Teams & Riders Chris Froome Discussion Thread.

Page 86 - Get up to date with the latest news, scores & standings from the Cycling News Community.
Toggle sidebar Toggle sidebar

Is Froome over the hill?

  • Yes.

    Votes: 42 34.4%

  • No, the GC finished 40 minutes ago but Froomie is still climbing it

    Votes: 65 53.3%

  • No he is totally winning the Vuelta

    Votes: 28 23.0%
  • Total voters
    122
V

Vino attacks everyone

May 5, 2011
7,621
288
17,880
Dekker_Tifosi said:
Well, Nibali couldn't keep up with some random old man in the Vuelta. What makes you think he can battle Froome?
If it had a Giro like course maybe.. but the Tour is softy.. and in the high mountains and ITT Froome is better..so.. unless Nibali makes some miracle on the cobbles it aint going to happen
Click to expand...

they were quite clear about Nibalis form at the Vuelta though (atleast 0.3 w/kg under what he could produce in the giro in the mountains). + Horners form in the Vuelta would have given him a fair shot against Froome in the Vuelta parcours :rolleyes:

But yea. I do put my faith in some improvements also this year in the mountains + time gained at some random stage.
 
Dekker_Tifosi

Dekker_Tifosi

Mar 13, 2009
29,413
3,482
28,180
Vino attacks everyone said:
they were quite clear about Nibalis form at the Vuelta though (atleast 0.3 w/kg under what he could produce in the giro in the mountains). + Horners form in the Vuelta would have given him a fair shot against Froome in the Vuelta parcours :rolleyes:

But yea. I do put my faith in some improvements also this year in the mountains + time gained at some random stage.
Click to expand...

Seriously Nibali is great but apart from Quintana I cannot see anyone keeping up with him in the mountains and in the ITT Nibali's just going to get crushed. He'll be a good 2nd.. that's all
 
The Hitch

The Hitch

Jun 14, 2010
34,930
60
22,580
jens_attacks said:
i would say froomey is stronger than in 2012 but not by much
nibali on the other hand, is much stronger
it will be quite the battle this july.vino and vincenzo never give up
Click to expand...

You know I love you jens, but what is this based on? If you look at results Nibali 2012 was just as good as 2013. People just kept looking at him with 2011 glasses and trying to justify weak fields bla bla bla.

Tirrno for example the 2 people he beat - Horner and Roman, it was understandable that we all thought back then that he was beating 2 average gc riders on the decline who overperformed to even podium.

But if we revisit that now neither of those riders was anywhere close to actually declining, and they are both currently gt podium contenders who he destroyed easily.

Similarly the TDF, a lot of people were expressing their anger at Sky by trying to claim Froome and Wiggins lucked out and it was no competition bla bla bla. But looking at Froome this year and at the times - on your own website, they were going as fast as anyone has at the TDF in a decade.Being clearly the 3rd best rider in that race was mighty impressive. Nibali 2013 certainly could not have challenged Froome either. Its exactly where he would have finished.

Other than that he also performed in the classics that year. 3rd MSR. Strongest rider and 2nd in Liege.

Nibali clearly improved massively. People were just looking at him with 2011 glasses - the guy who had not won a single race all year and faded in the mountains in both the Giro and the Vuelta. The jump was 2011- 2012, or rather it was a lapse from 2010-11 and then a jump back + more in 2012. 2013 was pretty much the same.
 
A

arvc40

Jul 1, 2013
1,952
0
0
Contador V Froome V2 !. Nibali will get hammered. Contador will be much improved. Now or never for Contador .
 
The Hitch

The Hitch

Jun 14, 2010
34,930
60
22,580
LaFlorecita said:
I think Contador will be Froome's main opponent but Nibali will finish closer on GC.... does that make sense :eek:
Click to expand...

I think the idea that Contador doesn't care about a high gc place took a massive hit this year. He threw everything he had and everything the team had at protecting his high gc place.
 
the sceptic

the sceptic

Jul 21, 2012
9,860
3
0
Froome has only one rival and that is the french police.

No one will drop him in the mountains and he will take 3 minutes in the ITT.

If Contador gets back to his absolute peak he might be able to hang in the mountains but will still get destroyed in the ITT.
 
V

Vino attacks everyone

May 5, 2011
7,621
288
17,880
the sceptic said:
Froome has only one rival and that is the french police.

No one will drop him in the mountains and he will take 3 minutes in the ITT.

If Contador gets back to his absolute peak he might be able to hang in the mountains but will still get destroyed in the ITT.
Click to expand...

Contador at his absolute peak (tour 09) was the worlds best tter, so I doubt he would get destroyed :p
 
Afrank

Afrank

Aug 16, 2011
10,819
2
0
LaFlorecita said:
I think Contador will be Froome's main opponent but Nibali will finish closer on GC.... does that make sense :eek:
Click to expand...

Contador manages to get back to his attacking like crazy ways and becomes just a general pain in the a$$ for Froome. Nibali plays a smarter more conservative race though and manages to hold on longer in the mountains, plus maybe lose less time in the TT's. Yeah, makes sense.

I'll be hoping to see both Contador and Nibali at their best attacking Froome like crazy until he finally cracks and they both end up higher on GC. Unrealistic? Maybe, but one can dream. :D
 
Netserk

Netserk

Apr 30, 2011
47,068
29,667
28,180
Dekker_Tifosi said:
Seriously Nibali is great but apart from Quintana I cannot see anyone keeping up with him in the mountains and in the ITT Nibali's just going to get crushed. He'll be a good 2nd.. that's all
Click to expand...

I see you toned down your anti-Nibalism... A little.

Still remember how you in 2011 were certain he wouldn't top-5 the Tour the following year ;) :p
 
LaFlorecita

LaFlorecita

May 15, 2011
45,171
617
24,680
Vino attacks everyone said:
fine, point was that he wouldn't be crushed by Froome if he was at his peak form :p;)
Click to expand...

But he would be. The TT is completely flat, longer and Contador won't be able to draft this time because Froome will be in yellow. Cancellara in 2009 would've comfortably beaten him if the above had been the case. I can't see why Froome wouldn't.

My point is that unless Froome crashes nobody will be able to beat him except maybe Quintana who won't be there and most likely would've gotten crushed in the TT anyway.
 
Carols

Carols

Mar 20, 2010
13,132
3,335
28,180
Let's wait and see the contenders form this season. Granted Froome looked Formidable last year. That is no guarantee he will this year! We need to wait and see before assuming he will just cruise for a win :) Oman is next week, it will tell us so much more than speculating.
 
E

EnacheV

BANNED
Jul 7, 2013
1,441
0
0
2014021810_OMAN%20ETAPE%201_1.jpg


few bikes back on the bunch sprint, the day when he wins over greipel is not far away :D

anyway, seems he is not lazy or self-suficient this first race of the season, which means that a Wiggo 2013 style season is not likely.
 
E

EnacheV

BANNED
Jul 7, 2013
1,441
0
0
jens_attacks said:
who are you talking about EnacheV?

wiggo messed up your mind if you thought that's him :p
Click to expand...

Froome is on the 3rd or 4th row on the right side :D

Wiggo style is the **** year after the big year, which i hope Froome doesn't have.
 
You must log in or register to reply here.

TRENDING THREADS

Latest posts

Moderators online

Share this page

COMPANY
RESOURCES
FOLLOW
Top Bottom