DAVID MILLAR and the B O A

[skippy]

David you were at Sydny 2000 Olympics and you did not podium !

What do you expect 12 years later ?

Give new blood a chance as you will be givng Oz another medal if you takethe place !

 

[L'arriviste]

David you were at Sydny 2000 Olympics and you did not podium !

What do you expect 12 years later ?

Give new blood a chance as you will be givng Oz another medal if you takethe place !

Hmm, given his past perhaps that's what he had in mind.

 

[Benotti69]

David you were at Sydny 2000 Olympics and you did not podium !

What do you expect 12 years later ?

Give new blood a chance as you will be givng Oz another medal if you takethe place !

Doing it for the money, the publicity alone makes it worth it for him to raise his profile now that he is a media friendly guy and maybe he wants some of the Brailsford magic juice so he may podium if he can steals Wiggin's or replace it with the Argyle Juice.

 

[AngusW]

David you were at Sydny 2000 Olympics and you did not podium !

What do you expect 12 years later ?

Give new blood a chance as you will be givng Oz another medal if you takethe place !

To be fair to Millar, he did win the Commonwealth Games Time Trial last year and Australia was represented at those games.

 

[happychappy]

Doing it for the money, the publicity alone makes it worth it for him to raise his profile now that he is a media friendly guy and maybe he wants some of the Brailsford magic juice so he may podium if he can steals Wiggin's or replace it with the Argyle Juice.

I think Brailsford Juice seems to be more potent than sideburn flavoured rice cakes at the moment.

 

[bobbins]

Millar should never be allowed to wear a GB jersey again, let along go to the Olympics. He's disgraced it once and should never get the chance again.

 

[ramjambunath]

Hmm, given his past perhaps that's what he had in mind.

Well played, sir.

 

[Andynonomous]

He is still part of the Omerta (he defended Contador, after Contador tested positive for Clenbuterol).

Kick him off the GB team !

 

[Mambo95]

He is still part of the Omerta (he defended Contador, after Contador tested positive for Clenbuterol).

Kick him off the GB team !

Yes, he kept the omerta code of silence by writing a 350 page book about doping in cycling.

 

[happychappy]

Yes, he kept the omerta code of silence by writing a 350 page book about how the evil foreigners forced him to dope.

 

[Martin318is]

David you were at Sydny 2000 Olympics and you did not podium !

What do you expect 12 years later ?

Give new blood a chance as you will be givng Oz another medal if you takethe place !

Never understood this concept. You send the BEST athlete that meets the requirements that you have, regardless of their age. Absurd to suggest that for a country if rider A is faster than rider B but rider A is getting old then you should send rider B.

If you want to stop him for going for other reasons then thats your perogative but performance matters, age doesn't.

 

[The Hitch]

Never understood this concept. You send the BEST athlete that meets the requirements that you have, regardless of their age. Absurd to suggest that for a country if rider A is faster than rider B but rider A is getting old then you should send rider B.

If you want to stop him for going for other reasons then thats your perogative but performance matters, age doesn't.

I agree. I don't like agism either.

In fact if a old rider is up against a new rider I will usually support the older one for whom its their last chance, than a younger one who has many yet.

 

[Martin318is]

true at the personal level - but from a nationalistic point of view, I just don't care. The goal is to win a medal for the Country so you send the best competitor you've got.

There were similar comments recently due to the return of Ian Thorpe in the pool. That he was 'taking a place from a more deserving younger swimmer'. This ignores that the only way he will go to the Olympics is if he qualifies to swim - and to do that, he has to beat other Australian swimmers, proving he is the better candidate. He may or may not make it, but if he does he'll be embarrassing that other person, sure, but he won't be 'taking someone else's place'

As to David, I think he should be allowed to ride - if he is the best candidate on performance. Yes, he was beaten in 2000, but who by?

 

[Catwhoorg]

Which Australian would be in with a chance against Tony, Fabian and Wiggins ?

Barring any crazyiness, that's the podium right there, the question is in what order.

 

[Martin318is]

Which Australian would be in with a chance against Tony, Fabian and Wiggins ?

Barring any crazyiness, that's the podium right there, the question is in what order.

No,
The question is whether David should be riding the games at all. Who podiums is irrelevant in that sense - whether another Brit could finish higher in the order than him is the point.

 

[T_S_A_R]

it's a bad rule because it gives the olympics a creditibility it doesn't deserve.

the only special thing about the olympics is a load of media rights rolled into one lucrative contract.

 

[samerics]

Yes, he kept the omerta code of silence by writing a 350 page book about doping in cycling.

+1, agree entirely.

 

[Benotti69]

it's a bad rule because it gives the olympics a creditibility it doesn't deserve.

the only special thing about the olympics is a load of media rights rolled into one lucrative contract.

Yep and none of the media has any balls to criticise the Olympic organisers.

ie double standards, how they can have McQuaid who received a lifetime ban from the Olympics be a member of the Olympic committee?

 

[Benotti69]

Yes, he kept the omerta code of silence by writing a 350 page book about doping in cycling.

Yes, he kept the omerta code of silence by writing a 350 page book about how the evil foreigners forced him to dope.

i thought the doping was a small part of his book? Not read it, yet, but he hardly spat in the soup when i thought he only named Saunier Duvall, which meant spitting on Gianetti, Ricco and Piepoli who have hardly any fans in Omerta circles.

 

[Catwhoorg]

No,
The question is whether David should be riding the games at all. Who podiums is irrelevant in that sense - whether another Brit could finish higher in the order than him is the point.

I do think the BOA 'rule' has been used as a club to beat certain atheletes whilst others get a special pass. It needs to go for fairness and transparency.

(I you had asked me a few years agao, I was 100% behind the rule. Then as I learnt of more and more exceptions made, its not a rule now, heck its barely a guideline. In addition I soften my own anti-doping position from zero tolerance ever, whilst just isn't prouctive to one which allows for rehabing offenders)

One from Millar, Froome, Dowsett to go with Wiggo.

Of those three I think Froome will get the nod for RR reasons, though you can make an argument for any of the three of them.

 

[Andynonomous]

i thought the doping was a small part of his book? Not read it, yet, but he hardly spat in the soup when i thought he only named Saunier Duvall, which meant spitting on Gianetti, Ricco and Piepoli who have hardly any fans in Omerta circles.

I think the only questions that need to be asked are :

Is he probably still a doping CHEAT ?

Does he support other CHEATS today ?

 

[Benotti69]

I think the only questions that need to be asked are :

Is he probably still a doping CHEAT ?

Does he support other CHEATS today ?

YES

and

YES

 

[Dr. Maserati]

i thought the doping was a small part of his book? Not read it, yet, but he hardly spat in the soup when i thought he only named Saunier Duvall, which meant spitting on Gianetti, Ricco and Piepoli who have hardly any fans in Omerta circles.

How big a part of his book does doping have to be to satisfy you?
It was a, indeed the recurring theme throughout his book and he mentioned a lot more than SD - as his doping started with Cofidis.

I have a lot of difficulty understanding your derision when you have not even bothered to read it.

 

[Benotti69]

How big a part of his book does doping have to be to satisfy you?
It was a, indeed the recurring theme throughout his book and he mentioned a lot more than SD - as his doping started with Cofidis.

I have a lot of difficulty understanding your derision when you have not even bothered to read it.

waiting for it to be on sale in the €1 bin

 

[happychappy]

He is still protecting the omerta. Dont be fooled.

That's exactly what I was trying to say, with less words. You should have replied to the other bloke!