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Teams & Riders Chris Froome Discussion Thread.

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Is Froome over the hill?

  • Yes.

    Votes: 28 35.4%
  • No, the GC finished 40 minutes ago but Froomie is still climbing it

    Votes: 45 57.0%
  • No he is totally winning the Vuelta

    Votes: 18 22.8%

  • Total voters
    79
Froome won’t be co leader, that’s for Woods and Fuglsang , and Nizzolo rides in the Giro, so his train and himself won’t be riding in France.
Thanks for the info,,,But I am not sure him and his train cant be at le Tour as well. If Froome goes, I hope no.

If Froome is clearly the stronger of the team in June he wont be coleader, I am agree, he will be the leader of the team in July. That is not very likely...

If he is at a similar level , or even a little behind, he will be coleader. That is something we dont know today, but it is, of course, today a possibility....Froome has improved from his first races and is expected to improme more, so it is a plausible posibility. If he is close to the level of Fulgsang or Woods in June he is not going to work from the begining for them...the race will say who has to work
 
I am not sure hge was doing his best when he had not the motivation for GC or thge stage...He was just in thios race to help. But I thinbk he more or lees did his best witout that motivation, but the motivation he knows perfectly that climb as he lived in Aigle when was selectiones by UCI for his team .

But wwhy to thibnk Fuglsang didnt do his best when he was in a good position at GC ? The same for other good names he beated.

But anuway, he was 3 and a half minutes from the winner in a hard climb like this, so is not much time. Lot to improve, but he is in progression. If he could go on this progression till Dauohine, he could be there for a top ten level if he is co lider for GC, If he has to work, of course, top 50 is difficult.

With the level Froome has today he is far to go to le Tour. If he goes is not to be a top 50. He is or to be coleader, or to work for other riders, and in that case it doent mind if he finish 60 ir 120 at GC. But his team has lot of good riders to help otr to figh ofor stages or stay in breaks, so it would be difficul.. and now they have Nizzolo, so they will want to have maybe Einhorn, Zabel...Neilants..to make his train..so difficult to be at le Tour...just in case he showed a level similar for a GC than Woods or Fulgsang. He has the endurance for 3 weeks and he is better with hot weather..so le Tour is the race that more fit him..the problem is cobbles,...much better for Fulgsang.

But in the case le Tour is not a posibility, other races could be a good option as well. But I think he can get the level to figh for a good GC position al le Tour, at least a top ten..and I think he is the only rider of his team that is able to do that now.
As the British say, you are having a laugh.
 
In the next one/two months, we will definately see what level froome can achieve until the end of his career. If in the next month he improves like he improved from coppi bartali to romandie, it would be a great jump in his shape, and could be some hope that he can be competitive again.
If he don´t improve in the next month, we can conclude like il maestro said, that, this is his best shape, and unfortunately he will never be competitive again.
 
I'm not sure he can do any better than what he did in this past days. But it's good to see him improving a little bit. Like last year he got better towards the Tour and then crashed hard the opening stage. He got a lot better since Coppi Bartali

We need to see how Froome copes with a full gas stage race.

The problem analysing performances in the midrange pack of the peloton in races like Romandie is the fact we just don't know how many other riders were actually pushing once they'd done their domestique work (or failed to get into a breakaway).

It's always the same story. In Froome's case, he always got dropped as soon as the peloton seriously accelerated towards the business end of a stage. But due to his condition & attempts to find form, I'm more inclined to believe he pushed a little harder than some others around him - even in the final TT.
 
We need to see how Froome copes with a full gas stage race.

The problem analysing performances in the midrange pack of the peloton in races like Romandie is the fact we just don't know how many other riders were actually pushing once they'd done their domestique work (or failed to get into a breakaway).

It's always the same story. In Froome's case, he always got dropped as soon as the peloton seriously accelerated towards the business end of a stage. But due to his condition & attempts to find form, I'm more inclined to believe he pushed a little harder than some others around him - even in the final TT.
He’s absolutely trying to show his form is increasing like he keeps posting. Like how TMJ said Froome was trying as hard as he could to rejoin the peloton after being dropped for kilometers. He has zero reason to not try as well as he can. The only rider that was surprising he tied with was Almedia who had nothing to ride for and no, Fugslang was not in a good GC position sitting at 25th over a minute back who has never been one to look out for in time trials. We’re literally having a laugh. The one good thing is it was a climb. We will see in CdD if he tries going in any breakaways.
 

