CMS Doping in sport revelations/discussion

[fmk_RoI]

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The burden of proof won't be on Freeman to prove innocence of not doping an athlete.

I wonder how often people here notice how The Boy Who Cried There's No Wolf To See Here does this, refuting a claim that hasn't been made. It's almost like it's a deliberate tactic.

 

[bambino]

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The burden of proof won't be on Freeman to prove innocence of not doping an athlete.

I wonder how often people here notice how The Boy Who Cried There's No Wolf To See Here does this, refuting a claim that hasn't been made. It's almost like it's a deliberate tactic.

I certainly do. Keep going, it is rather amusing.

 

[samhocking]

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The burden of proof won't be on Freeman to prove innocence of not doping an athlete.

I wonder how often people here notice how The Boy Who Cried There's No Wolf To See Here does this, refuting a claim that hasn't been made. It's almost like it's a deliberate tactic.

I'm not refuting anything. Anti-doping is a legal process.

 

[gillan1969]

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We should take bets on the outcome. My bet is there won't be an athlete involved. It will be decided Freeman lied to Peters & UKAD to cover his tracks to save his job after being intercepted for ordering Testogel for a senior member of staff he treated from his 1 day a week GP surgery he ran in the Velodrome. I think like the jiffy bag story, this too will be one more about vanity and broken friendships than doping.

first class..."you're a funny guy" (in goodfellas accent)

what was in the bag then, a mirror and a returned ring???? :lol:

 

[samhocking]

Wiggins legal battle with Lawton & DCMS begins once Testogate is over a dicky bird tells me ; )

 

[MartinGT]

Why after? Why not before? Surly if he was as confident he would do it before. He's also suing DCMS? he's suing the government, that's brave.

 

[ferryman]

Wiggins legal battle with Lawton & DCMS begins once Testogate is over a dicky bird tells me ; )

Him Sam, do you ever frequent football forums during the transfer window? It usually goes like this, my high up source at the club tells me x is signing on Monday, or my source, my good mate, who knows high up people at the club tells me Y is signing on Tuesday or, my best mate, who is my source but supports A tells me B is signing on Wednesday. And then there is, I was standing in the queue at Greggs yesterday and I heard this guy saying we're signing A, B, X, Y and Z on Thursday, but I can't reveal my source. Do you like sausage rolls and vanilla slices??

 

[MartinGT]

Wiggins legal battle with Lawton & DCMS begins once Testogate is over a dicky bird tells me ; )

Him Sam, do you ever frequent football forums during the transfer window? It usually goes like this, my high up source at the club tells me x is signing on Monday, or my source, my good mate, who knows high up people at the club tells me Y is signing on Tuesday or, my best mate, who is my source but supports A tells me B is signing on Wednesday. And then there is, I was standing in the queue at Greggs yesterday and I heard this guy saying we're signing A, B, X, Y and Z on Thursday, but I can't reveal my source. Do you like sausage rolls and vanilla slices??

:lol: :lol: :lol: Greggs :lol: :lol:

Classic

 

[King Boonen]

Mod hat on:

Hi all, several posts seem to be getting a little too personal in this thread. I've not seen anything that crosses the line yet, but please think about what you're posting.

Cheers,

KB.

 

[Robert5091]

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/sport/s...ails-attend-opening-day-medical-tribunal.html
http://www.cyclingnews.com/news/freeman-requests-adjournment-of-medical-tribunal/

An adjournment of 48 hours has been applied for, which the panel of three tribunal members of are currently discussing.

The request for a private session is understood to be related to Freeman’s health.

Quelle surprise (got a new book in the works too maybe?)

 

[MartinGT]

You couldn't make it up eh?

But hey, nothing to see here, move along guys.

Has Phil Mitchell been round for a 'chat'? :lol:

 

[macbindle]

It's a "month long" tribunal...so I'm not seeing this failure to appear in the same light as his non-appearance at the DCMS.

