Ah, ya gotta love the snark. We all get that he knew it beforehand. However, saying it out loud might make it feel differently to him. Or not.I'm sure he only realised yesterday he wasn't going to win the Tour this year.
Hence, "Maybe".
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Ah, ya gotta love the snark. We all get that he knew it beforehand. However, saying it out loud might make it feel differently to him. Or not.I'm sure he only realised yesterday he wasn't going to win the Tour this year.
I’m cheering for him but tbh he just looks like he’s got no power. The legs are doing the eggbeater but he’s going backward. I’m not sure this is fixable…I was surprised he hung in until the second climb. Maybe taking the pressure off himself yesterday was good for him. I’d say he’s approaching his pre-Vuelta 2011 level with this performance.
Agree. Of note, there is no reasonable explanation that the muscle and bone trauma has not been adequately addressed yet. Given this is a professional athlete, one had who has shown remarkable recovery capacities in the past, that the rehab started quite early and has been at a high professional level, that work has definitely taken place (regardless of what the end result has been). Neurological or other contributing issues to his ongoing challenges, those are certainly possibleYep, he needs to fix that or improve that weak leg if he can at all. Given he had a double compound fracture of the femur and they would have sliced into various muscles such as the quadracep etc when fixing the fractures presumably causing scarring and possibly nerve damage, plus any damage caused by the accident trauma itself, whether that is possible is another thing altogether.
Who are those people? (apart from Froome stating that himself in his videos)This thread it’s turning into absolute nonsense .
I can’t believe that there are people who think that Froome will have the form to be on a GT Top10 in the future!
This thread it’s turning into absolute nonsense .
I can’t believe that there are people who think that Froome will have the form to be on a GT Top10 in the future! That’s simply not possible. Just look at the guy for God sake!!
Not sure about Froome but the poll isn't funny.This thread it’s turning into absolute nonsense .
I can’t believe that there are people who think that Froome will have the form to be on a GT Top10 in the future! That’s simply not possible. Just look at the guy for God sake!!
I said and that is what happened, 39th you can consider is a bad result, but it is, of course, an improvement. I hope he fonish top 50 in GC and who knows, maybe top 40...that would be a step forward to know he is working in the correct way in this almost impossible target. I cpuldnt see the stage as I cant tvis weekend, but I was very happy to see that result. I cant believe that a rider that could finish Dauphine in a top 40, althouh he is not working (nor anybody working for hin) is done... He is inside a long processs of recovery... This Tour he wont be to be with the best.. But he has show today he is to start.. I can imagine 8 riders at Israel able to fibish in a top 50 or 40 in a race as Dauphine.. And for sure he will be better in Le Tour.. He has lost 2 kilos and we have this improvement, and he will be better and with less kilos in July... So, yes, ha has the righ to ride le Tour and do something interestingDoubt we’ll see any improvement this weekend.
That is the important issue. He doesnt lie... Instead what people say, he has always proven saying true.. And this time again.. He came here to see some progrees on the mountains and he has show that progress. He is not now to be brilliant, but what he did today has a very big merit in his case, and for that is very brilliant. He needed to equilibrate their legs and he gained muscle this winter.. It is the first time he loses weight this year.. And we see, as logical, and improvement.. He is not explosive.. But in stages with more endurance he does quite well... We have to see him as a amateur rider making progress.. So a 39th for an amateur rider is very good... Maybe in the future he can recover his level and of course 39th will be bad. It is a lot of work still to do for that, but he will.Not brilliant ... but better and actually fits what he was saying.
For sure you are not right.. With his fisic state the best he can get is what he got last year.. And now he can get better resultsAgree. Of note, there is no reasonable explanation that the muscle and bone trauma has not been adequately addressed yet. Given this is a professional athlete, one had who has shown remarkable recovery capacities in the past, that the rehab started quite early and has been at a high professional level, that work has definitely taken place (regardless of what the end result has been). Neurological or other contributing issues to his ongoing challenges, those are certainly possible
Age?? He startet late in cycling. He is young still... Explain that to Rebellin, pro at almost 50 years old and with decent results...If he's good enough to work for a teammate and willing to do so, then no reason to keep him off the Tour team. Due to the injury, plus his age, plus the fact he had already starting to decline, I don't think he can ever been a GC rider again.
Yeah, Rebellin really proved that age doesn't play a role in GT's. He even managed to finish one when he was already 28!Age?? He startet late in cycling. He is young still... Explain that to Rebellin, pro at almost 50 years old and with decent results...
If he's good enough to work for a teammate and willing to do so, then no reason to keep him off the Tour team.
Second best? How? Woods, Hermans and even Martin with the Giro in his legs are better GC options.He's actually the second best GC rider for ISN. Why would you not pick him? There's Woods, Impey and Greipel to come in. But I'm not sure any could pull off a headline - Woods is quality A Froome breakaway though, even if unsuccessful.
But I think it's unfair to dismiss him from his age on a day that a 41 year old won at the Dauphine
He's actually the second best GC rider for ISN. Why would you not pick him? There's Woods, Impey and Greipel to come in. But I'm not sure any could pull off a headline - Woods is quality A Froome breakaway though, even if unsuccessful.
But I think it's unfair to dismiss him from his age on a day that a 41 year old won at the Dauphine
Best level... Result it was 22th with no time lost in a stage in the desert...39th at 2 min and 40 sec. Best result of the season....
At Cataluña it was at 15 km from the finish.. He even sometimes dropeed when he was the best of the world and later recover.. He drop early but has his merit to lost so little at 7 K, becouse is not the same than to be sucking whell in a peloton.It's indeed better than many, but it's still 7K from the finish.
He was 50 in the moubtains in Cstaluña. He did first stsged much beter than in cataluña.. He lost 2 kilosm. Why is a surprised tbis if yiu analize data, results and belive what he say? Anyway I had to see the result to make sure, but I said yesterday he will make a progrees in the moubtains stsges.. Not a big progress, but a progress. Some people just see the simple argument he was overpassed in a ITT.. But his ITT was better that his one in Cataluña bevouse this was harder.. And tbat is the important issue, not the mediatic Froome was overpassed... And i hope he do better thid weekend.. But of course, is not sure.. A top 50 in GC will make a progress and will be great, but he can still be top 40 if he doesnt work and dont try breaks.. Or even doing that...I gotta admit, that's much better than I had expected.
I think this conversation is going to be very different after tomorrow.
This is my point. And one will definitely be able to say more. He's going to get shelled the next two days, coming in minutes or 10's of minutes down. And today won't look much like progress after that. You're right, if he doesn't loose 5 mins tomorrow that would reinforce what we might have seen today, but that also depends on how they race the first two climbs. If they let the break go and go relatively easy, he's probably going to make it over the top. If they race it hard, he's gone.I think today was a very good stage to measure the levels as the pace was rather high and everyone had to "go on their own" to the finish line.
Let's be realistic re tomorrow: most likely Froome will be dropped from the GC rider group at the first mountain and from there you can't really say anything anymore. If Froome would get on top of the first climb with GC riders tomorrow that would be a big surprise and a very big step ahead. Personally I find it unlikely but rather look at tomorrow for Froome as one more very good day to build up by just riding.
I'm not sure what you were saying?For sure you are not right.. With his fisic state the best he can get is what he got last year.. And now he can get better results