Though Contador also said the three he thinks fighting for the podium would be Almedia, Carapaz, and MVDP.

But Contador believes another name could be in contention for victory: Mathieu van der Poel (Alpecin-Fenix). The Dutchman is famed for his explosive one-day prowess but is yet to finish a Grand Tour.
“It's always a game of chance,” said Contador.
“But I think Joao Almeida, Richard Carapaz and I think Mathieu Van der Poel will be in contention for the top three places in the standings, although I don't know the order but I think the three of them have a little bit more chance than the rest.”


He is feeling good and he is going to ride Tour and Vuelta.

“That’s my aim this year, to build up, try to get to the Tour in the best shape possible and then potentially look at the Vuelta, depending on how things are going. It’s one step at a time, and there are a lot of steps to go before I’m in Tour de France racing shape again. It’s about taking it one week at a time.”

Yes, he was trying in the final TT.

“For me today was about going through the motions. Obviously I’m not in the race going for a result or fighting for the GC but it’s about having that refresh of getting up, doing the recon and approaching it like I was going for GC with the hope that things continue to improve as they have done for the last couple of months,” he told VeloNews.
 
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Though Contador also said the three he thinks fighting for the podium would be Almedia, Carapaz, and MVDP.

But Contador believes another name could be in contention for victory: Mathieu van der Poel (Alpecin-Fenix). The Dutchman is famed for his explosive one-day prowess but is yet to finish a Grand Tour.
“It's always a game of chance,” said Contador.
“But I think Joao Almeida, Richard Carapaz and I think Mathieu Van der Poel will be in contention for the top three places in the standings, although I don't know the order but I think the three of them have a little bit more chance than the rest.”

Kinda off-topic, but I hope he is speaking about the first-stage and not the final Giro podium.
 

Though Contador also said the three he thinks fighting for the podium would be Almedia, Carapaz, and MVDP.

But Contador believes another name could be in contention for victory: Mathieu van der Poel (Alpecin-Fenix). The Dutchman is famed for his explosive one-day prowess but is yet to finish a Grand Tour.
“It's always a game of chance,” said Contador.
“But I think Joao Almeida, Richard Carapaz and I think Mathieu Van der Poel will be in contention for the top three places in the standings, although I don't know the order but I think the three of them have a little bit more chance than the rest.”




“That’s my aim this year, to build up, try to get to the Tour in the best shape possible and then potentially look at the Vuelta, depending on how things are going. It’s one step at a time, and there are a lot of steps to go before I’m in Tour de France racing shape again. It’s about taking it one week at a time.”

Yes, he was trying in the final TT.

“For me today was about going through the motions. Obviously I’m not in the race going for a result or fighting for the GC but it’s about having that refresh of getting up, doing the recon and approaching it like I was going for GC with the hope that things continue to improve as they have done for the last couple of months,” he told VeloNews.
Of courrse he was trying in the final TT. He did a good time...if he finish 3 and a half minutes of the winner in a TT like this, without giving everything, he is in a quite good shape already. It is his best ITT since he crashed...but it was a had clinb, so it not possible to compare to the others...He has to woprk a lot in his position. It was never very good, but better than today.
 
I am not sure hge was doing his best when he had not the motivation for GC or thge stage...He was just in thios race to help. But I thinbk he more or lees did his best witout that motivation, but the motivation he knows perfectly that climb as he lived in Aigle when was selectiones by UCI for his team .

But wwhy to thibnk Fuglsang didnt do his best when he was in a good position at GC ? The same for other good names he beated.
Of courrse he was trying in the final TT. He did a good time...if he finish 3 and a half minutes of the winner in a TT like this, without giving everything, he is in a quite good shape already. It is his best ITT since he crashed...but it was a had clinb, so it not possible to compare to the others...He has to woprk a lot in his position. It was never very good, but better than today.
Was he trying or was he not trying?
 
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You just have to llok at his face at the end of the TT...Of cpouse there is an extra motivation if you are to win something, but he was giving everything. But, morre than the half of the riders did,and the other, close, other way you go out of time.
So of the people trying, he came in about last. Sounds about right. For those "not trying" I'm not sure "close" is how I'd describe it. Soft-pedaling is an art, but there's PLENTY of leeway between full effort and getting eliminated. Clearly many riders soft-pedaled this TT looking at the results.
 
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