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Nicoper said:Just because I live far from you
1. Rosseler
2. de Gendt
3. Walle
I am holding you for your post
WINNAR!
Although I did call the win for Rosseler an hour ago.
The Rat Shack finally gets one ....... woo hoo . Makes me want to go out and buy some cheap electronic items.
The slowest sprint since Flecha tried to take Hushovd.
The BP will now be automatically upgraded to be worth 100 UCI points.
The BP will now be automatically upgraded to be worth 100 UCI points.
Yes, this will be the race to test the legs in for the Ardennes classics, from next year onwards.Buffalo Soldier said:
But will the big teams pick it up?
Seems they didn't this year.
I mean, Gilbert ok, but I don't see Martens, Leukemans and Voeckler mixing it up with the best.
Seems they didn't this year.
I mean, Gilbert ok, but I don't see Martens, Leukemans and Voeckler mixing it up with the best.
I think you could be wrong there. [dutchism]These guys are no cake bakers.[/dutchism]Dekker_Tifosi said:
PR and RVV have nothing to do with Amstel.Buffalo Soldier said:
Leukemans best result in Amstel is barely top 10, he couldn't follow the best even in his top year 2007.
He has proven his form is great.Dekker_Tifosi said:
7th in amstel in 2005.
So why would't he be able to do something this year?
He hasn't been up against the real climbers yet... when you add F. Schleck and Gesink to the mix, he won't be the one doing the pacemaking.Buffalo Soldier said:
That was the weakest edition since ages, where it ended in a group sprint of 35.Buffalo Soldier said:
Which is what I mean with, not being able to follow when there are actual attacks...
Dekker_Tifosi said:
I find it hard to believe that Michael Boogerd would finish 2nd in a 35 man sprint... 2nd from last would be more like him.
A common misconception Moondance, Boogerd was not slow in a sprint, wether it was flat or uphill.
He usually just had the bad luck there was 1 guy faster or worse, one or more guys escaped and his rivals only reacted to him, not the other guys...
Just a recap of Boogerd in AGR for instance
1999: Beats Armstrong in the sprint
2000: 2nd behind Zabel in a group sprint on the FLAT of 20 men. With Bettini, Freire in that group!
2002: 3rd in a sprint with Bartoli and Ivanov, can't call that bad.
2003: Vinokourov wins solo, Boogerd WINS the sprint for 2nd place easily, but too late.
2004: Beaten by Rebellin in a 2-man sprint (doper wins)
2005: 40 man group sprint on Cauberg, only Di Luca can follow and passes him in the final 100m (doper wins)
2006: Fränk Schleck escapes and wins ahead of Wesemann. Boogerd WINS the sprint for 3rd place easily..
LBL
2003: Hamilton and Mayo stayed in front of him (2 dopers ofcourse!)
2004: Rebellin beats him in a 2-man sprint (repeat AGR)
2005: Vinokourov (doper) and Voigt stay ahead. Boogerd rides Bettini and Evans off his wheel on Saint Nicolas, closes 45 seconds in 5km...
2006: In the attack with Rodriguez in the last 20km. Looked like winning for a long time until the others came back on Saint Nicolas.
Even though this effort still finished 5th
Other notable sprints:
Zürich 2003: 2nd in the group sprint for third place behind Bettini, in front of Rebellin, group of 15
Lombardy 2004: Half a wheel 2nd behind Cunego in a 5 man sprint with Basso, Evans and Nardello
Many many Tirreno sprints, always one of the fastest, but nearly never the fastest. You'll see him ahead Freire, Bettini, Di Luca etc multiple times
Anyway I think my point is clear. Boogerd was not slow in a sprint. He usually had the bad luck that someone faster was there
He usually just had the bad luck there was 1 guy faster or worse, one or more guys escaped and his rivals only reacted to him, not the other guys...
Just a recap of Boogerd in AGR for instance
1999: Beats Armstrong in the sprint
2000: 2nd behind Zabel in a group sprint on the FLAT of 20 men. With Bettini, Freire in that group!
2002: 3rd in a sprint with Bartoli and Ivanov, can't call that bad.
2003: Vinokourov wins solo, Boogerd WINS the sprint for 2nd place easily, but too late.
2004: Beaten by Rebellin in a 2-man sprint (doper wins)
2005: 40 man group sprint on Cauberg, only Di Luca can follow and passes him in the final 100m (doper wins)
2006: Fränk Schleck escapes and wins ahead of Wesemann. Boogerd WINS the sprint for 3rd place easily..
LBL
2003: Hamilton and Mayo stayed in front of him (2 dopers ofcourse!)
2004: Rebellin beats him in a 2-man sprint (repeat AGR)
2005: Vinokourov (doper) and Voigt stay ahead. Boogerd rides Bettini and Evans off his wheel on Saint Nicolas, closes 45 seconds in 5km...
2006: In the attack with Rodriguez in the last 20km. Looked like winning for a long time until the others came back on Saint Nicolas.
Even though this effort still finished 5th
Other notable sprints:
Zürich 2003: 2nd in the group sprint for third place behind Bettini, in front of Rebellin, group of 15
Lombardy 2004: Half a wheel 2nd behind Cunego in a 5 man sprint with Basso, Evans and Nardello
Many many Tirreno sprints, always one of the fastest, but nearly never the fastest. You'll see him ahead Freire, Bettini, Di Luca etc multiple times
Anyway I think my point is clear. Boogerd was not slow in a sprint. He usually had the bad luck that someone faster was there
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