> Sagan
New Zeland ---------> Hendo
Australia ---------> Cuddles
Norway ---------> Thor
Denmark ---------> Matti Breschel
Argentina ---------> JJ Haedo
Ireland ---------> Roche
Kazakhstan ---------> Vino
Costa Rica ---------> Amador
Canada ---------> Ryder
Poland ---------> Szmyd
Lithuania ---------> Konovalovas
Czech Republic ---------> Kreuziger

Well that is the most that I can remember now

 

[Timmy-loves-Rabo]

Spain -> AC
Italy -> Baso
Portugal -> Tiago
France -> Romain Feillu
Nederlands -> Gesink
Switzerland -> Spartacus
Belgium -> Gilbert
Germany -> martin
Sweden-> Larsson
UK ---------> Cav
Russia -> Menchov
USA -> Tyler
Slovakia-> Sagan
New Zeland-> Hendo
Australia-> Cuddles
Norway-> EBH
Denmark -> Matti Breschel
Ireland -> Roche
Kazakhstan -> Vino
Canada -> Ryder
Czech Republic-> Kreuziger.. on road anyway

 

[nvpacchi]

Spain -Contador
Italy - Nibali
Belgium - Boonen
France - Voeckler
United States - Farrar
Slovenia - Bole
Denmark - Breschel
Colombia - Rodolfo Serpa
Venezuela- Rujano
Poland - Szmyd
Ireland - Roche
Portugal -Machado
New Zealand - Dean
Russia - Menchov or Kolobnev
Norway - Hushovd
Holland - Gesink
Switzerland- Canc.
Luxembourg- Kirchen >>> Schleck(s)
Germany -Martin (Degenkolb soon)
UK - Cav
Slovakia- Sagan
Estonia-Taaramae
Lithuania- Viatkus
Finland- Veikkanen (are there any others?)
Sweden- Lovkvist
Kazakhstan- Vino
Canada- Ryder
Australia- Evans
Ukraine- Grivkyo
Moldova- Pliuschin
Czech Republic- Kreuziger

 

[Ferminal]

Spain - Sammantha Sanchez
Italy - Visconti
Belgium - Gilbert
France - Voeckler
United States - Horner
Slovenia - Brajkovic
Denmark - Breschel
Colombia - Henao
Poland - Szmyd
Ireland - Martin
Portugal - Machado
New Zealand - Roulston

 

[ingsve]

Finland- Veikkanen (are there any others?)

There's Carlström at least and for some reason Matti Helminen got a contract with Landbouwkredit at 35 years age. They had some good talents in Kimmo Kananen and Jukka Vastaranta (who rode a couple seasons for Rabobank) but they haven't made a lasting impression on the pro ranks.

 

[Jukebox]

Spain -Contador
Italy - Basso
Belgium - Gilbert
France - Voeckler
United States - Farrar
Slovenia - Janez
Denmark - Breschel
Colombia - Durate
Venezuela- Rujano
Poland - Neimec
Ireland - Roche
Portugal -Machado
New Zealand - Henderson
Russia - Menchov
Norway - Hushovd
Holland - Gesink
Switzerland- Cancellara
Luxembourg- Schleck
Germany -Martin
UK - Cav
Slovakia- Sagan
Estonia-Taaramae
Lithuania- Viatkus
Finland- Veikkanen
Sweden- Lovkvist
Kazakhstan- Vino
Canada- Ryder
Australia- Evans
Ukraine- Grivko
Czech Republic- Kreuziger

 

[Roland Rat]

Ahem. UK = Emma Pooley. By a country mile.

 

[Captain_Cavman]

Ahem. UK = Emma Pooley. By a country mile.

I disagree but your point has implications for the Dutch, German and Swedish vote to name but three.

 

[Timmy-loves-Rabo]

Ahem. UK = Emma Pooley. By a country mile.

In that case. Vos is the best dutch cyclist. Pretty much the best cyclist in the world.
woo

 

[c&cfan]

gilbert better than bonnen and nibali better than basso? based in what? since when and where? on planet earth?no.

AC vs VAL.. now that's interesting.

