Could LA be pushed to come out?

[JPM London]

I'm hopelessly trying to catch up on all the threads and their many, many comments, but am not going to get there quite yet, so all the pologies of the world in case this point has been brought up elsewhere already...

Anybody thinking that maybe more and more form the old USPS doping clan might be indicating to LA that they will eventually spill the beans and back up Floyd in order to push LA to come clean on his own?

It would obviously be a prettier sight than letting it take the Telekom route...

 

[Alpe d'Huez]

I suggested the same on about post 2162 of that thread. You missed it?

I did so with tongue in cheek though. Lance is not going to confess, maybe never. As long as you don't admit to anything, there will always be at least some people who will believe you no matter what. But when you admit it, then that goes away. But where as Floyd actually gained some ardent fans by confessing, Lance has dug such a hole, deeper than Floyd did, that those same fans would not likely support him in large numbers, and it would be very difficult to climb out.

The only exception to this is if Lance faces some sort of federal indictment that would result in jail time. If he gets to that point (and I don't think that will ever happen) then he might talk. Other than that...his death bed maybe.

 

[goggalor]

Anybody thinking that maybe more and more form the old USPS doping clan might be indicating to LA that they will eventually spill the beans and back up Floyd in order to push LA to come clean on his own?

Maybe to his mom...on her deathbed... Maybe.

 

[D Avoid]

Maybe to his mom...on her deathbed... Maybe.

You are being a bit funfair to his mother, shebeen on the roller coaster with a bottle of grim for this long and you want to ruin her big moment.

 

[ProfTournesol]

when I saw the title of this thread, I thought that maybe LA was in the closet! No, not the doping closet, the other one as well. Nothing would surprise me about him (apart from honesty).

 

[Cerberus]

I almost agree with the previous posters. LA has committed himself very strongly to proclaiming his innocence. He will not and cannot give up that pretence unless he has absolutely no choice. I do not however thing that LA is crazy, if the ball starts rolling and enough people come our and perhaps some old samples get retested denial just starts getting silly. A positive test can be explained away to the public because people don't understand how the tests work. A positive test and dozens of witnesses are much harder. I don't think he will be the second to come "clean". If it happens he'll be number 5 or 10. I also depends on whether there could be legal consequences to an admission and in that case if he can cut a deal. Obviously admitting to bribing the UCI, if that allegation is true, could be a serious matter.

 

[Mrs John Murphy]

He might go down the Tiger Woods, A-Roid, McGwire line. Do a tearful TV interview - confess perhaps to the least damaging things - ie a long time ago, etc etc maybe doping at Motorola but that he was clean when he won the TDF etc etc, and hope that it will all go away.

If the fanboys are willing to forgive the likes of McGwire, A-Roid and Woods, then I am sure they will forgive the Uniballer.

 

[broken chain]

All this talk is rubbish,the man rides clean.

 

[JA.Tri]

All this talk is rubbish,the man rides clean.

maybeeeee... however unlikely. Even if not currently "doping" (ie currently taking PEDs) there is significant possibility of gene therapy.

Of all the Pro-Tour cyclists, LA, with his undoubted numerous connections, is one of the relatively few to likely have access to such therapy. His manner, desire and motivation make him a likely candidate.

 

[theswordsman]

I suggested the same on about post 2162 of that thread. You missed it?

I did so with tongue in cheek though. Lance is not going to confess, maybe never. As long as you don't admit to anything, there will always be at least some people who will believe you no matter what. But when you admit it, then that goes away. But where as Floyd actually gained some ardent fans by confessing, Lance has dug such a hole, deeper than Floyd did, that those same fans would not likely support him in large numbers, and it would be very difficult to climb out.

Two things Lance never admits to being wrong, and being surprised. When he "apologized" to CVV and Sastre last year for belittling them in a book, he repeated what he saidm and then "that was not correct". He's more the Jack Nicholson character in A Few Good Men. But he's getting so careless with his lies lately, maybe because the press has been willing to print anything he says without question, or to call BS. Saying Thursday morning on camera that he had never given money to the UCI was either a rookie mistake or hubris. He just doesn't get how serious this is, and how any frozen test sample could bring him down. None of the bullying, name calling, threats or bribes can stop this one. And he can make a lot of things worse by ttrying to fight dirty again.

 

[Roland Rat]

He comes across as the type of kid who, if punished while playing football, would then take the ball home with him "It's mine and if I can't play, no-one can".

I think he'll deny, deny, deny initially. But if it become so serious that either he has to admit what happened, or he's looking at jail time, then he'll bring the whole thing down with him. I think Lance is a coward at heart, most bullies are, and therefore the threat of shower time with America's finest would see him squeal like a piggy. But the spin will be "I had to, look, everyone else was doing it, I was just levelling the playing field". His fanboys are already turning to that line.

 

[UlleGigo]

I'm pretty much in agreement with Alpe d'Huez that he will never admit to cheating come hell nor high water perhaps even through sheer habit if for no other reason. I think he has denied it so vehemently and been so critical of others that to admit it now would be seen as the ultimate betrayal to all his yokel fans.

Also, I think he is deluded enough to think that he is an actual hero to all of America and he would be chased out with pitchforks and flaming sticks if he admitted to it now. He may be right on that second part.

I think that a lot of the samples that could show a concrete positive are now either too far into retrograde or will never see the light of day because of Pharmstrong's wall of a-hole lawyers. Which is a shame.

At least I can still take pleasure in listening to Phil Ligget tell us that the French really do love ol' One Ball while we watch people spit at him from the side of road come July.