Do spoilers in a race thread get your goat?

[aphronesis]

An Irishman walks into a race thread and gives away classified information about another race that's taking place at the same time.
Do you get neurotic that the other race has been ruined for you or do you congratulate him on being an Irishman?

I guess the second part of the question would pose its own problems in certain contexts.

I’ve mentioned elsewhere that it’s not something I’ve done or do, or am bothered by. It strikes me as differing sensibilities in terms of being upset at the possibility of exposure devoid of context. Cycling obviously maybe doesn’t have the range of significations found in more aesthetic cultural forms, but the effects of commentary can be similar. I may seek something out films, books, events, food based on others’ commentary or in spite of it (as when a writer is biased in ways that limit what they say and the questions they ask.

The same (for me) applies to cycling. When or if I follow race threads, it’s to learn from posters who have different perspectives, interests, emphases, bodies of knowledge than I have or do and I’ve watched various races knowing the outcome but not having seen the how. Someone running into a room to yell that rider Y just won the other race is potentially rude and puerile. On the other hand, it might save some time allow an easier restructuring of time that week.

Comparative statements such as rivals rider X and rider Y (in contemporaneous races) look like a tighter/more unevenoverhyped competition for next month’s matchup could be more useful on various levels. That’s not a lot different than a discussion with someone about new cultural forms and you or the other person (who’s familiar ) relate them to past examples to clarify the conversation. There can be tact and discretion optimally but in some contexts it’s a bit irrelevant.

Etc. Sensibilities and modes of consumption. In that regard, my disagreement is with software engineers designing ways and cultures for people to edit themselves rather than the more useful route of them learning it themselves.

 

[topcat]

I guess the second part of the question would pose its own problems in certain contexts.

I’ve mentioned elsewhere that it’s not something I’ve done or do, or am bothered by. It strikes me as differing sensibilities in terms of being upset at the possibility of exposure devoid of context. Cycling obviously maybe doesn’t have the range of significations found in more aesthetic cultural forms, but the effects of commentary can be similar. I may seek something out films, books, events, food based on others’ commentary or in spite of it (as when a writer is biased in ways that limit what they say and the questions they ask.

The same (for me) applies to cycling. When or if I follow race threads, it’s to learn from posters who have different perspectives, interests, emphases, bodies of knowledge than I have or do and I’ve watched various races knowing the outcome but not having seen the how. Someone running into a room to yell that rider Y just won the other race is potentially rude and puerile. On the other hand, it might save some time allow an easier restructuring of time that week.

Comparative statements such as rivals rider X and rider Y (in contemporaneous races) look like a tighter/more unevenoverhyped competition for next month’s matchup could be more useful on various levels. That’s not a lot different than a discussion with someone about new cultural forms and you or the other person (who’s familiar ) relate them to past examples to clarify the conversation. There can be tact and discretion optimally but in some contexts it’s a bit irrelevant.

Etc. Sensibilities and modes of consumption. In that regard, my disagreement is with software engineers designing ways and cultures for people to edit themselves rather than the more useful route of them learning it themselves.

I couldn't agree more.

 

[jmdirt]

Tbf, if you decide to read the race thread before watching the race.... And then get upset by spoilers you're not the sharpest tool in the shed.

This is like blaming the news for spoiling the outcome of the race, you know it's gonna be in there...

Either I'm still confused, or now you are.

 

[hrotha]

You know what's more entitled than complaining about race spoilers in unrelated threads? Complaining that your fundamental right to post race spoilers in unrelated threads is being infringed upon

I don't care either way. Hell, I don't even watch races, I've transcended to a higher plane of cycling fandom. But if some people don't care and some are bothered by it and it ruins even a tiny percentage of their enjoyment then it's a question of basic decorum IMO. It's so easy not to do it

 

[RedheadDane]

And I'd say that somebody demanding others change their entire way of enjoying and consuming the sport to accommodate their desire to post spoilers is far more entitled than expecting others to show a modicum of respect for their fellow forum users, who don't all have the facility to watch seven races simultaneously like RHD.

Has anyone ever expressed a desire to make cross-thread posts? Some of us are just pointing out that sometimes people simply make an honest mistake, especially since most cross-thread posts aren't of the "observation regarding a team winning multiple races in a day" type, but rather the "got the threads mixed up" type.
Also, I don't think I have ever watched seven races simultaneously. At most, I might have watched seven races in a day, but never all at the same time. Especially since those days usually feature a Men's and Women's edition of the same race, and having those at the same time... kinda complicated.
But it's actually quite easy, in theory:
All you have to do is start all streams available, and then jump between streams until you lose track of time and space and how many legs you have.

 

[VO2 Max]

I think about the Empire Strikes Back and its now non-existant plot twist - who got to decide that there was noone left who didn't already know what happened so it was ok to publicly spoiler it? We're all busy people right, maybe someone hasn't had time to watch their recording of MSR from last saturday yet, who knows?