Contador leaving Astana

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If you insist on using a red herring to distract from the original point can I at least get an order of fries and a diet come with it? Oh, and I like my red herring sautéd in a nice lemon-butter.

Scribbles I was expecting more from you. Perhaps going forward you should keep my name out of your comments unless it is in response to a post of mine? Is that fair enough or do you want to keep up your passive-aggressive sniping?

So wait. You have enjoyed the freedom of rubbing your bute in my bizness, but the second you get some back, it has to stop?

 

[Boeing]

Great more Specialized superstores and more of the mothership turning the screws on the small dealers

 

[richwagmn]

David Navarro is looking at a tasty contract next year.

Deservedly so. Worth 10 Levi Leipheimers.

 

[Publicus]

So wait. You have enjoyed the freedom of rubbing your bute in my bizness, but the second you get some back, it has to stop?

Still not about me Scribbles. And you put me in your business. If you didn't want my attention perhaps you should keep me out if your comments. It's real simple, even for someone like you Scribbles.

 

[Race Radio]

Coming from the guy that has nearly a quarter of the posts in the official Lance Armstrong thread

You sound jealous

 

[Ryaguas]

You should jealous

Word...

Ok guys... it's time to stop deviating the post... sorry I'm not the best to say it but I really want to know what is going on with AC's situation

Mates this is killing me... so which would probably be the AC's team for the next year? cuz Schlecks are moving and taking some riders with them like: Fulgsang, maybe Voigt?, O'grady?, Haedo brothers?

so at the end... This new team for Contador would be better or the same that he had this year or worst? maybe Martinelli is going with Contador? gosh... I really want to know what is going to happen...

 

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You should jealous

You're not far behind on that post tally for the official fanboy thread.

You'd be a lot more interesting if you spent more time in race threads. As such, I don't really read much of what you have to say.

 

[Bicicleta]

David Navarro is looking at a tasty contract next year.

So glad Dani if finally getting the recognition he deserves. He and Noval are my Asturian homies. Vale Dani - bien merecido.

 

[Race Radio]

You're not far behind on that post tally for the official fanboy thread.

You'd be a lot more interesting if you spent more time in race threads. As such, I don't really read much of what you have to say.

Sorry, didn't post much during the Tour as I was actually at the race.

The classics, DL, Swiss, most races I am on the thread. I would not expect you to know this as I have never seen you on any of them

 

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Sorry, didn't post much during the Tour as I was actually at the race.

The classics, DL, Swiss, most races I am on the thread. I would not expect you to know this as I have never seen you on any of them

::yawn::

Of course, that all sounds fine in theory, but it isn't really what you while your time away doing on this forum. But that's fine, we rarely cross paths in the areas you actually hang out in.

 

[nicholaaaas]

I've been wondering for a while why a supposed GT team has all their GC eggs in Schleck baskets and no other climbers to support. Andy has done well with 6-7 rouleurs, be pretty amazing to see a more balanced team over there with Jens and Fabian supporting and a new "Spanish Armada"

I guess they figued that Jens and Fabian could do what they did last year. they were riding favourites off their wheels in the mountains in 09

 

[hrotha]

I guess they figued that Jens and Fabian could do what they did last year. they were riding favourites off their wheels in the mountains in 09

Fuglsang and Chris Anker Sørensen should have been enough. Nicki Sørensen, too.

 

[nicholaaaas]

Fuglsang and Chris Anker Sørensen should have been enough. Nicki Sørensen, too.

they didn't do bad... they didn't do near good enough either

 

[Publicus]

Fuglsang and Chris Anker Sørensen should have been enough. Nicki Sørensen, too.

There were some really lofty expectations placed on Fuglsgang (sp). I think Frank's premature departure put too much pressure on him to fill the void.

 

[Publicus]

David Navarro is looking at a tasty contract next year.

He definitely proved his mettle this year. Even before the Tour he was putting in some quality work at the other stage races. He's earned every penny coming to him.

 

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There were some really lofty expectations placed on Fuglsgang (sp). I think Frank's premature departure put too much pressure on him to field the void.

Yes. But Frank's work is to basically survive just in front of his brother, and cover all GC attacks. Much what we saw from Vino, just without the solo stage win attacks.

 

[rata de sentina]

I'd have bet dollars to donuts that Polish would spin this in a negative way, unfortunately I couldn't find anybody who would take the other side of that bet.

I really value Polish's unique interpretation of events. Personally, I think Polish composes a post of logical deductions and then perversely switches it around to cause mischief. Maybe I'm just being optimistic. Polish's most redeeming feature is a lack of viscious undertone or whining self pity which distinguishes them from other posters with a similar cognititive deficit.

 

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Yes. But Frank's work is to basically survive just in front of his brother, and cover all GC attacks. Much what we saw from Vino, just without the solo stage win attacks.

