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Caruso positive for epo in 2012
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If you are thinking about that "team I'm clean club", the answer is no. It doesn't apply to grand tours. As for another upcoming WT race, that depends. If he wants the B sample analyzed then there won't be a suspension until that is done.
Also something to think about is that this happened IIRC before Katusha joined the "Team I'm clean club", and is not from anything recent. So I would be surprised if Katusha is supposed to withdraw from a race.
Also something to think about is that this happened IIRC before Katusha joined the "Team I'm clean club", and is not from anything recent. So I would be surprised if Katusha is supposed to withdraw from a race.
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Doesn't have anything to do with mpcc. You forgot the new UCI regulation: "The UCI introduced the provision for a team suspension on January 1 of this year with article 7.12.1 of its Anti-Doping Rules."
Here are the rules. See page 30.
http://www.uci.ch/mm/Document/News/...t14-FINALversionenligne29.05.2015_English.pdf
2 notifications of positives in 12 months means 15-45 days suspension. So doesn't matter if this happened 3 years ago.
Here are the rules. See page 30.
http://www.uci.ch/mm/Document/News/...t14-FINALversionenligne29.05.2015_English.pdf
2 notifications of positives in 12 months means 15-45 days suspension. So doesn't matter if this happened 3 years ago.
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The apart with an asterix could mean that he was just "unlucky" to have a new detection method tested.
irondan said:
The apart with an asterix could mean that he was just "unlucky" to have a new detection method tested.
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Who already tested positive once in his career and survived Puerto (although maybe CAS had good reasons to clear him)
classicomano said:
Who already tested positive once in his career and survived Puerto (although maybe CAS had good reasons to clear him)
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Retesting because of wonky looking blood profile I presume, same reason TD got busted.irondan said:
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The most obvious example of this is 2008 Popovych, who was going very well early in the season, before sucking out loud for the rest of the year after Volodymyr Bileka, the Kash to his Vino, the Ukrainian buddy who'd followed him to Landbouwkrediet, to Discovery and then to Lotto, was busted. Once reunited with Bruyneel, Popo felt safe again and went back to being a strong domestique.
Maybe he got a scare cos he was tested when he thought he was glowing, dosed small (he was garbage at País Vasco and Romandie which date not long after the positive) or something, then stepped back up once he thought he was in the clear.Eyeballs Out said:2012 was the worst season of his career. Clearly rides faster clean - just like so many others
The most obvious example of this is 2008 Popovych, who was going very well early in the season, before sucking out loud for the rest of the year after Volodymyr Bileka, the Kash to his Vino, the Ukrainian buddy who'd followed him to Landbouwkrediet, to Discovery and then to Lotto, was busted. Once reunited with Bruyneel, Popo felt safe again and went back to being a strong domestique.
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Aha, thanks! There seems to be a lot of judgment and leeway for the UCI involved. It would surprised me if there was a suspension.
Am I right in remembering only Paolini being popped the last 12 months? Coke and a past epo positive doesn't sound so bad as compared to 2 recent Epo positives.
It will be interesting to see if this is just a first of many positives.
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Aha, thanks! There seems to be a lot of judgment and leeway for the UCI involved. It would surprised me if there was a suspension.
Am I right in remembering only Paolini being popped the last 12 months? Coke and a past epo positive doesn't sound so bad as compared to 2 recent Epo positives.
It will be interesting to see if this is just a first of many positives.
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Katusha will not be suspended for La Vuelta.
- Both Paolini and Caruso still have their right to call a B-sample. They will, and it will take some time.
- Paolini was cocaine, so still questionable and not as clear as EPO.
- The UCI will not suspend a team 4 days before the start of a GT, without the B-samples etc.
It takes more time. If the team will be suspended, it will be after the Vuelta.
- Both Paolini and Caruso still have their right to call a B-sample. They will, and it will take some time.
- Paolini was cocaine, so still questionable and not as clear as EPO.
- The UCI will not suspend a team 4 days before the start of a GT, without the B-samples etc.
It takes more time. If the team will be suspended, it will be after the Vuelta.
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The Inner Ring has a good take on this issue of team suspension:
http://inrng.com/2015/08/taking-one-for-the-team/
The rule sounds good on paper, but has some major flaws.
It's a talk tough rule with consequences that could make the doping problem worse.
http://inrng.com/2015/08/taking-one-for-the-team/
The rule sounds good on paper, but has some major flaws.
It's a talk tough rule with consequences that could make the doping problem worse.
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However while Katusha’s two cases have been announced within several weeks of each other, the UCI has told CyclingTips that this would not count as two positives under the regulation because Caruso’s test dates back to 2012.
As a result, it means that Katusha is not facing a potential suspension.
The team has responded to the news with a brief statement. It said it was notified of the finding by the UCI and, as per UCI regulations, he had been provisionally suspended.
“Bearing in mind the anti-doping regulations, the team will wait until the analysis of the B sample has been conducted before taking any further action or making further comment.
“However, Team Katusha would like to underline that this news comes as a complete shock.”
As a result, it means that Katusha is not facing a potential suspension.
The team has responded to the news with a brief statement. It said it was notified of the finding by the UCI and, as per UCI regulations, he had been provisionally suspended.
“Bearing in mind the anti-doping regulations, the team will wait until the analysis of the B sample has been conducted before taking any further action or making further comment.
“However, Team Katusha would like to underline that this news comes as a complete shock.”
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Impeccable timing again?
Astana's Lars Boom - low cortisol level just before TdF
Katusha's G-P Caruso popped retroactively just before LaVuelta
conspiracy theories anyone?
Astana's Lars Boom - low cortisol level just before TdF
Katusha's G-P Caruso popped retroactively just before LaVuelta
conspiracy theories anyone?
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