 

[ttrider]

AC by a mile for spain, his palmares with 5 Gts is superior to anyone elses
Boonen is nowhere near Gilbert, Basso is far superior to Nibali, the US is tough but yeah id have to go with Farrar

 

[The Hitch]

AC by a mile for spain, his palmares with 5 Gts is superior to anyone elses
Boonen is nowhere near Gilbert, Basso is far superior to Nibali, the US is tough but yeah id have to go with Farrar

You choose Contador "by a mile" over Valverde based on Palmares, then in the next breath say that Boonen (whose palmares is similarly superior to Gilbers as AC's is to Valverde) is "nowhere near Gilbert"

 

[Ryo Hazuki]

Spain - contador
Italy - scarponi
Belgium - gilbert
France - peraud
United States - leipheimer
Slovenia - bole
Denmark - fuglsang
Colombia - henao
Poland - niemec
Ireland - roche
Portugal - machado
New Zealand - henderson
uk - cavendish
venezuela - rujano
germany - martin
norway - hushovd
netherlands - gesink

 

[El Pistolero]

Spain - contador: by a long shot. No way a second tier climber, second tier sprinter, second tier time trial specialist comes close.
Italy - Basso
Belgium - gilbert, again by a long shot. Last 2 seasons were simply way better.
France - Don't care
United States - Tyler Farrar
Slovenia - bole
Denmark - fuglsang
Colombia - henao
Poland -don't know
Ireland - roche
Portugal - machado
New Zealand - Jesse
uk - cavendish
venezuela - rujano
germany - martin
norway - hushovd
netherlands - gesink

 

[The Hitch]

Valverde is a second tier climber, second tier sprinter, second tier time trial specialist.

So whats Gilbert then

Boy are we going to need to jump high into the tiers to identify Gilbis great skills as a climber sprinter and time trialist if Valverde is only second tier.

 

[El Pistolero]

gilbert better than bonnen and nibali better than basso? based in what? since when and where? on planet earth?no.

AC vs VAL.. now that's interesting.

Gilbert:
2009
1st Overall Ster Elektrotoer
1st Stage 4
1st Giro di Lombardia
1st Paris–Tours
1st Stage 20 Giro d'Italia
1st Giro del Piemonte
1st Coppa Sabatini
3rd Ronde van Vlaanderen
4th Amstel Gold Race
4th Liège–Bastogne–Liège
6th UCI Road World Championships
2010
1st Stage 3 Vuelta a España
1st Stage 19 Vuelta a España
1st Giro di Lombardia
1st Stage 1 Tour of Belgium
1st Amstel Gold Race
1st Giro del Piemonte
3rd Gent–Wevelgem
3rd Ronde van Vlaanderen
3rd Liège–Bastogne–Liège
5th Brabantse Pijl
6th La Flèche Wallonne
9th Milan – San Remo
2011
1st Stage 1 Volta ao Algarve
1st Montepaschi Strade Bianche

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Boonen:

2009
1st Belgian National Road Race Championship
1st Paris–Roubaix
1st Kuurne–Brussels–Kuurne
1st Stage 3, Eneco Tour
1st Overall, Tour of Qatar
1st Stage 3
1st Stage 3 Circuit Franco-Belge
2nd E3 Prijs Vlaanderen
2nd Paris–Tours
3rd Dwars door Vlaanderen
2010
1st Stage 5 Tour of Oman
1st Stage 2 Tirreno–Adriatico
2nd Milan – San Remo
2nd E3 Prijs Vlaanderen
2nd Ronde van Vlaanderen
3rd Overall Tour of Qatar
1st Stage 3
1st Stage 5
5th Paris–Roubaix
2011
1st Stage 1 Tour of Qatar

Winner= Gilbert

Valverde vs Contador:

Valverde:
2008
Champion, UCI ProTour
1st Overall, Vuelta a Murcia
1st Stage 4
2nd, Klasika Primavera
1st, Paris–Camembert
3rd, Amstel Gold Race
1st, Liège–Bastogne–Liège
1st Overall, Critérium du Dauphiné Libéré
1st, Points Classification
1st, Stage 1
1st, Stage 3 (ITT)
1st, Spanish National Road Race Championships
9th Overall, Tour de France
1st, Stage 1
1st, Stage 6
1st, Clásica de San Sebastián
5th Overall, Vuelta a España
1st, Stage 2
2009
9th Overall, Vuelta a Castilla y León
1st, Points Classification
1st, Mountains Classification
1st, Combination Classification
1st, Stage 3
1st, Stage 5
1st, Klasika Primavera
7th, La Flèche Wallonne
4th Overall, 2009 Tour de Romandie
1st, Overall, Volta a Catalunya
1st, Stage 3
1st Overall, Critérium du Dauphiné Libéré
2nd Overall, Vuelta a la Comunidad de Madrid
1st overall, Vuelta a Burgos
1st Overall, Vuelta a España
Winner combination classification

Contador:

Vuelta a Castilla y León
Winner overall classification
Winner combination classification
Winner Spanish rider classification
1st, Stage 1 (ITT)
1st, Stage 4
Vuelta al País Vasco
Winner overall classification
1st Stage 1
1st Stage 6 (ITT)
Giro d'Italia
Winner overall classification
Beijing Olympics
4th, Individual Time Trial
Vuelta a España
Winner overall classification
Winner combination classification
1st, Stage 13
1st, Stage 14
2009 – Astana
Volta ao Algarve
Winner overall classification
1st, Stage 4 (ITT)
Paris–Nice
4th overall classification
1st, Stage 1 (ITT)
1st, Stage 6
Vuelta al País Vasco
Winner overall classification
1st, Stage 3
1st, Stage 6 (ITT)
Dauphiné Libéré
3rd overall classification
Spanish National Time Trial Championships
1st position
Tour de France
Winner overall classification
1st, Stage 4 (TTT)
1st, Stage 15
1st, Stage 18 (ITT)

Winner= ...

 

[The Hitch]

2009
1st Overall Ster Elektrotoer
1st Stage 4
1st Giro di Lombardia
1st Paris–Tours
1st Stage 20 Giro d'Italia
1st Giro del Piemonte
1st Coppa Sabatini
3rd Ronde van Vlaanderen
4th Amstel Gold Race
4th Liège–Bastogne–Liège
6th UCI Road World Championships
2010
1st Stage 3 Vuelta a España
1st Stage 19 Vuelta a España
1st Giro di Lombardia
1st Stage 1 Tour of Belgium
1st Amstel Gold Race
1st Giro del Piemonte
3rd Gent–Wevelgem
3rd Ronde van Vlaanderen
3rd Liège–Bastogne–Liège
5th Brabantse Pijl
6th La Flèche Wallonne
9th Milan – San Remo
2011
1st Stage 1 Volta ao Algarve
1st Montepaschi Strade Bianche

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2009
1st Belgian National Road Race Championship
1st Paris–Roubaix
1st Kuurne–Brussels–Kuurne
1st Stage 3, Eneco Tour
1st Overall, Tour of Qatar
1st Stage 3
1st Stage 3 Circuit Franco-Belge
2nd E3 Prijs Vlaanderen
2nd Paris–Tours
3rd Dwars door Vlaanderen
2010
1st Stage 5 Tour of Oman
1st Stage 2 Tirreno–Adriatico
2nd Milan – San Remo
2nd E3 Prijs Vlaanderen
2nd Ronde van Vlaanderen
3rd Overall Tour of Qatar
1st Stage 3
1st Stage 5
5th Paris–Roubaix
2011
1st Stage 1 Tour of Qatar

So what. Boonen is a 1st tier cobbled rider and sprinter.

No way does a 11 th tier time trialist , 6th tier climber and 28th tier sprinter comes close.

 

[El Pistolero]

So what. Boonen is a 1st tier cobbled rider and sprinter.

No way does a 11 th tier time trialist , 6th tier climber and 28th tier sprinter comes close.

He does, last 2 seasons were simply better. That's all that matters.

Boonen is a second tier sprinter by the way.

Gilbert is a world class puncheur. Boonen is world class on the cobbles.

In no world is 1 classic better than 4 classics.
Paris-Roubaix is not bigger than winning Giro di Lombardia twice, winning AGR and Paris-Tours(against the very same Boonen btw)