Critérium du Dauphiné 2025, June 8 - 15

[Oldman]

Firstly I am sorry to say that any dreams about Remco being a Tour winner are truly delusional. He isn't and he was never a climber for the high mountains

I also think while today Pogacar was too strong I still think that the Tour is long and Vinge has had very little racing for an age. We might still see a battle in the high mountains in the third week

Had to laugh given Pog interview this morning when Daniel Friebe asked him about ego and not putting it all out there today and maybe waiting for the Tour. And Pog agreed . Yeah right he wanted today to show who is boss after his defeat in the TT,

He wanted to measure himself.

 

[Poursuivant]

LOL. It appears that Danielson knows more than everyone here and Pog was bluffing 2 days ago. ROFL

100% wasn’t bluffing, he has said again today he will work on his TT, there’s obviously some sort of problem with the bike as the legs are fine.

 

[Rou]

100% wasn’t bluffing, he has said again today he will work on his TT, there’s obviously some sort of problem with the bike as the legs are fine.

I repeat. I also believed that but I was dead wrong. Pogacar in his December shape does not lose 25 secs in 6 kms. And drinking after 10 mins on a short TT? With these legs Pogacar should be riding a fixie to be slower than Jorgenson.

 

[fenns]

Well we have seen it before . I dont know what Vinge's level is or if he had a bad day today but he has beaten Pog before. We have seen Pog attack him and beat him and he has come back and won. Pog does look unassailable but cycling is a mysterious mistress . And its quite annoying that so many on here forget that time and time again

Of course it's possible. But we've never before had a preview of the Pogi/Jonas battle just before the Tour. Jonas was giving everything today but still lost a minute to Pogi and lost contact very early. At the moment it points to a repeat of 2024.

 

[Boehmand]

I told you he was sandbagging in the TT

To what end?

 

[broppo]

Good job Quickstep mowed down the threatening Benjamin Thomas yesterday great cycling lads top top work

Have you never seen quickstep ride before? As soon as Remco wears the leaders jersey they keep all the breaks in check at every stage. Even today they pulled.

 

[Zoetemelk-fan]

Just had the opportunity to watch last 40k of today's stage.

Oh, the eagerness!

Though I'd some kind of expected something like that with background in what happened at the TT - Pogi can't let such things slide

 

[Zoetemelk-fan]

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[TastyGroceries]

Louis Barré also a climber now.

I'd expect him to completely crack on longer climbs tomorrow though, he's performing very well this year but I'd be very surprised if he's with the best in those 20km ascents.

 

[madthebad]

Nasty stuff by Pogi today . Looked as easy as skinning herrings at a fish factory in Denmark . Can't wait for this TDF and see the GOAT eating his "rivals" alive 🤩

 

[Cycling111]

The Giro's situation has been reversed. 3 Visma riders in the top 10, but another leader.

1	7	▲6	POGAČAR Tadej	UAE Team Emirates - XRG	10	22″	21:35:08
2	5	▲3	VINGEGAARD Jonas	Team Visma | Lease a Bike		12″	0:43
3	2	▼1	LIPOWITZ Florian	Red Bull - BORA - hansgrohe		4″	0:54
4	1	▼3	EVENEPOEL Remco	Soudal Quick-Step		1″	1:22
5	8	▲3	JORGENSON Matteo	Team Visma | Lease a Bike			1:41
6	6	-	DUNBAR Eddie	Team Jayco AlUla			2:28
7	9	▲2	BARRÉ Louis	Intermarché - Wanty		7″	2:39
8	10	▲2	SEIXAS Paul	Decathlon AG2R La Mondiale Team			2:49
9	20	▲11	JOHANNESSEN Tobias Halland	Uno-X Mobility			3:21
10	24	▲14	TULETT Ben	Team Visma | Lease a Bike			3:26

 

[Pippo_San]

My man Tadej was hungry for blood today.
Job done ✅

Another yellow jersey secured ⭐
(really bad showing from Jonas...doesn't look good at all)

 

[Carols]

I just finished watching the stage. Pogi is becoming tiresome. One can only marvel at his ability or consider not watching him because it makes me wonder. I am neutral about Vingo and dislike Remco so favoritism plays no part in my emotional response to Pogi's display. I've just seen it to Many times.

 

[Zoetemelk-fan]

The Giro's situation has been reversed. 3 Visma riders in the top 10, but another leader.

1	7	▲6	POGAČAR Tadej	UAE Team Emirates - XRG	10	22″	21:35:08
2	5	▲3	VINGEGAARD Jonas	Team Visma | Lease a Bike		12″	0:43
3	2	▼1	LIPOWITZ Florian	Red Bull - BORA - hansgrohe		4″	0:54
4	1	▼3	EVENEPOEL Remco	Soudal Quick-Step		1″	1:22
5	8	▲3	JORGENSON Matteo	Team Visma | Lease a Bike			1:41
6	6	-	DUNBAR Eddie	Team Jayco AlUla			2:28
7	9	▲2	BARRÉ Louis	Intermarché - Wanty		7″	2:39
8	10	▲2	SEIXAS Paul	Decathlon AG2R La Mondiale Team			2:49
9	20	▲11	JOHANNESSEN Tobias Halland	Uno-X Mobility			3:21
10	24	▲14	TULETT Ben	Team Visma | Lease a Bike			3:26

So you say Visma Giro things are gonna happen later in this bike race?

