Bjarne Riis Fired from Tinkov-Saxo Team!?

[Jancouver]

From Google translate:

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Bjarne Riis is heading towards a humiliating exit from international cycling.

It happens after Tinkoff-Saxo Russian team owner, eccentric man Oleg Tinkov, has thrown the Danish cycling boss out of the team as a consequence of poor performance.

A dramatic rupture was under way, they sensed already during Sunday's classic Milano-Sanremo, where Bjarne Riis was not present.

It was a good reason. Bjarne Riis was ahead of the Italian storløb put outside the door. Away from the life's work, he in December 2013 sold to the Russian wack and live Oleg Tinkov.

Not even the riders on Tinkoff-Saxo got no explanation as to why Bjarne Riis himself was not present at what should have been an interim milestone in the early part of the season. An event in which the team's newly acquired superstar Peter Sagan had a victory in the 298 km long run down to the light, the sun and the seaside resort of Sanremo.

The explanation followed, according to BT information Monday morning. And it was delivered by mail from Oleg Tinkovs CEO, Stefano Feltrin, who announce that Riis was officially "suspended".

None on and around the team has to BT could prepare for what the word suspended covers.

 

[mrhender]

I see only two options...

1. Riis gave Tinkov a slammer upon his twitter frenzy and now got repaid with a suspension for being illoyal..

2. (Clinic) The ADD report is going to be hard on Riis and regardless of potential SOL run out he is due to yet another public storm on his character.

I'am leaning towards option two... But Tinkov may be using another excuse...

 

[SeriousSam]

3. Billionaires who made it big in business usually subscribe to a heads-will-roll philosophy of management when things don't go well

 

[May0maniac]

I think this thread should be moved to the Clinic.
Edit: there is already a Bjarne thread over there, so we can have a normall discussion here.

 

[infeXio]

Re:

I think this thread should be moved to the Clinic.

It's not necessarily clinic-related

 

[mrhender]

3. Billionaires who made it big in business usually subscribe to a heads-will-roll philosophy of management when things don't go well

His latest "performances" has been quite the like of a maniac...

Riis is the backbone on that team, and I do think the lack of results in some parts has been due to insecurity on Riis future.. The riders like and respect him.. Tinkov can't bee that stupid -for a few missed wins...

I'am certain there is a "clinical" element in this...

Anyway I predict harsh times ahead for the team if the key man dissappears and there is no balance to Tinkov within.

EDIT: sorry for the clinic references I will refrain from doing more before it is wither moved or clinic discussion is moved to his clinic thread... But it is hard not to consider it in the equation...

 

[Cimber]

Re:

I think this thread should be moved to the Clinic.[/

Apparently the suspension is not due to clinic reasons but lack of results and/or disagreements on how to manage the riders (according to Danish media), so till we know otherwise it should stay here

 

[SeriousSam]

3. Billionaires who made it big in business usually subscribe to a heads-will-roll philosophy of management when things don't go well

His latest "performances" has been quite the like of a maniac...

Riis is the backbone on that team, and I do think the lack of results in some parts has been due to insecurity on Riis future.. The riders like and respect him.. Tinkov can't bee that stupid -for a few missed wins...

I'am certain there is a "clinical" element in this...

Anyway I predict harsh times ahead for the team if the key man dissappears and there is no balance to Tinkov within.

EDIT: sorry for the clinic references I will refrain from doing more before it is wither moved or clinic discussion is moved to his clinic thread... But it is hard not to consider it in the equation...

I think you underestimate how quickly heads can roll in business. Posted this in the Contador thread, gonna post it here as well:

Sounds like a case of Tinkov being unable to accept that the determinants of success in cycling can't be controlled as much as he'd like. Big business types always have that problem because they think they're millionaires or billionaires because they worked hard and made their success, refusing to understand that uncontrollable factors like luck play a large role.

When faced with bad results, they therefore tend to attribute it to a lack of competence.

 

[staubsauger]

Finally!

Evviva Oleg Tinkov!!!

 

[roundabout]

Re:

I think this thread should be moved to the Clinic.
Edit: there is already a Bjarne thread over there, so we can have a normall discussion here.

don't think we have a clinic section that covers people like Tinkov in this forum

Full respect to Riis if he indeed stood up to the ******

 

[roundabout]

3. Billionaires who made it big in business usually subscribe to a heads-will-roll philosophy of management when things don't go well

His latest "performances" has been quite the like of a maniac...

Riis is the backbone on that team, and I do think the lack of results in some parts has been due to insecurity on Riis future.. The riders like and respect him.. Tinkov can't bee that stupid -for a few missed wins...

