Cancellara should leave leopard trek

[auscyclefan94]

Cancellara should leave leopard trek. A big reason why he lost both classics and had to do the work by himself was because he had no helpers in both RVV and PR. Leopard trek were non existent. He had to do it all himself. Do you think he regrets leaving Bjarne? Should of he chosen a better team? Do you think he is already thinking about another team?

 

[luckyboy]

They should get some guys in.

 

[mulletCobra]

Cancellara should leave leopard trek. A big reason why he lost both classics and had to do the work by himself was because he had no helpers in both RVV and PR. Leopard trek were non existent. He had to do it all himself. Do you think he regrets leaving Bjarne? Should of he chosen a better team? Do you think he is already thinking about another team?

He chose LeOPArd--TREk because of the bond he had with the riders who left Saxo Bank. He knew the classics team wouldn't be that strong before he signed.

I think this is just your pitch for him to join BMC. I remember you basically busting a nut over the thought when it was decided he was leaving SB.

 

[Ryo Hazuki]

still I think cancellara underestimated that not having a strong team would cost him this much.

 

[spalco]

If they don't promise him a seriously stronger 1-day-team next year, maybe he should. He's probably well compensated for his efforts though.

 

[Havetts]

still I think cancellara underestimated that not having a strong team would cost him this much.

Kinda agree with this, probably thought after last year I can do this on my own. I solo'd 55 km's in PR, I can tackle the world. Hit him like a b*tch .

 

[sublimit]

As i mentioned somewhere else he had the chance to join Sky, or BMC and probably others where he would of had solid support. O' Grady is a great rider but time is catching up now and never really helped this time.

 

[roundabout]

He chose LeOPArd--TREk because of the bond he had with the riders who left Saxo Bank. He knew the classics team wouldn't be that strong before he signed.

I think this is just your pitch for him to join BMC. I remember you basically busting a nut over the thought when it was decided he was leaving SB.

Actually i think acf94 didn't want Cancellara at BMC last autumn as far as i remember.

I did though.

 

[auscyclefan94]

cancellara was on the back foot from arenberg onwards, he had two riders who fell away after chasing for a km and then had to rely on garmin chasing (which was odd) and himself attacking.

 

[Christian]

Sorry I just posted this in the other thread, not realizing this one existed:

Congrats to Van Summeren and Garmin, great ride today.

A strong team doesn't always pay off as we've seen with them in the past, and you can win big races without a strong team as Nuyens did. I don't know if this was all planned from the start but in this case Hushovd's wheel sucking served a greater cause and it all worked out. Chapeau for his ride as well, he must have been in great shape to always stick to Cancellara. It is not every day that a WC gives up his chances of winning the race he covets most - whether it was planned out this way we'll never know.

Cancellara proved again that he is a great champion and fought until the very end. He was the one who animated this race the most, and again gave very calm and well thought out statements immediately after the race. You can't win 'em all, but he has certainly been the strongest rider in this classics season once again.

Unfortunately his team failed to perform, which some said he could have foreseen. On paper he had strong support though: Klemme, O'Grady and Posthuma should have stayed with him longer, or else been in a break up ahead. They have all performed under their normal level, bar O'Grady who was great in MSR and E3. Other than that LEOPARD TREK had some bad fortune: Wagner out and replaced by a neo-pro, Weylandt battered and bruised, Klemme and Posthuma crashed. In these races, so much is down to luck and they just didn't have it this year, or maybe they weren't in top shape (like O'Grady today).

I'm pretty sure Cancellara will not be satisfied with their performance and request stronger support for next year. It'll be interesting to see whom they'll recruit, since Flavio Becca will most likely have no problem with spending an extra few bucks!

 

[Christian]

As i mentioned somewhere else he had the chance to join Sky, or BMC and probably others where he would of had solid support. O' Grady is a great rider but time is catching up now and never really helped this time.

O'Grady was great in MSR and E3, but he didn't seem to have it in Flanders and Roubaix. Still he has got to be one of the best and most experienced domestique and classics rider in the peloton.