 

[Cycling111]

So you say Visma Giro things are gonna happen later in this bike race?

No. What I was saying is that it's the Giro situation, but the roles of the teams are changing.
In the Giro, UAE had three riders in the top 10 but they didn't win

 

[Ilmaestro99]

Good job Quickstep mowed down the threatening Benjamin Thomas yesterday great cycling lads top top work

https://twitter.com/x/status/1933248925965615434

View: https://x.com/Ben__Thomas_/status/1933248925965615434?t=mqE1_DUTlhuF34FSsW0y2w&s=19

 

[Zoetemelk-fan]

No. What I was saying is that it's the Giro situation, but the roles of the teams are changing.
In the Giro, UAE had three riders in the top 10 but they didn't win

Ah. I see.
So Lipo is the Yates here.
Can't wait.

 

[Sciatic]

The Tour was over 2 days ago? ROFL

You’re doing a straw man here just to amplify your comment. Show us how many posts, that were not done in jest or just for fun (of which there were many), were actually saying Pog’s tour chances were over after the ITT?

 

[Rou]

You’re doing a straw man here just to amplify your comment. Show us how many posts, that were not done in jest or just for fun (of which there were many), were actually saying Pog’s tour chances were over after the ITT?

I'm joking man. Cycling in 2025 is a show so let's enjoy it.

 

[Escarabajo]

The gap from Vingegaard to the rest is actually similar to when he won in 2023. The question is 1) how close he was to his peak level at the time (because he should be similarly close/far here, if not marginally further because of the backloaded Tour route), 2) whether Pogacar is closer to his peak level, and 3) how much stronger Pogacar is compared to 2022/2023. This Dauphiné won't provide the answer to any of the above, so there is literally nothing to care about left in the remaining two stages.

I wouldn't read too much into Vingegaard's form today because he has not been riding hard since a long time ago. I think He is going to be better than the rest, but not close to Pogacar.

 

[Unchained]

He wanted to measure himself.

My prediction that Remco would put on a brave face and overcome crashing, maybe stay up there on day old adrenaline was wrong. That fact that he really couldn't answer anyone, most just left after one or 2 medium efforts. He wanted a measurement, it's still ok but his ride today has to beat real downer..see if he bounces back. Lots of guys are likely worried that Pogacar dropped all without getting out of the saddle almost at all, and he just rode everyone off his wheel, super impressive and huge confidence booster. Lipowitz excellent outing today..

 

[Unchained]

No. What I was saying is that it's the Giro situation, but the roles of the teams are changing.
In the Giro, UAE had three riders in the top 10 but they didn't win

Shame that Tim Wellens popped, he looked ok just suckling on the wheel, but it wasn't to be, he was discarded even after doing no work ..the big win comes for Visma with everyone riding decent.

 

[Unchained]

I just finished watching the stage. Pogi is becoming tiresome. One can only marvel at his ability or consider not watching him because it makes me wonder. I am neutral about Vingo and dislike Remco so favoritism plays no part in my emotional response to Pogi's display. I've just seen it to Many times.

I saw something completely different, super impressed with final effort by Pogacar, but almost as impressive was top ten within 2 minutes of monster climb. Jonas keep it together, fantastic recovery to not give away more time. Jorgenson and Lipowitz both made choices to go a little deeper, both of them had excellent days.. Pog won but a single minute is hardly overwhelming. Most of UAE not looking so helpful to Pogacar.

 

[Rackham]

I saw something completely different, super impressed with final effort by Pogacar, but almost as impressive was top ten within 2 minutes of monster climb. Jonas keep it together, fantastic recovery to not give away more time. Jorgenson and Lipowitz both made choices to go a little deeper, both of them had excellent days.. Pog won but a single minute is hardly overwhelming. Most of UAE not looking so helpful to Pogacar.

One minute on a couple of short cat 2's was extremely impressive, actually. Evenepoel got clobbered but he still finished 5th. That shows how everyone pretty much landed where their legs said they'd land on the day. It was a pure watts versus watts head on collision.

Matteo looked good, at least. Kuss is not going to be helpful for anyone in this form. I still don't understand attacking on Saxonnex unless Jonas was feeling invincible. Which he clearly wasn't...

It's always difficult to judge a posteriori when a rider gets dropped the way Vingegaard did. Psychologically speaking he was in a very difficult place when Pog blew him off his wheel, i.e. it's like maybe he did feel great but didn't exactly expect Pog to be able to do that to him so in the end felt way worse.

 

[Unterlenkerfahrend]

Vingegaard looked slightly worse than what you would hope for/expect at this stage, just 20s ahead of Lipowitz who wasted a lot with his useless attack and also entered the last time in *** position is not a great performance.
But even if he were better, it would still be something like 30 seconds behind Pogacar who looked unbeatable today. Doesn't bode well for the Tour...
Yawn, at least we had the Giro.