Bin Laden dead

[Offtheback]

Report by Courier Mail, Brisbane:
http://www.couriermail.com.au/news/world/osama-bin-laden-dead/comments-e6freop6-1226048338724
that Bin Laden was killed by US special forces in Abbottabad, ****stan.

 

[Ferminal]

I figure we may as well keep this as a thread of its own, given the significance (in the media at least) of the event.

When watching the news unfold, I had to turn it off when they started showing the pictures of the crowd outside the White House, flags, chanting, celebrating etc. Is that not a breeding ground for hatred and intolerance.

Is it really a time for celebration? Rather than a time where our thoughts should be with those who have been deeply affected by decades of terrorism (of which OBL was involved in to varying degrees). Should it be seen as some sort of closure, rather than a "victory". Of course, I am not one of those persons so cannot understand what they have been through or are going through now.

Then I heard on the radio someone call in and say they were finishing work early to go and celebrate the victory as this is a war and a great objective has finally been achieved... had to turn that off too.

 

[Moondance]

Great news. Many thanks and congratulations to the American Armed and Security Forces who have accomplished this.

I warrant that there will be a million and one conspiracy theories about his quick burial though. Those people will be insufferable.

 

[Moondance]

This made me smile

 

[Astana1]

Going to enjoy a nice pulled pork sandwich for dinner for celebration. Maybe have a side of bacon too. I don't even like bacon.

I don't think that killing Bin Laden will do much long term, but I am glad that the guy that played a major role in slaughtering so many thousands of innocent people on purpose is dead.

 

[ulrikmm]

I figure we may as well keep this as a thread of its own, given the significance (in the media at least) of the event.

When watching the news unfold, I had to turn it off when they started showing the pictures of the crowd outside the White House, flags, chanting, celebrating etc. Is that not a breeding ground for hatred and intolerance.

Is it really a time for celebration? Rather than a time where our thoughts should be with those who have been deeply affected by decades of terrorism (of which OBL was involved in to varying degrees). Should it be seen as some sort of closure, rather than a "victory". Of course, I am not one of those persons so cannot understand what they have been through or are going through now.

Then I heard on the radio someone call in and say they were finishing work early to go and celebrate the victory as this is a war and a great objective has finally been achieved... had to turn that off too.

From my perspective: the celebration is distasteful and shortsighted. Eg. The Armstrong tweets that reached the Danish news within hours after the news broke. Does USA really need to give the rest of the world the impression of being a violent and revengeful society?

 

[flyor64]

From my perspective: the celebration is distasteful and shortsighted. Eg. The Armstrong tweets that reached the Danish news within hours after the news broke. Does USA really need to give the rest of the world the impression of being a violent and revengeful society?

For that matter, does ANY society/country need to do that?

 

[hrotha]

Some of the reactions to this news are disgusting. And hilarious. Like this post at another forum I frequent:

I could not be happier!! PP John Paul II has been beatified, and on the way to becoming an official saint, and Osama Bin Laden has been slaughtered! Go America! Go Catholicism! This is too frickin' good to even be true! American Catholic Pride Forever!

 

[El Pistolero]

Why would revenge be a bad thing?

If you ask anyone what the source of the Western world is they'll most likely answer Greece or Rome anyway. Revenge was a good thing in those societies. It's just a matter of how you look at things.

Why wouldn't people be happy with his dead? Most people are too ignorant to realize Al-Zawahiri is the real leader anyway. Killing Bin Laden is an electoral victory above all.

I bet the Republicans are sulking right now.

 

[Astana1]

Lawrence Wright, who wrote "The Looming Tower" was asked by many an interviewer how this Bin Laden thing out to end. He really wanted him captured alive and put on trial. Even though I would have been afraid of him being put on some BS European show trial, I was pretty much swayed

OBL's Al Queda used to employ a menacing little tactic. When bombing embassies in Africa they used two explosions. The first one was small and it was designed to get everyone's attention, hopefully people would walk close to a window to see what was going on. The second one was the big one. The explosion would blow the glass inward on all of the buildings killing/maiming/blinding many.