As for Cancellara regretting to leave Bjarne - I don't think so, mainly because there seemed to be personal conflicts between the two towards the end. But it must be said that Riis once again succeeded in putting a rider in the right break - whether he had anything to do with it is a different question. IMO that was the main problem for LEOPARD TREK today, missing the crucial break.

It appears Klemme crashed before the Arenberg forrest, otherwise he might have been able to stay with Cancellara longer. He should have been in the break, then he could have either tried to play his own cards or help pull back Cancellara

 

[La Pandera]

Cancellara should leave leopard trek. A big reason why he lost both classics and had to do the work by himself was because he had no helpers in both RVV and PR. Leopard trek were non existent. He had to do it all himself. Do you think he regrets leaving Bjarne? Should of he chosen a better team? Do you think he is already thinking about another team?

If Nuyens can win RVV with just as little help and less talent then Cancellara should be able to win both especially considering how confident he is in his ability to simply ride the entire peloton off his wheel as if he's an "aeroplane".
When one talks themselves up and believes the hype of their own other worldly abilities, I would think that it gives his opponents and their team's extra motivation to work even harder to make the outcome less than a forgone conclusion.

With the talent having all bailed to Team Schleck why would he regret having done the same? I'm assuming that "better team" you're referring to is BMC. Maybe he can get out of his contract and jump ships.

I hope the entire week has been a humbling experience and a learning experience for him. His bailing on Riis and Saxo Bank while still under contract seems to have resulted in a bit of karmic justice. His season is technically a failure right now with only a win in WC ITT as his only saving grace. His two primary objectives have passed without him victorious.

Excuse me while I wipe away my tears.

 

[luckyboy]

Can't compare Nuyens' situation of being an outsider and winning to Cancellara's as the marked rider.

 

[Christian]

His season is technically a failure right now with only a win in WC ITT as his only saving grace.

Lol for one he won E3 and for another I'm sure he could care less about the Tirreno ITT. He's been the strongest rider in the monuments so far and he animated every single one of them - all that he was missing was the extra two cm's or in this case 19 seconds.

Also talking about karma ... this will win him the WC this year!

 

[roundabout]

Wait, so La Pandera is actually Patrick Lefevre.

Makes sense now.

 

[hfer07]

Let's see.....Cancellara alone against the army of "classics specialists" from BMC & Garmin.......and yet the worst place he got was 3rd.....hmmmm......

 

[La Pandera]

Lol for one he won E3 and for another I'm sure he could care less about the Tirreno ITT. He's been the strongest rider in the monuments so far and he animated every single one of them - all that he was missing was the extra two cm's or in this case 19 seconds.

Also talking about karma ... this will win him the WC this year!

...and yet he's failed to win 2 out of the 3 primary objectives of his season when everyone had him penciled in to win both RVV and PR. I never realized that not winning was such a positive for someone of his stature. Boonen certainly hasn't been given much positive press over the past 2 years for his inability to win the races that are his focus even if he's been strong in each, just not on the same level of ultimate performance of 2005-2009.

I think Tony Martin may have something to say about that if he continues his progression (WC ITT).

 

[la.margna]

well, it just shows what it all needs for a win. it's not that easy. and people will always remember wins only. so close in all three monuments this year, but not own one... nobody remembers in five years.

today, one man in the lead group to bridge the gap would have been sufficient, like Stuey in E3. but, would, should, could, ... who cares.

after a logistic catastrophe in Flanders, not getting water for kilometers resulting in cramps, Leopard was a zero with regard to any major support in Flanders and Roubaix. Superman isolated very early. Incredibly difficult.

 

[La Pandera]

Wait, so La Pandera is actually Patrick Lefevre.

Makes sense now.

Drat! I'm exposed. I thought the Spanish forum name and avatar would be cover enough.

