Danny Pate dig at Tom Danielson's doping?

[FXDGEAR]

I'm putting this here because of the following twitter post. I'm assuming Danny's comments are in regards to Tom's doping; but I'm surprised to see that this tweet didn't cause more commentary.

Todd Wells tweeted regarding the UCI and USA Cycling's recent statement on barring UCI license holders from competing in unsanctioned races which was largely brought to the attention of USA Cycling by a Danny Pate tweet (
http://velonews.competitor.com/2012...-growing-grass-roots-or-trampling-them_270056 ).

todd wellsVerified account ‏@yotwells 10 Apr
Who knew @TheDPate would have such a big impact on US MTB in 2013 w/ 1 tweet last year? Power of #socialmedia

Danny Pate Danny Pate‏@TheDPate @yotwells My tweet was nothing about MTB & everything to do with TummyD, like usual not caring that he was doing what he knew was wrong

Wonder how much animosity there is between these two?

 

[D-Queued]

I'm putting this here because of the following twitter post. I'm assuming Danny's comments are in regards to Tom's doping; but I'm surprised to see that this tweet didn't cause more commentary.

Todd Wells tweeted regarding the UCI and USA Cycling's recent statement on barring UCI license holders from competing in unsanctioned races which was largely brought to the attention of USA Cycling by a Danny Pate tweet (
http://velonews.competitor.com/2012...-growing-grass-roots-or-trampling-them_270056 ).

todd wellsVerified account ‏@yotwells 10 Apr
Who knew @TheDPate would have such a big impact on US MTB in 2013 w/ 1 tweet last year? Power of #socialmedia

Danny Pate Danny Pate‏@TheDPate @yotwells My tweet was nothing about MTB & everything to do with TummyD, like usual not caring that he was doing what he knew was wrong

Wonder how much animosity there is between these two?

Guess that means masters swimmers should be on the lookout for a future appearance from TomD.

As for Todd Wells? Nothing like aiding and abetting.

Some.People.Just.Don't.Get.It.

Dave.

 

[robow7]

Funny as I read this thread, at this very moment in the right upper hand corner of this page is a flashing ad of Tommy D and his Core Advantage, "Core strength for cycling's winning edge"

Now that's irony!

 

[thehog]

I'm putting this here because of the following twitter post. I'm assuming Danny's comments are in regards to Tom's doping; but I'm surprised to see that this tweet didn't cause more commentary.

Todd Wells tweeted regarding the UCI and USA Cycling's recent statement on barring UCI license holders from competing in unsanctioned races which was largely brought to the attention of USA Cycling by a Danny Pate tweet (
http://velonews.competitor.com/2012...-growing-grass-roots-or-trampling-them_270056 ).

todd wellsVerified account ‏@yotwells 10 Apr
Who knew @TheDPate would have such a big impact on US MTB in 2013 w/ 1 tweet last year? Power of #socialmedia

Danny Pate Danny Pate‏@TheDPate @yotwells My tweet was nothing about MTB & everything to do with TummyD, like usual not caring that he was doing what he knew was wrong

Wonder how much animosity there is between these two?

Tommy pretends he discovered doping with Lance.

Tommy found doping long before.

Tommy shouldn't even race in Europe.

Cannot believe Vaughters gives a chump like TD a ride and not Landis.

Little TommyD is a lightweight.

He's the reason drugs are bad. You cannot have guys like him riding GTs as useless as they are.

 

[TheGame]

Nothing to do with doping at all. Patey took issue with Tommy D riding an unsanctioned race because he had been prevented from riding one. So he *****ed on twitter, next thing they all got emails issuing fines.

 

[Dear Wiggo]

Nothing to do with doping at all. Patey took issue with Tommy D riding an unsanctioned race because he had been prevented from riding one. So he *****ed on twitter, next thing they all got emails issuing fines.

Any idea what the other things Pate hints at that Tommy D does that are wrong?

 

[D-Queued]

I wonder if any other former teammates of Danny's are dopers?

I wonder if he will tell?

Dave.

 

[FXDGEAR]

Nothing to do with doping at all. Patey took issue with Tommy D riding an unsanctioned race because he had been prevented from riding one. So he *****ed on twitter, next thing they all got emails issuing fines.

I think there's more to it than that because Danny's tweet addressed Tom specifically and he didn't mention the UCI or USA Cycling and the policy on unsanctioned racing. Danny's original tweet may have been a reaction to him not being able to race an unsanctioned event and Tom racing the Teva Games, but that was almost a year ago. I could be missing something in terms of Danny's intention; but his latest tweet mentions that he's not taking issue with the sport - only Tom.

 

[pedaling squares]

Take it up with TD or take it up with the governing bodies, but don't tweet your discontent like the last girl to get cut from the cheerleading squad. #coward

 

[Dear Wiggo]

Take it up with TD or take it up with the governing bodies, but don't tweet your discontent like the last girl to get cut from the cheerleading squad. #coward

Irony: guy on forum posting anonymously calls actual name Twitter user coward.

 

[D-Queued]

Take it up with TD or take it up with the governing bodies, but don't tweet your discontent like the last girl to get cut from the cheerleading squad. #coward

Double Irony: Take it up with the governing bodies?

You mean like the UCI?



Dave.

 

[131313]

Take it up with TD or take it up with the governing bodies, but don't tweet your discontent like the last girl to get cut from the cheerleading squad. #coward

That's a pretty typical omerta-like response. He had every right to make the comment that he did, and frankly doing in a public forum like that probably makes more sense than going to the governing body directly. At least there's some accountability and the whole thing doesn't just get swept under the rug.

