Does Nibali like the shenanigans from PS??

[maxmartin]

Nibali seems like a really nice guy, I will be totally ****ed by the actions from PS. This has happened quite a few times. Will this keep happening??

 

[cineteq]

Nibali seems like a really nice guy, I will be totally ****ed by the actions from PS. This has happened quite a few times. Will this keep happening??

He loves it.
http://video.gazzetta.it/parole-siciliano-vittoria-sagan/4908bafc-6ad1-11e1-9525-73962b4a9874

 

[maxmartin]

can you give a summary? Don't know much Italian.

He loves it.
http://video.gazzetta.it/parole-siciliano-vittoria-sagan/4908bafc-6ad1-11e1-9525-73962b4a9874

 

[Parrulo]

can you give a summary? Don't know much Italian.

some quotes

"very hard stage, 250k and 7 hours and 20 minutes on the saddle so almost a san-remo"

"i am in great condition, i was very well in argentina and oman so i arrived here on a very good condition. today was a very hard stage peter has been fantastic, i have done third, it would have been better for GC if i could have done second (implying bones seconds ofc)"

"i am very happy, all the guys did great which is good cus it means we are doing well, agnoli, oss, sagan. . . ." gets interrupted by the journalist that asks " sagan is riding very well what did you think when he passed you?"

nibbles laughs and unfortunately i didn't got much of what he said but he did say "peter is very instinctive" so despite being a little disappointed for not winning himself he doesn't appear to be mad with sagan at all more like disappointed about his own performance. with the very instinctive part i think he means sagan is still very young and sometimes lets himself be a little too much carried away by the thrill of the win and doesn't think about the team tactics like he should, but like i said he didn't appear to be mad at all.

then he says that win and a bad start ruined the TTT for him and that tomorrow is a day for him and he will try to do everything even tho horner is riding very well.

i hope i was helpful, italian is only like my 4th language could any italian speaking fellow correct my miss interpretations please

 

[maxmartin]

thank you very much, that was very helpful

some quotes

"very hard stage, 250k and 7 hours and 20 minutes on the saddle so almost a san-remo"

"i am in great condition, i was very well in argentina and oman so i arrived here on a very good condition. today was a very hard stage peter has been fantastic, i have done third, it would have been better for GC if i could have done second (implying bones seconds ofc)"

"i am very happy, all the guys did great which is good cus it means we are doing well, agnoli, oss, sagan. . . ." gets interrupted by the journalist that asks " sagan is riding very well what did you think when he passed you?"

nibbles laughs and unfortunately i didn't got much of what he said but he did say "peter is very instinctive" so despite being a little disappointed for not winning himself he doesn't appear to be mad with sagan at all more like disappointed about his own performance. with the very instinctive part i think he means sagan is still very young and sometimes lets himself be a little too much carried away by the thrill of the win and doesn't think about the team tactics like he should, but like i said he didn't appear to be mad at all.

then he says that win and a bad start ruined the TTT for him and that tomorrow is a day for him and he will try to do everything even tho horner is riding very well.

i hope i was helpful, italian is only like my 4th language could any italian speaking fellow correct my miss interpretations please

 

[mewmewmew13]

Yes, thanx Parrulo. Interesting article.
I wish I could speak that many languages...

 

[royalpig180]

I think Nibali hasn't been too annoyed yet, but Liquigas really need to clarify their tactics so that they can avoid these situations. Having two capable riders who can go for the win is great for the team as they can attack and counterattack, but it needs to be done correctly. Of all the instances I've seen, today was the only one where I feel Nibali has a genuine right to be mad at what Sagan did though...

 

[El Pistolero]

If this keeps up I'm 100% sure Nibali will leave Liquigas. Unless Liquigas let Sagan go which would be stupid.

 

[maxmartin]

rumor is Nibbles will move to Astana next year

If this keeps up I'm 100% sure Nibali will leave Liquigas. Unless Liquigas let Sagan go which would be stupid.

 

[Netserk]

If it wasn't for Sagan, Nibbles would have won tour of Oman (2 stages where Sagan cost him seconds).

 

[Parrulo]

rumor is Nibbles will move to Astana next year

that rumour is about 1 year and a half old already. he won't leave liqui, basso will soon retire and they will simply send sagan to race where nibali isn't in case they are not getting along.

like i said last year when that rumour first showed up, nibali is the fan favourite of the italians on the strongest italian team that does everything with him in mind( 1 ride by sagan doesn't suddenly changes that) astana doesn't has a nearly as strong support as liqui, isn't italian and has kreuziguer who left because he didn't want to ride for nibali and basso despite both of them being stronger then him.

