Teams & Riders Chris Froome Discussion Thread.

[TourOfSardinia]

Lol the British press:
http://www.theguardian.com/sport/2015/jun/12/vincenzo-nibali-leads-criterium-du-dauphine
Not much love shown there for CF
First they talk up Yates over Froome.
Second they focus on his sleeping.

 

[Rollthedice]

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Lol the British press:
http://www.theguardian.com/sport/2015/jun/12/vincenzo-nibali-leads-criterium-du-dauphine
Not much love shown there for CF
First they talk up Yates over Froome.
Second they focus on his sleeping.

You can sleep and dream on the motorhome bed about winning Le Tour. Reality check in the morning, in the peloton.

 

[SeriousSam]

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Lol the British press:
http://www.theguardian.com/sport/2015/jun/12/vincenzo-nibali-leads-criterium-du-dauphine
Not much love shown there for CF
First they talk up Yates over Froome.
Second they focus on his sleeping.

Kenyans, Scots and Somalis just aren't very English, except when they are winning

 

[Taxus4a]

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Lol the British press:
http://www.theguardian.com/sport/2015/jun/12/vincenzo-nibali-leads-criterium-du-dauphine
Not much love shown there for CF
First they talk up Yates over Froome.
Second they focus on his sleeping.

It is an objetive article... It is not the same here in Spain always. Yesterday Yates deserved better comments than Froomey.

Froome maybe is not the favourite for press Britain, but he is the best and that is the importat for him. For Yates is good to be out of Britain and SKY, too much presure for them.

About motorhome, could be an advantage, but I dont like that kind of things, becouse press and some fans can use against. I would prefer more tactics and intuition on the road than all that maybe good, but extravagant things around SKY.

More study routes, weakness of the rivals, and then chose a plan and play to cyclist that all that stuff...

SKY showed that in this era you can performe very well wihout things of the past, and showed everybody the importance of tecnology, profesionals around, small details, that werent taking enought intio consideration in cycling... and that was important for cycling, and of course, unfortunately, what important money is.

But the spirit of cycling is to have that intuition, the inteligent, the courage that Nibali showed yesterday, for that reason it is not easy for me to have a big sympathy for SKY, although I admit the big quality of lot of his riders.

For Froome, if today is not raining (or just a little) we will see if he is similar than last year or in a worse shape..althoug the stage is short and he has almost imposible GC.. not just for yesterday breakaway, byt for TVG and maybe Intxausti if he doesnt fade away becouse the Giro...

 

[b.broadhurst]

After Brailsford's comments today it seems Sky are going climbing nuts in the Tour.

Froome Porte Konig Henao Roche Poels Thomas Kennaugh Rowe/Stannard

 

[Taxus4a]

After Brailsford's comments today it seems Sky are going climbing nuts in the Tour.

Froome Porte Konig Henao Roche Poels Thomas Kennaugh Rowe/Stannard

Impressive team for climbing, but as well for TT.

 

[SeriousSam]

Brilliant ride. What a pity his team let him down in the TTT

 

[harryh]

froome is done for physically. sky's over the top training methods have killed him as predicted by saxo trainer few years back. same happened to number of youngsters. only since this year have they stopped their rigurous camps and it's showing with youngsters at least like boswell and I expected a strong sebastian henao in suisse.

lol

 

[MatParker117]

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Brilliant ride. What a pity his team let him down in the TTT

Not over yet Cat 1 summit finish tomorrow.

 

[SeriousSam]

Ryo has an unparalleled ability to be wrong. There are strong contenders posting in some of the threads here, but he is unchallenged at the top

 

[argyllflyer]

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Ryo has an unparalleled ability to be wrong. There are strong contenders posting in some of the threads here, but he is unchallenged at the top

The 'Froome's Career Is Dead' post was comedy gold.

 

[Walkman]

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Ryo has an unparalleled ability to be wrong. There are strong contenders posting in some of the threads here, but he is unchallenged at the top

HAHAHAHAHAHA


IRL LOL!

 

[SeriousSam]

The markets react. Froome reclaims favourite status for the Tour, just before Quintana. Nibali and Contador some distance back. Everyone ele astronomically unlikely to win.

 

[Richeypen]

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Ryo has an unparalleled ability to be wrong. There are strong contenders posting in some of the threads here, but he is unchallenged at the top

Quoted for truth!

