Di2 or Super Record 11

[RDV4ROUBAIX]

I like the stance that Campagnolo is talking on this. They're going to let ShimaNO go though all the warranty issues, before they come back with an electronic grouppo to effectively one-up them in the next few years. After all, remember how STI turned out. It took ShimaNO the better part of 10 years to figure out a way to finally hide their shift cables.......brilliant.

 

[Black Dog]

Can I choose Suntour Superb Pro? Still think that it is best groupo ever made.

 

[Pietro]

Not SR11, but Di2 and Record10, is SR11 that much different to R10?
I look at the question as more philosophical, cable V electric
As I said, at the moment I WANT Di2 to work, but in this context I would go S11

Well, the ergonomics of 2009 Campagnolo levers is much different(much better IMO) and the shift innards are completely redesigned as well(much more simple altho still rebuildable) BUT the shift effort to go to a lower gear(bigger cog) is much lighter than 2008 and older Record/Chorus. Great improvments, BTW and the classics won by Campag 11s equipped teams seem to show it works under the pressures of racing.

 

[ElChingon]

I'm not going to say one way or the other but let me ask all of you this:

How many of you have actually ridden both?

I used the Mavic Mektronic for four years! It was da bomb! It worked great, even if the battery died you could still shift it or it would allow you to manually shift it so you weren't stuck in one gear. I have no idea why they are doing the front derailure, the rear alone is all you need.

I wish I could try the Di2 and Campy 11 but there seems to be a economy issue going around preventing me from getting both at the moment... but I'm willing to test any "test" equipment you may have lying around .

So riding Campy 10 for now, still have too many 10sp parts to just bail on it.

 

[justme]

I own and ride both regularly. The differences are significant. Without regard to personal preferences like looks, fit etc. the SR11 is great, but the Di2 is so much better.

Shimano already had the best shifting front system, and now it's even better. The rear shifts without thought. You know it's a good system because you never notice or think about the group until the front derailleur makes as noise as it shifts or trims.

I can't say a bad thing about it yet, but I may have a bad thing to say about it in a few months. The only problem I can see arising is that it may be hard to use in the winter when thick thermal gloves are required.

I've always believed that Pinarello should be equipped with Campagnolo, and mine is. But I'm about to commit a sin and replace the Super Record group with another Di2 group.

 

[MMMMMMMMM]

the idea of electronics making its way to a purely mechanical world such as cycling freaks me out! so i'd rather stick to old school and go campy! i currently ride DA though!

 

[St. Elia]

Well if you look at what the pros are riding you see that many of them are avoiding the new DA(7900) and from my count only one rider used Di2 at Pairs Roubaix.

Personally I when with Campy SR, and I am very happy with it. I also wanted to mention that I heard the US rep talk about why campy went to 11 speed and according to him it was a matter of improving the shifting speed. The did this by bring the cogs closer together which in turn left space. The could have put a spacer but thought that most people would have preferred to have more cogs. It makes sense to me.

I have had SR for about 4 or 5 months now and in this limited time I have not found anything ware out any quicker then on a 10 speed. 4000km I'm guessing?
I will have to check the chain soon I'm thinking.

Someone asked what is the difference between last years and this years Campy? besides the 11 speed thing and the ceramics and bearings in the shifters and brakes the big thing is really the shifter/brake leavers, some people have commented that they don't like the look of them but they are very comfortable and I love them!! Most people that try them also feel the same way, but to each their own.

One last thing, for sure SR is nice and elegant (read bling) but for the money you wont go wrong with Chorus.

 

[Pietro]

Well if you look at what the pros are riding you see that many of them are avoiding the new DA(7900) and from my count only one rider used Di2 at Pairs Roubaix.

Personally I when with Campy SR, and I am very happy with it. I also wanted to mention that I heard the US rep talk about why campy went to 11 speed and according to him it was a matter of improving the shifting speed. The did this by bring the cogs closer together which in turn left space. The could have put a spacer but thought that most people would have preferred to have more cogs. It makes sense to me.

I have had SR for about 4 or 5 months now and in this limited time I have not found anything ware out any quicker then on a 10 speed. 4000km I'm guessing?
I will have to check the chain soon I'm thinking.

Someone asked what is the difference between last years and this years Campy? besides the 11 speed thing and the ceramics and bearings in the shifters and brakes the big thing is really the shifter/brake leavers, some people have commented that they don't like the look of them but they are very comfortable and I love them!! Most people that try them also feel the same way, but to each their own.

One last thing, for sure SR is nice and elegant (read bling) but for the money you wont go wrong with Chorus.

Maybe a better question is Record or 7900?

Or Chorus or 7800?
At least closer in price. Few will opt for Di2 anyway due to it's $4800(last check) for an 9 iece group(#9 is the battery). Few opt for sram when stating with a frame as well..OEM for these non Euro groups is king.

 

[St. Elia]

Maybe a better question is Record or 7900?

Or Chorus or 7800?

First quote seems pretty close to a given in my book. Record! If the pros are shying away from it then I sure would. Although I have to say SR is not that much more for ceramic up grade

The second is a much closer call and really depends on what you like.

 

[Pietro]

First quote seems pretty close to a given in my book. Record! If the pros are shying away from it then I sure would. Although I have to say SR is not that much more for ceramic up grade

The second is a much closer call and really depends on what you like.

Some BB ceramic and titanium bits. I 'heard' that the main reason for Record is for sponsorship use mainly..interesting!

 

[Johnny Colnago]

Having ridden both as well I went with Campy. If you even have to ask why then go flog yourself with a Super Record Chain while praying the rosary and come back.

11 spd is a good idea..if you can afford a new chain every 500km.

New chain every 500km? lol
Don't hate cuz u rolling 3-deep with a sturmey-archer punk.