Critérium du Dauphiné 2025, June 8 - 15

[Rou]

Nobody thought so. He just had a poor TT performance, which Pogi fanboys found quite difficult to deal with.

He was playing with everyone or you still don't see it?

 

[Miha81]

Did not expect this. But it is all about hidding real cards for TDF. Lipo looks fantastic.

 

[Rackham]

Everyone took a spanking... Visma as a team actually not so much. Jorgenson and Tulett were good. It was Vingegaard who just got destroyed, doesn't have the level you might expect from him.

Agreed.

Vingegaard is not at his Dauphiné 2023 level. At least not comparatively speaking versus the rest of the field.

The fact he 'only' put 20 seconds or so into Lipowitz was quite surprising.

 

[Logic-is-your-friend]

Wellens sitting on Remco’s wheel is just rubbing salt in the wound

All it does is shows Evenepoel was not performing near his potential. Heat, crash, form, whatever the reason.

 

[theyoungest]

If Visma want a real shot at the Tour, they need to re-evaluate their tactics.

They can't go head to head with UAE with the same tactics, that much is clear from today.

Sure Van Aert and Simon Yates are not there, but neither are Almeida and Adam Yates.

If the gap between Pogi and the rest is this big at the Tour the tactics really don't matter.

 

[Samamba]

Louis Barré also a climber now.

A lot of disappointing performances from Tour guys but obviously still a full month before the mountain stages in the Tour begin.

 

[Filippo_3467]

wtf is Barre doing up there. Buchmann probably with the best climbing performance of his life to get 11th with that crazy tempo.

 

[James M]

What a ''duel'' btw. I wonder when you guys who watch every race under the sun how you can even be surprised by this.

The most obvious thing there is, he can drop Vingegaard whenever he wants on climbs and just ride away... Never seen a guy play more with his food in the TT. He wasn't even tired after the TT, not giving any numbers away, to do that knowing you still win, laughing. It's over. It's ridiculous how big the gap is

 

[theyoungest]

He was playing with everyone or you still don't see it?

Come on, he rode a poor TT. Just accept that your lord and saviour can have a bad performance every once in a while.

I don't even think he had such a bad day, but his TT setup didn't do him any favours.

 

[ice&fire]

Any pictures of Jonas having a look at Teddy's bike?

 

[Boehmand]

I hope Visma dares to go long range tomorrow, to test if they stand a better chance if they make the day extreme.

 

[Moose McKnuckles]

Lipo has made a significant jump. I think so has Jorgenson.
I'm a Pog fan, and I certainly didn't expect this today. I don't think he even got out of the saddle. He just rode Vingo off his wheel.

 

[Filippo_3467]

If the gap between Pogi and the rest is this big at the Tour the tactics really don't matter.

If you inject some truth serum into Visma they would say the only rational thing: We hope Pogi crashes. if not were riding for second place.

 

[theyoungest]

What a ''duel'' btw. I wonder when you guys who watch every race under the sun how you can even be surprised by this.

The most obvious thing there is, he can drop Vingegaard whenever he wants on climbs....Never seen a guy play more with his food. Its jeoever

Because Vingegaard has beaten him twice. But now Vingo is barely better than second tier riders. Yeah, then it becomes rather easy.

 

[QueenStagiaire]

Same distance Pogačar-Vingegaard and Vingegaard-Barré

Louis Barré also a climber now.

A lot of disappointing performances from Tour guys but obviously still a full month before the mountain stages in the Tour begin.

Next French Tour winner… One-Week races are weird, man

 

[Krzysztof_O]

Wow, Teddy showed them who's the boss! A seated attack (!) to drop them all and quite big gaps for this moderate climb. I actually expected Vingo to test Pogi today but Visma-LAB will probably try an attack tomorrow. Vingo not at his best but that's cycling (neither was Pogacar 2 days ago). Let's see what tomorrow brings.

 

[pastronef]

dear me I checked, all 3 stages of this weekend are not above 130 km wtf

 

[Rou]

Come on, he rode a poor TT. Just accept that your lord and saviour can have a bad performance every once in a while.

I don't even think he had such a bad day, but his TT setup didn't do him any favours.

I was thinking that also but please read the posts of Danielson. He knows more than you and me about cycling. I am 100 % sure now that Pogacar was training in the TT.

 

[Rechtschreibfehler]

Seixas 10th of the day 8th in GC. Let's see if he can hold on to this the next two days!

 

[postmanhat]

Still don't understand how only IWG were the only team to see Louis Barre's potential. Or maybe he's just performing massively above expectation?

 

[Boehmand]

If the gap between Pogi and the rest is this big at the Tour the tactics really don't matter.

You may think that, but no professional athelte worth his salt would ever thing that - it would defeat the entire purpose of taking part in the race - and actually make you perform much worse.

 

[Devil's Elbow]

Seixas 10th of the day 8th in GC. Let's see if he can hold on to this the next two days!

Still yet to miss the top-10 on a WT MTF!

 

[solo80k]

The sweat respects his greatness

This is the topic for the another subforum... 😅

 

[Miha81]

Lipo has made a significant jump. I think so has Jorgenson.
I'm a Pog fan, and I certainly didn't expect this today. I don't think he even got out of the saddle. He just rode Vingo off his wheel.

But still it does not mean a lot in a greater scheme. They probably all came slightly undercooked so TDF should be fun (I hope so).

 

[Muren]

We can only hope Vinge had a bad day and shape will improve to the tour.
Otherwise, the tour will be incredibly boring.

However, after seeing Vinge losing a minute in just 7-8k, I'm very pessimistic.
Even Vinge on a good day is still 30s behind I believe.

Some like to see domination. Well, I can be fun for a while, but in the end we want a battle, especially in the tour. Now I sincerely doubt we will see one.