That's not how I've viewed Frank's role. He is the ying to Andy's yang in lots of ways. Rarely do I recall him burying himself to set up Andy. He may draw first blood, but the plan seems to be a tag team between the Brothers Schleck and the other GC threats. I think Andy missed him tremendously in the mountains--he was forced to work with his biggest competitor to get time, whereas (theoretically speaking) he could have relied on Frank to help crack AC.

 

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That's not how I've viewed Frank's role. He is the ying to Andy's yang in lots of ways. Rarely do I recall him burying himself to set up Andy. He may draw first blood, but the plan seems to be a tag team between the Brothers Schleck and the other GC threats. I think Andy missed him tremendously in the mountains--he was forced to work with his biggest competitor to get time, whereas (theoretically speaking) he could have relied on Frank to help crack AC.

We agree on all points. Except for there was never any additional pressure on fuglsang, as his sole role was to bury himself as set up.

 

[Ryaguas]

I really value Polish's unique interpretation of events. Personally, I think Polish composes a post of logical deductions and then perversely switches it around to cause mischief. Maybe I'm just being optimistic. Polish's most redeeming feature is a lack of viscious undertone or whining self pity which distinguishes them from other posters with a similar cognititive deficit.

You forgot to put "Yo mamma..."

 

[mowie133]

so does this make allan davis team leader at the tour lol

where does this leave Richie Porte,

 

[theswordsman]

The most spectacular equipment problem occurred when Contador's race radio broke after the first seven kilometres of the Tour's crucial 52km final time-trial stage which meant the Spaniard had no idea how he was time-wise compared to his rival Andy Schleck in an event decided by a few seconds.

A one-off radio breakdown happens to nearly every cycling team, but Contador's race radio has been failing in almost all the time-trials he has taken part in this season.

Astana were also incapable of getting their team car's television to work during the Tour. As a result when Schleck had a mechanical problem during a Pyrenean stage and Contador continued racing – an incident which generated a huge controversy – the team were unable to give him any exact information to Contador of what had happened to Schleck.

http://www.independent.co.uk/sport/...s-astana-over-equipment-failings-2037790.html

Alberto Contador will not have a quiet summer, at least not as much as expected, since it has decided to disassociate itself from Astana, the team with which he has twice won the Tour de France, and the leading three years running.
His departure has nothing to do with economic issues, will be hard to find training that will pay more, but other domestic issues, among which are the technical management team and all involved in organizing a group of that level.
"We want to resolve this issue as soon as possible so that Alberto is calm," explained his brother Fran, who is their representative.
"Alberto, you want to be concerned only with preparing the races, running, without having to be aware of other issues. Logically, we will try to have most of the riders who have supported us in Astana, "says Fran.
Typically counter with his new team calling at Dani Navarro, Benjamin Noval and Jesus Hernandez, along with Faustino Muñoz (mechanical) and Valentin Dorronsoro (masseur), and his trainer, Pepe Martí

What do you look with Bjarne Rijs Contador? We have said that no money is gone. What he wants is a serious structure, with a director used to work hard, who rules, who makes decisions, the team that prevails above all, concentrating many of their riders, which is above them and knows how to a winner of the Tour.

http://www.diariovasco.com/v/20100729/deportes/ciclismo/contador-deja-astana-bjarne-20100729.html

 

[I Watch Cycling In July]

so which is it, the radio was broken or they were mis-reporting the time checks?

 

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http://www.independent.co.uk/sport/...s-astana-over-equipment-failings-2037790.html

I'm not sure I get the point of referencing the broken radio or non-functioning tv. Is the implication that these things were intentional? Also if the radio was in fact broken, how did he hear that he was behind at the first check? Or they lie to him about being behind further into the TT? If he couldn't hear them, then wouldn't he have said so immediately after the stage? And with respect to the chain situation, IIRC, he said he eventually learned what happened, but was already up the road with Menchov and Sanchez. What is gained by casting blame on a malfunctioning tv (other than remind folks again about the controversy)?

I'm not directing these comments at your personally Swordsman, but to the forum in general. It seems to me that this doesn't help AC (or cast him in a very good light). Which makes me wonder who is actually saying this (I don't see any direct quotes which makes me think it isn't AC or Fran, but I could be wrong).

EDIT: I see the second article quotes Fran, so obviously I was wrong. I don't agree with the posturing Fran is taking here. At least based on what we know so far. There must be more to this to warrant this kind of response from Fran. At least I hope there is.

 

[Road Hazard]

Just a note on the main stream press in the US:

Associated Press (and shown on Yahoo news) reported on this:

Contador to leave Astana at end of 2010
http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20100728/ap_on_sp_ot/cyc_contador_astana

Maybe cycling news in the US is gaining traction of its own accord (i.e., apart from Armstrong).