 

[BYOP88]

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The markets react. Froome reclaims favourite status for the Tour, just before Quintana. Nibali and Contador some distance back. Everyone ele astronomically unlikely to win.

Well if he can finish the cobble stage and it's warm and dry for 21 days he has a chance.

 

[buchanan]

Froome and Quintana must be huge favourites over anyone else.

 

[TMP402]

I don't know the history everyone has with Ryo, but what does one dominant stage win do to contradict the idea he is physically declining? Nibali, Valverde and Costa were all in the attack yesterday and were predictably tired, as well as Nibali doing his thing of refusing to put in any big effort lest his Tour peak suffer. As for Froome beating TJVG by 10 or so seconds - couldn't a declining Froome still be capable of this? Frankly even if Froome wins a second Tour, but declines to merely a contender next year and from then on, Ryo might not have been "wrong".

 

[Taxus4a]

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The markets react. Froome reclaims favourite status for the Tour, just before Quintana. Nibali and Contador some distance back. Everyone ele astronomically unlikely to win.

They are the big favourites, but Purito, Pinot and Tejay are close.

Even if Uran is well placed after TTT and the team bet for him coud be his moment to show his potential.

Lot of things depends on luck, weather, circunstances... it is difficult to say after to see how are teams just before TTT.

One could be a favourite and to be very strong at the start, but if your team lose 2 riders before TTT you have no options.

People as Landa didnt count really before Giro start. GT are always like this.

Even Porte could win this Tour if Froome has a crash the first days.

 

[SeriousSam]

Froome may indeed be declining already. It's just that weak performances now cannot be evidence of such when strong performances now aren't evidence to the contrary.

And no, if Froome slows down at some indefinite point in the future, that doesn't make Ryo right any more than the doomsayers are that constantly predict global economic meltdown, being correct once every quarter century.

 

[Taxus4a]

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I don't know the history everyone has with Ryo, but what does one dominant stage win do to contradict the idea he is physically declining? Nibali, Valverde and Costa were all in the attack yesterday and were predictably tired, as well as Nibali doing his thing of refusing to put in any big effort lest his Tour peak suffer. As for Froome beating TJVG by 10 or so seconds - couldn't a declining Froome still be capable of this? Frankly even if Froome wins a second Tour, but declines to merely a contender next year and from then on, Ryo might not have been "wrong".

Quintana is not Tejay, but Froome have the initial ITT, and the TTT (Movistar is strong as well) to put time on him. Coblestone and windy stages are more unpredictable, the same as Huy and Mur the Bretagne.

 

[TMP402]

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Lol the British press:
http://www.theguardian.com/sport/2015/jun/12/vincenzo-nibali-leads-criterium-du-dauphine
Not much love shown there for CF
First they talk up Yates over Froome.
Second they focus on his sleeping.

Kenyans, Scots and Somalis just aren't very English, except when they are winning

That's a myth.

 

[Taxus4a]

Maybe Froome start declining in 5 years, but not before, for sure. If someone beat him is becouse is better, not becouse Froome is declining, but always there are years better than others in every rider.

 

[TMP402]

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And no, if Froome slows down at some indefinite point in the future, that doesn't make Ryo right any more than the doomsayers are that constantly predict global economic meltdown, being correct once every quarter century.

But he gave a reason, he didn't just state something would happen "at some indefinite point in the future".

 

[Jelantik]

Good win from Froomey today. He doesn't look as dominant as he used to be compare to his last couple appearance at Dauphine. And Tejay freakin' Garderen is his obstacles to get the yellow . He must be so lucky that BMC rode really fast on TTT.

 

[Taxus4a]

Good win from Froomey today. He doesn't look as dominant as he used to be compare to his last couple appearance at Dauphine. And Tejay freakin' Garderen is his obstacles to get the yellow . He must be so lucky that BMC rode really fast on TTT.

Short stage, short last climb, even with the previous hard short climb, and he put big time today, so, he was clearly dominant.

Look at this, it was a super Froome, this is the same:

http://www.cqranking.com/men/asp/gen/race.asp?raceid=25649

TVG at a similar distance in a similar climb.

Purito not far, Bardet, Elissonde, over there... and Nibali losing important time.

Very similar result.