It's a pity he wasn't captured alive. I always wanted to see him on trial and having to explain to all of those people why it was that it was neccessary for him to do that.

 

[Astana1]

Why would revenge be a bad thing?

If you ask anyone what the source of the Western world is they'll most likely answer Greece or Rome anyway. Revenge was a good thing in those societies. It's just a matter of how you look at things.

Why wouldn't people be happy with his dead? Most people are too ignorant to realize Al-Zawahiri is the real leader anyway. Killing Bin Laden is an electoral victory above all.

I bet the Republicans are sulking right now.

Doubt it. Plenty of Republicans out celebrating.

Sometimes I wonder if anything America did in regards to Bin Laden would be viewed as acceptable. We could have captured him alive, wisked him off to a luxurious custom built compound in New Mexico, with a Starbucks and a swimming pool and the weasels would still criticize us for being inhumane.

 

[El Pistolero]

If you want to be really inhumane they should have just forced him to kill him self lol. Wouldn't be a martyr then and he'd go straight to hell, at least that's what would go through his head.

 

[movingtarget]

Thank God the Americans waited until the royal wedding concluded ! Good news for the human race in general except for the deluded who think they have a licence to maim and murder the innocent on religious principles or perverted religious principles.

 

[Bavarianrider]

Who actually believes in this also must believe in St Claus and the Easter Bunny.

 

[El Imbatido]

Some think the image was photoshopped. Take a look at this:

http://photoblog.msnbc.msn.com/_new...we-think-that-bin-laden-death-photo-is-a-fake

 

[hrotha]

Who actually believes in this also must believe in St Claus and the Easter Bunny.

Well, St Claus and the Easter Bunny can't post a video proving the American government is lying, so there's that.

 

[Stingray34]

OBL has been reported dead half a dozen times since 2004. How do we know this is real?

Is the news so welcomed it's accepted without question?

If true, I don't think it changes anything. Can all our troops come home now? Will airport security cool it and relax now?

It's symbolic. The witch may be dead but we can't sing 'ding dong' anytime yet.

 

[Semper Fidelis]

Some think the image was photoshopped. Take a look at this:
FAKE IMAGE removed

The United States Government has not released any photo of Osama. What ever the photo is or whom ever made this photo is not official.

 

[nvpacchi]

I figure we may as well keep this as a thread of its own, given the significance (in the media at least) of the event.

When watching the news unfold, I had to turn it off when they started showing the pictures of the crowd outside the White House, flags, chanting, celebrating etc. Is that not a breeding ground for hatred and intolerance.

Is it really a time for celebration? Rather than a time where our thoughts should be with those who have been deeply affected by decades of terrorism (of which OBL was involved in to varying degrees). Should it be seen as some sort of closure, rather than a "victory". Of course, I am not one of those persons so cannot understand what they have been through or are going through now.

Then I heard on the radio someone call in and say they were finishing work early to go and celebrate the victory as this is a war and a great objective has finally been achieved... had to turn that off too.

well put Ferminal, this is simply the epilogue of a somber book that has finally been closed. No need to celebrate, instead it is time to look back and quietly reminisce

 

[The Hitch]

I have heard it said repeatidly today that we should watch out for attacks now. While true it should be taken into account that most terror attacks take years of planning. Are they going to come up with one at a few days notice? I suppose if they had the materials for a bomb they could just change the target and hope nothing stops them before but in the last few years many of their attacks in the west have failed even with the years of planning - cartridge bombs, times square car bomb, chrismas day bomber, transatlantic airplane attempts, July 22nd London attempt.

For those who say that people can celebrate now because some celebrated on 911, id say the better example is the way people celebrated when 2 days earlier 2 sociopaths posing as cameramen blew up Ahmad Shah Massoud, a Mujahadeen leader and devout muslim who was the major voice in Islam against the Taleban and Al qaeda. Bin Laden in fact said this was a more important mission than 911.