I hope the truth emerges at some point about his motivations for prescribing Kenacort to Wiggins by way of TUE, given that some or all of the other Sky medical team conspired to prevent him from so doing. (and yes, I realise this tribunal is about the testosterone)

 

[MartinGT]

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It's a "month long" tribunal...so I'm not seeing this failure to appear in the same light as his non-appearance at the DCMS.

I hope the truth emerges at some point about his motivations for prescribing Kenacort to Wiggins by way of TUE, given that some or all of the other Sky medical team conspired to prevent him from so doing. (and yes, I realise this tribunal is about the testosterone)

Will that come up in the tribunal?

 

[macbindle]

Indirectly it might, but also if he's struck off, thereby rendering him unemployable, he might do an Oprah.

 

[MartinGT]

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Indirectly it might, but also if he's struck off, thereby rendering him unemployable, he might do an Oprah.

I would cry if I saw him on Jezza Kyle :lol:

 

[MartinGT]

If he didnt have anything to hide, surly he would just show up. Clear his name and the name of Sky / BC.

If he does have something to hide, he will surly be under immense pressure from whoever are the guilty parties.

 

[King Boonen]

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If he didnt have anything to hide, surly he would just show up. Clear his name and the name of Sky / BC.

If he does have something to hide, he will surly be under immense pressure from whoever are the guilty parties.

I don't think this is always true (there's a huge amount of evidence that it isn't) and I certainly don't think it's true for someone who suffers from mental health problems.

 

[macbindle]

^ this.

It sounds a little too analogous to the 'Nothing to hide' argument, used to justify intrusive mass-surveillance, for comfort.

Failure to imagine other possibilities does not mean those possibilities do not exist.

 

[MatParker117]

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Indirectly it might, but also if he's struck off, thereby rendering him unemployable, he might do an Oprah.

Not a chance, a gagging order would be issued in minutes.

 

[MartinGT]

I seriously do not think there will be any massive revelations on the outcome of this tribunal tbh.

 

[macbindle]

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Indirectly it might, but also if he's struck off, thereby rendering him unemployable, he might do an Oprah.

Not a chance, a gagging order would be issued in minutes.

On what grounds?

 

[MartinGT]

Adjourned until Friday.

 

[MatParker117]

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Indirectly it might, but also if he's struck off, thereby rendering him unemployable, he might do an Oprah.

Not a chance, a gagging order would be issued in minutes.

On what grounds?

Doctor patient confidentiality and privacy. While in theory he could say that I gave "Banned substance X to Team Sky rider/staff" there's no legal way for him to prove it was for a specific individual thanks to the robbery and loss of the laptop. Without that it's he said she said and Freeman and whoever prints the interview puts themselves at massive risk of being sued.

 

[samhocking]

Wiggins legal battle with Lawton & DCMS begins once Testogate is over a dicky bird tells me ; )

Him Sam, do you ever frequent football forums during the transfer window? It usually goes like this, my high up source at the club tells me x is signing on Monday, or my source, my good mate, who knows high up people at the club tells me Y is signing on Tuesday or, my best mate, who is my source but supports A tells me B is signing on Wednesday. And then there is, I was standing in the queue at Greggs yesterday and I heard this guy saying we're signing A, B, X, Y and Z on Thursday, but I can't reveal my source. Do you like sausage rolls and vanilla slices??

Not sure you realise 'dicky bird' is Cockney Rhyming Slang for 'nothing', ie no word. Too subtle outside Bow Bells maybe?

 

[samhocking]

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If he didnt have anything to hide, surly he would just show up. Clear his name and the name of Sky / BC.

If he does have something to hide, he will surly be under immense pressure from whoever are the guilty parties.

I don't think this is always true (there's a huge amount of evidence that it isn't) and I certainly don't think it's true for someone who suffers from mental health problems.

The MPTS chair said:

There is likely to be a further application on Friday morning which would require legal arguments and it may well be that they would be heard in private

It sounds like new evidence has come to light. Nothing to do with Freeman's health or not being there. In fact the chair also confirms:

Both parties - Freeman and the GMC - have been invited to submit documents to the tribunal panel, which will be read through on Thursday ahead of reconvening on Friday morning.