 

[Christian]

...and yet he's failed to win 2 out of the 3 primary objectives of his season when everyone had him penciled in to win both RVV and PR. I never realized that not winning was such a positive for someone of his stature. Boonen certainly hasn't been given much positive press over the past 2 years for his inability to win the races that are his focus even if he's been strong in each, just not on the same level of ultimate performance of 2005-2009.

I think Tony Martin may have something to say about that if he continues his progression (WC ITT).

He didn't win but he tried everything and there is little that he could have done differently (except mayb the hunger knock at RVF but still it would have been difficult to hold off BMC) so he has no regrets and a podium in every monument can hardly be seen as a failure, even "for someone of his stature". As I've said before, you can't win 'em all and if you're not prepared to lose then don't enter a race. Also I fail to see your point about Boonen and his bad press - just because he got bad press that means he failed?

As for WC I was not talking ITT but RR baby

 

[Christian]

after a logistic catastrophe in Flanders, not getting water for kilometers resulting in cramps

I believe there were other reasons for the cramps than that

 

[La Pandera]

He didn't win but he tried everything and there is little that he could have done differently (except mayb the hunger knock at RVF but still it would have been difficult to hold off BMC) so he has no regrets and a podium in every monument can hardly be seen as a failure, even "for someone of his stature". As I've said before, you can't win 'em all and if you're not prepared to lose then don't enter a race. Also I fail to see your point about Boonen and his bad press - just because he got bad press that means he failed?

As for WC I was not talking ITT but RR baby

Boonen had been looked at as declining in his abilities and failing to meet his goals/objectives recently by the media and some here on the forums. I'm not attempting to minimize Cancellara's results in the past week anymore than he was trying to do the same with his statements regarding Nuyens and his RVV win. Your statement of "not being prepared to lose then don't race" is odd considering Cancellara's inability to accept losing to Nuyens. Of course his statements and intent were taken out of context and lost in translation.

 

[Ryaguas]

Well... I had big laughs today...

MASSIVE Karma knocking at the c0cky c0ck's door in this week... too much hyping himself, talking trash, etc, etc... to what? to be the 2nd loser in RVV and the 1st loser in PR??? HA! suck it! He could have animated the race whatever He wants but the main goal was to win it! If He is not the winner then He failed! and BIG TIME...

Humility!
Repeat after me you pr!ck!
Humility Canc...
Humility...
You can hit everybody in your way up but They will strike you hard in your way down...

------------------- After releasing the Hate...

Leotard-sheet has a good team for the classics... OFC is not a BMC but is good... He wont leave... next year They'll have a better and more prepared team....

 

[Christian]

I might refer you two gentlemen to this:

“I knew it was going to be difficult for me to win,” noted Cancellara. “I knew everybody would be watching me, and I knew I would need to attack to win. I knew there really was no other way. I understand the tactics of Ballan and Hushovd, and I respect them”

“I only have two legs,” said Cancellara. “I did the maximum I could. I couldn’t do anything more. The winner here today is beautiful. He wasn’t someone expected. He maybe woke up this morning thinking I’m going to ride for my team. I’m going to help, and he won the race. I’m very happy for him.”

“To win is nice, but second place is also good. More than that would not have been possible today,” Cancellara said. “Later going or earlier going -- I couldn’t change the situation of the race. In the end, being on the podium of Paris-Roubaix is not bad. Favorites can not always win. I’m proud of my efforts. I know my team worked very hard. They do a great deal to contribute to my success.”

http://www.leopardtrek.lu/news/fabian-cancellara-second-paris-roubaix

What a disposable feminine hygene product and the bag that it comes in

 

[Benotti69]

Cancellara's biggest mistake was last year racing away and hammering everybody by so much and making it look so easy that this year no one else is going to work with him and everyone will ride against him. His celebrations last year to the camera on his way to the line must have píssed off riders, smiling and showing his lucky charm etc...so what does he expect this year?????

He could have won this years race. But threw a hissy fit. He should've caught the front group and then dropped them all on the cobbles like last year. He must not have the form of last year and felt he couldn't do that but todays 2nd place to me shows he could've.