This is totally about doping, BTW. Danielson was suspended, and he was still racing. Shame on the promoter for letting him in the race, and to Vaughters and the organization at Slipstream for not putting him out of competition. It makes a mockery of the whole thing. It also ends up punishing the folks putting on "unsanctioned" races but who respect USAC and USADA sanctions. If this were an OBRA race, he wouldn't have been allowed to participate.

It's easy to blame Pate for the sh!tstorm that came down on OBRA et al, but he's not the cause of the problem. That would be on Danielson and the people who let him race. Wells is missing the point. Then again, that's not surprising. Being that Wells and Danielson were both coached by Rick Crawford, I'm not surprised that they have ties that bind...

 

[Granville57]

If you really want to dim your view of Pate, sit down and watch Blood, Sweat and Gears.

The guy comes off as a complete and total d-bag the way he treats his adorable girlfriend at the time (they were separated by the final credits ).

I know, I know, it has nothing to do with anything really. But hey, it's part of a part of a cycling documentary. I didn't make it. I just call it like I see it.

 

[pedaling squares]

Irony: guy on forum posting anonymously calls actual name Twitter user coward.

What are you doing here? Oh yeah, Pate joined Sky. I stand by my point. Pate is Danielson's peer and has easy access if he wants to debate a point with him. But no, he goes to twitter. He knows that the media will run the story. Take it up with the rider. Take it up with his team. Take it up with the sporting bodies. Then go public if you get nowhere. Tweeting, sorry that's pathetic.

Double Irony: Take it up with the governing bodies?

You mean like the UCI?



Dave.

So in a time when they are being scrutinized for acts of corruption the UCI and US Cycling are going to protect Tommy freakin' Danielson? I don't think they need to break into the coveted Eskimo market that badly.

That's a pretty typical omerta-like response...

Sure. My distaste for the indirect yet very public way Pate criticized Danielson for participating in the Teva race is exactly like a circling-the-wagons and head-in-the-sand reaction to doping within the pro peloton. Gotcha. I just can't argue with that logic.

 

[pedaling squares]

This is totally about doping, BTW. Danielson was suspended, and he was still racing.

Agreed. TD wasn't the only licencee riding in the unsanctioned race but the only one to get mentioned. Don't mind what Pate tried to do, just don't like the way he did it.

 

[D-Queued]

Agreed. TD wasn't the only licencee riding in the unsanctioned race but the only one to get mentioned. Don't mind what Pate tried to do, just don't like the way he did it.

He would make me way happier if he came clean about former teammates.

Dave.

 

[Dear Wiggo]

What are you doing here? .

I'm not calling anyone a coward. And am calling the anonymous dude pointing the finger at an actual person and calling them coward, ironic.

 

[Ferminal]

Danny loves an easy target.

 

[Dear Wiggo]

Danny loves an easy target.

The peloton does. Ricco is a prime example of that.

 

[Ferminal]

Yeh, it's the classic "non-omerta omerta".

 

[JimmyFingers]

Damned if you do and damned if you don't, so why bother trying

 

[Potomac]

Take it up with TD or take it up with the governing bodies, but don't tweet your discontent like the last girl to get cut from the cheerleading squad. #coward

Irony: guy on forum posting anonymously calls actual name Twitter user coward.

pwned! or is it soanked!

 

[Ripper]

Take it up with TD or take it up with the governing bodies, but don't tweet your discontent like the last girl to get cut from the cheerleading squad. #coward

LMMFAO!!

That is perfectly well said.

Thx

 

[Ripper]

That's a pretty typical omerta-like response. He had every right to make the comment that he did, and frankly doing in a public forum like that probably makes more sense than going to the governing body directly. At least there's some accountability and the whole thing doesn't just get swept under the rug.

This is totally about doping, BTW. Danielson was suspended, and he was still racing. Shame on the promoter for letting him in the race, and to Vaughters and the organization at Slipstream for not putting him out of competition. It makes a mockery of the whole thing. It also ends up punishing the folks putting on "unsanctioned" races but who respect USAC and USADA sanctions. If this were an OBRA race, he wouldn't have been allowed to participate.

It's easy to blame Pate for the sh!tstorm that came down on OBRA et al, but he's not the cause of the problem. That would be on Danielson and the people who let him race. Wells is missing the point. Then again, that's not surprising. Being that Wells and Danielson were both coached by Rick Crawford, I'm not surprised that they have ties that bind...

Of course he has the right to make whatever comment he wants. But his tweets tend to make him look like a whiner. Like Mr. Sour Grapes. And we know Danny don't like Tommy (OMG, it even sounds like a soap opera!)

I agree pretty much with the bolded statement, although I cannot remember when TD started his suspension ... wasn't it after the Teva Games?

PS's comments are not typical omerta.

 

[skippy]

Amazed to see this thread appear on Tuesday Evening , whilst in Lienz , so Wednesday Morn at the Partenza , i mentioned it to Marcus and other Sky Support Staff . not expecting to ride with Danny . I had ridden alongside Danny & himself ( "Sir Briggo ") on Tuesday as the Sky Team was making it's way to the TTT Start .

After riding with Pinotti and chatting about his book & the fact that i had read sections of it on Kindle . even suggested a signed copy , but he replied it still was unavailable as hardcopy in English . Then after greeting Skarpo & Ivanno , i chanced on Danny .

Related a few of the comments , raising quite a few chuckles , perhaps even hilarity , when i said there were a few who thought he was responsible for the " rule 1.2.019 " being enforced . Seems it put him in a good mood for his day . Sky certainly threw down the gauntlet with their win & third at the MTF above Levico Terme .

Notice that his excellency was petulent this arvo , with his " Tossing the bike ", to stand against the roadside ! GOOD SHOT SIR !