Or the way they celebrated the death of Sérgio de Mello, a Un diplomat whose crime was that he brought independence to East Timor, a peninsula bin laden believed should continue under Indonesian occupation. In fact that the Americans had supported independence in East Timor was one of the major reasons bin Laden gave for blowing up its embassies in 1998.

Im not one to celebrate this, but i guess in the same ways the little elfs in wizzard of oz shout "hooray the witch is dead" people in the west can do the same if it makes them feel better.

From what i read about bin laden his stupidity was mindblowing. According to his son who attempts to defend him, bin laden would shoot animals in the belief that they had once been jews, and other **** like that. Maybe the world wont be a safer place considering command will likely switch to Ayman al zawahri who is a qualified doctor and apparently a deep thinker. Its possible though that he has been the leader for a few years now.

If you want to be really inhumane they should have just forced him to kill him self lol. Wouldn't be a martyr then and he'd go straight to hell, at least that's what would go through his head.

Ive heard many times that according to Al Quaeda defectors, bin laden had a loyal confidant with a gun always by his side whose sole purpose was to shoot bin laden in the event of capture.

Thank God the Americans waited until the royal wedding concluded !

Yeah I was thinking the same too. Had this happened on friday no one would have known about it.

 

[movingtarget]

Would they have waited 10 years if the story is just a propaganda stunt ? I doubt it. It seems he had not had an active role for a long time so as other's have stated, it's more symbolic than anything else.

 

[BM1979]

There goes my redundancy but other than that great news

 

[redtreviso]

I have heard it said repeatidly today that we should watch out for attacks now. While true it should be taken into account that most terror attacks take years of planning. Are they going to come up with one at a few days notice? I suppose if they had the materials for a bomb they could just change the target and hope nothing stops them before but in the last few years many of their attacks in the west have failed even with the years of planning - cartridge bombs, times square car bomb, chrismas day bomber, transatlantic airplane attempts, July 22nd London attempt.

For those who say that people can celebrate now because some celebrated on 911, id say the better example is the way people celebrated when 2 days earlier 2 sociopaths posing as cameramen blew up Ahmad Shah Massoud, a Mujahadeen leader and devout muslim who was the major voice in Islam against the Taleban and Al qaeda. Bin Laden in fact said this was a more important mission than 911.

Or the way they celebrated the death of Sérgio de Mello, a Un diplomat whose crime was that he brought independence to East Timor, a peninsula bin laden believed should continue under Indonesian occupation. In fact that the Americans had supported independence in East Timor was one of the major reasons bin Laden gave for blowing up its embassies in 1998.

Im not one to celebrate this, but i guess in the same ways the little elfs in wizzard of oz shout "hooray the witch is dead" people in the west can do the same if it makes them feel better.

From what i read about bin laden his stupidity was mindblowing. According to his son who attempts to defend him, bin laden would shoot animals in the belief that they had once been jews, and other **** like that. Maybe the world wont be a safer place considering command will likely switch to Ayman al zawahri who is a qualified doctor and apparently a deep thinker. Its possible though that he has been the leader for a few years now.



Ive heard many times that according to Al Quaeda defectors, bin laden had a loyal confidant with a gun always by his side whose sole purpose was to shoot bin laden in the event of capture.



Yeah I was thinking the same too. Had this happened on friday no one would have known about it.

Debbie Downer-------------------------

 

[Michielveedeebee]

Some Americans show once again that they're quite a vengeful and hateful bunch. Which is understandable to a certain degree. I don't understand why it should become some kind of national celebration though..
Don't know whether or not it's very good that he's dead. The Al Qaeda movement is better of with a dead martyr than with an intelligent leader in terms of recruiting and stirring up the people against the Western world imo

 

[TRDean]

Some Americans show once again that they're quite a vengeful and hateful bunch. Which is understandable to a certain degree. I don't understand why it should become some kind of national celebration though..
Don't know whether or not it's very good that he's dead. The Al Qaeda movement is better of with a dead martyr than with an intelligent leader in terms of recruiting and stirring up the people against the Western world imo

Americans are no different than the Dutch, English, Germans, French, etc.