Teams & Riders Chris Froome Discussion Thread.

[airstream]

Beat Alberto Contador one of the worst sprinters in the peloton. And Jrod who obviously didn't have it because he got beaten by Alberto Contador one of the worst sprinters in the peloton.

I disagree. There are a lot of rolleurs, time trialists and quite good climbers who doesn't have a kick at all. Contador sprints passably

 

[spalco]

Another thing that I think will go against Froome is the style of racing of one days. In a GT different people have different goals and a lot of racing GT's is about conserving energy for the days ahead. One days though, it's all out. Much more attacks, much different tactics, and much harder then a single stage of a GT. Froomes team isn't going to be able to control it all day and drop most everyone else by the end as easily as they do in GT's.

I don't think the fact that it's "harder" is the issue here for Froome, but maybe his relative inexperience in which breaks to follow and things like that.

 

[Bushman]

We are not looking into the situation of mass sprint. Froome sprints well from the small group which is the main thing.

But when has he ever sprinted well in a small group on the flat?

 

[LaFlorecita]

I disagree. There are a lot of rolleurs, time trialists and quite good climbers who doesn't have a kick at all. Contador sprints passably

BS. Contador is a horrible sprinter so it is not impressive at all that Froome beat him.

 

[Bushman]

The thing is, I don't think you can uphill sprints (e.g. La planche des belles filles) as an indication for Froome's sprint because he only won because he was superior whenever the road turned uphill, not because he is an amazing sprinter.

And BTW if he really is as explosive as you indicate, why was he beaten by Contador and Mollema in the Chieti stage in Tirreno? He was clearly in very good shape judging by the Prati di Tivo stage.

 

[Netserk]

There's a great difference between being explosive on a climb and being able to sprint on the flat.

Ex: Contador.

 

[airstream]

BS. Contador is a horrible sprinter so it is not impressive at all that Froome beat him.

You don't understand anything about cycling.

Lol base on what do you offer to rate their sprinter qualities if they almost never practise them because of their specialization? Base on your expert 'BS. Contador is a...'?!

 

[Pentacycle]

You don't understand anything about cycling.

Not very nice to say that, it smashes up the discussion. I hope you don't claim to be omniscient?

 

[airstream]

Not very nice to say that, it smashes up the discussion. I hope you don't claim to be omniscient?

с'mon. Read me for 1st time? Obvious friendly pin. -) But I know a little bit. I hope)

 

[wwabbit]

And BTW if he really is as explosive as you indicate, why was he beaten by Contador and Mollema in the Chieti stage in Tirreno? He was clearly in very good shape judging by the Prati di Tivo stage.

The last km of that stage was flat. Froome burnt himself pulling the chase group to put time into Kwaitkowski and Nibali who were dropped in that final climb, and left nothing for the sprint.

 

[wwabbit]

BS. Contador is a horrible sprinter so it is not impressive at all that Froome beat him.

I thought it was quite impressive, considering Froome spent the entire final km with his nose in the wind whereas Contador spent most of the final km in Purito's slipstream.

 

[JRanton]

Froome abandoned today after one lap reportedly due to chest problems. Has the Bilharzia returned?

 

[MatParker117]

Froome abandoned today after one lap reportedly due to chest problems. Has the Bilharzia returned?

Altitude sickness?

 

[murali]

is it actual chest infection, or was he just abandoning the race for the sake of abandoning?

he would have already got the appearance money by now?

 

[trevim]

I would have prefered to see him out of the Tour and winning Colorado but well...

 

[movingtarget]

I don't think the fact that it's "harder" is the issue here for Froome, but maybe his relative inexperience in which breaks to follow and things like that.

It's a totally different style of racing. You only have to look at Sky's failure in the classics this year compared to their dominant displays in some of the stage races. It's much harder to control things in a classic or one day race and it's a lot more tactical. Also I don't really see the GB team being that strong compared to Spain, Belgium, Italy and a few others.

 

[Carols]

Taken from someones quote of him:
Originally Posted by airstream View Post
You don't understand anything about cycling


Says the guy who asks what a stem is?????

Froome is just waiting for worlds, going fishing in CO now with lil Richie.

 

[Afrank]

I don't think the fact that it's "harder" is the issue here for Froome, but maybe his relative inexperience in which breaks to follow and things like that.

It's not as much that it's just harder but the style of racing that hardness will come in. It will be much more un-predictable, Froome works well when things are controlled. It's going to be a difficult race to control as movingtarget pointed out.

 

[LaFlorecita]

You don't understand anything about cycling.

Lol base on what do you offer to rate their sprinter qualities if they almost never practise them because of their specialization? Base on your expert 'BS. Contador is a...'?!

I offer to rate sprinter qualities on their performances in flat sprints, not on their explosiveness uphill as you try to do with Contador. Froome is obviously a better sprinter than Contador, see Oman, but that doesn't make him a good sprinter.

 

[LaFlorecita]

I thought it was quite impressive, considering Froome spent the entire final km with his nose in the wind whereas Contador spent most of the final km in Purito's slipstream.

I thought it was quite impressive that Contador came so close, I thought he would come 3rd miles back. Say whatever you want beating Contador in a sprint is not impressive, Purito, yes that is impressive, but it was clear he didn't have it.

 

[spalco]

Well, do we now think a non-climber might win the WC? Obviously if Cancellara, Gilbert or Sagan makes it on the front down the last hill it's game over for Froome, but against Rodriguez, Valverde, Nibali?

 

[Netserk]

Well, do we now think a non-climber might win the WC? Obviously if Cancellara, Gilbert or Sagan makes it on the front down the last hill it's game over for Froome, but against Rodriguez, Valverde, Nibali?

Then Froome won't have a chance. The same if he was against Costa, Uran or Ulissi.

 

[airstream]

Then Froome won't have a chance. The same if he was against Costa, Uran or Ulissi.

Excessive optimism is the way of minimal resistance.

 

[Netserk]

Excessive optimism is the way of minimal resistance.

Do you really believe that Froome would be able to beat Valverde, Costa, Uran or Ulissi in a flat sprint?

 

[airstream]

Do you really believe that Froome would be able to beat Valverde, Costa, Uran or Ulissi in a flat sprint?

I rate his chances highly.