I'am certain there is a "clinical" element in this...

Anyway I predict harsh times ahead for the team if the key man dissappears and there is no balance to Tinkov within.

EDIT: sorry for the clinic references I will refrain from doing more before it is wither moved or clinic discussion is moved to his clinic thread... But it is hard not to consider it in the equation...

I think you underestimate how quickly heads can roll in business. Posted this in the Contador thread, gonna post it here as well:

Sounds like a case of Tinkov being unable to accept that the determinants of success in cycling can't be controlled as much as he'd like. Big business types always have that problem because they think they're millionaires or billionaires because they worked hard and made their success, refusing to understand that uncontrollable factors like luck play a large role.

When faced with bad results, they therefore tend to attribute it to a lack of competence.

it's not the first team he owns and it's not the first disappointing patch of results that he has had

no, he is just a ****, who somehow made enough money to buy a team

 

[del1962]

Happier times

 

[LaFlorecita]

This guy is just nuts. The sooner he's out of the sport the better. He's shitting on the team on twitter and insulting people who've been fans of the team since way before he came into the picture Riders like Contador, Rogers and Basso BETTER speak out.

 

[Cance > TheRest]

Re: Re:

think it's the culmination of 2 years of a tense relationship between two totally opposite men.

 

[LaFlorecita]

Watch for Saxo pulling out at the end of the season. Just what Tinkov wants of course. Excuse me while I go vomit.

 

[del1962]

So Tinkov wanted Riis to demote de Jongue

 

[mrhender]

Re:

Watch for Saxo pulling out at the end of the season. Just what Tinkov wants of course. Excuse me while I go vomit.

That is a natural consequense... They always said they were sponsoring the team only because of Riis...

Not so sure Contador is happy with his contract extension... And I'am also sure the riders are not happy with this regardless of the reasons..

 

[LaFlorecita]

Re: Re:

Watch for Saxo pulling out at the end of the season. Just what Tinkov wants of course. Excuse me while I go vomit.

That is a natural consequense... They always said they were sponsoring the team only because of Riis...

Not so sure Contador is happy with his contract extension... And I'am also sure the riders are not happy with this regardless of the reasons..

I don't think anyone on the team - riders and staff alike - likes Tinkov except for the Russians maybe!!

 

[Jancouver]

I think you underestimate how quickly heads can roll in business. Posted this in the Contador thread, gonna post it here as well:

Sounds like a case of Tinkov being unable to accept that the determinants of success in cycling can't be controlled as much as he'd like. Big business types always have that problem because they think they're millionaires or billionaires because they worked hard and made their success, refusing to understand that uncontrollable factors like luck play a large role.

When faced with bad results, they therefore tend to attribute it to a lack of competence.

Yeah, something like that.

For some unknown reason, some individuals are unable to comprehend that out of 200 riders in a race, only one can win and in most cases, the strongest or fastest guy will not win.

 

[roundabout]

Re:

Watch for Saxo pulling out at the end of the season. Just what Tinkov wants of course. Excuse me while I go vomit.

If they don't win a GT and/or a monument it could be more than Saxo pulling out

 

[LaFlorecita]

Re: Re:

Watch for Saxo pulling out at the end of the season. Just what Tinkov wants of course. Excuse me while I go vomit.

If they don't win a GT and/or a monument it could be more than Saxo pulling out

Let's hope so.

 

[Miburo]

Re: Re:

Watch for Saxo pulling out at the end of the season. Just what Tinkov wants of course. Excuse me while I go vomit.

If they don't win a GT and/or a monument it could be more than Saxo pulling out

Let's hope so.

You do realise you're talking about the jobs of 50 people? I hope he says for the sake of those. Unless someones takes over the team, like alonso orso

If it's true what happened, then kudos to riss but yea riis doesn't get *** and say nothing back, not the type of guy.

 

[sir fly]

Fickleness could cost the team more than the lack of form or ambitious goals.

 

[rm7]

If Riis gets fired, then Saxo will definitely leave at the end of the year. It's an absolut joke if Riis got fired, because there's a lack of results. Wasn't Tinkov the one that wanted Contador to do all the GT's? Did he expect Contador to win all the small races before and beetween them too?

Actually i like Tinkov, but his management is crazy if it's true.

Also regarding Sagan - the other years he has been good for a long period of times, this time Bjarne is trying to make him super peak for the Classics, which means he can't be good in the early part of the season. Tinkov is crazy.

 

[rhubroma]

Sky is on high heaven. What an idiot. Russian ex-communist capitalism is as feudal as communism was, and as corrupt. My serfs are my property and if they don't produce then I kill them. Orthodoxy at its finest.