Reference thread for blood doping, which means all forms of (legal, illegal, semi-legal) blood boosting, across sports, across nationalities, and across eras.
I'm personally particularly interested in the questions of feasibility, spread and types of blood doping in the 60s, 70s and 80s, and even more particularly in the use of blood transfusions in cycling (particularly GTs) in the 70s and 80s.
Taking this from the Lemond thread:
So are you saying white blood cell depletion makes repeated transfusions from one and the same donor safe?
Was white blood cell depletion possible in the 80s?
I'm personally particularly interested in the questions of feasibility, spread and types of blood doping in the 60s, 70s and 80s, and even more particularly in the use of blood transfusions in cycling (particularly GTs) in the 70s and 80s.
Taking this from the Lemond thread:
thanks, djp, for clarifying.djpbaltimore said:sniper said:thanks, MI, very clarifying.
I'm still confused about djpbaltimore's description of homologous transfusion as containing a 'real risk'.
If a qualified doctor takes all the necessary steps, compatibility testing, screening for any alloantibodies, etc., and both the donor and recipient are perfectly healthy people, what kind of risks are we realistically left with?
You are not understanding the immunology of transfusions. Every transfusion runs the risk of a person developing an allergy to the donor blood which it sees as 'non-self'. But it is like the example of poison ivy where the first exposure leads to sensitization, but no overt symptoms. A second exposure would potentially lead to a systemic allergic reaction. This has nothing to do with screening before the transfusion, whether the people involved are healthy, or whether a doctor was present during the transfusion. Since repeated transfusions from the same donor are not typically done for the fear of allergy, there will be no stats to determine the exact degree of risk. But speaking as an Immunologist, repeated transfusions without white blood cell depletion from a single source is foolish and dangerous. It would be much preferable to vary the source of the donor blood, or as most riders later discovered; to use their own.
So are you saying white blood cell depletion makes repeated transfusions from one and the same donor safe?
Was white blood cell depletion possible in the 80s?