 

[El Pistolero]

that rumour is about 1 year and a half old already. he won't leave liqui, basso will soon retire and they will simply send sagan to race where nibali isn't in case they are not getting along.

like i said last year when that rumour first showed up, nibali is the fan favourite of the italians on the strongest italian team that does everything with him in mind( 1 ride by sagan doesn't suddenly changes that) astana doesn't has a nearly as strong support as liqui, isn't italian and has kreuziguer who left because he didn't want to ride for nibali and basso despite both of them being stronger then him.

Astana offered him a €4.000.000 contract for 2 years

Astana has better support in the mountains as well. That's a fact.

 

[The Hitch]

If it wasn't for Sagan, Nibbles would have won tour of Oman (2 stages where Sagan cost him seconds).

Nothing some big pulls in the Tour wont fix.

 

[hfer07]

that rumour is about 1 year and a half old already. he won't leave liqui, basso will soon retire and they will simply send sagan to race where nibali isn't in case they are not getting along.

like i said last year when that rumour first showed up, nibali is the fan favourite of the italians on the strongest italian team that does everything with him in mind( 1 ride by sagan doesn't suddenly changes that) astana doesn't has a nearly as strong support as liqui, isn't italian and has kreuziguer who left because he didn't want to ride for nibali and basso despite both of them being stronger then him.

What I cannot comprehend is that Basso gets to choose the better domestiques over Nibali-there is just this lack of coordination on who's priorities should be embraced & what needs to be done to get the best of the situation. Basso just failed massively in P-N while Nibbs should have had a stronger team to support him in the TTT...
As far a s rumors go- I also heard he was contacted by "Sky"...

 

[El Pistolero]

Nothing some big pulls in the Tour wont fix.

Sagan is going to ride for his own chances at the Tour. He always has raced for his own chances in most races he entered. I don't expect that to change this year. He's a selfish cyclist, eager to win whenever he can.

 

[Parrulo]

What I cannot comprehend is that Basso gets to choose the better domestiques over Nibali-there is just this lack of coordination on who's priorities should be embraced & what needs to be done to get the best of the situation. Basso just failed massively in P-R while Nibbs should have had a stronger team to support him in the TTT...
As far a s rumors go- I also heard he was contacted by "Sky"...

i guess basso still has some sort of status inside the team but he usually only takes smydz with him while nibali takes agnoli and cappechi, which didn't happen for TA this as cappechi went to PN.

as for moving to astana, i guess money would be the only thing they can offer that liqui can't. and what support does astana has? brajkovic and kreuziguer are supposed to be leaders atm and i highly doubt they will enjoy working for nibali and other then them they have tiralongo. . . . sorry but i would choose the liquitrain over astana faster then a blink of an eye.

they just need to start sending sagan with basso instead of sending him with nibali, basso hardly ever wins anyway

 

[Carols]

they just need to start sending sagan with basso instead of sending him with nibali, basso hardly ever wins anyway

This!

+10 char

 

[Martina]

as for moving to astana, i guess money would be the only thing they can offer that liqui can't. and what support does astana has? brajkovic and kreuziguer are supposed to be leaders atm and i highly doubt they will enjoy working for nibali and other then them they have tiralongo. . . . sorry but i would choose the liquitrain over astana faster then a blink of an eye.

Kreuziger has contract only till the end of this season and I doubt he will want to stay there. Omega-QuickStep is getting most of Czech and Slovak riders.
As Brajkovich - no idea, but he is not desperate type of guy accepting 1-year contract, so probably will be in Astana next year too.

 

[Mambo95]

Kreuziger has contract only till the end of this season and I doubt he will want to stay there.

I read somewhere that he's getting really stupid money at Astana. If they offer him that again he'll be an idiot to leave.

 

[Arnout]

that rumour is about 1 year and a half old already. he won't leave liqui, basso will soon retire and they will simply send sagan to race where nibali isn't in case they are not getting along.

like i said last year when that rumour first showed up, nibali is the fan favourite of the italians on the strongest italian team that does everything with him in mind( 1 ride by sagan doesn't suddenly changes that) astana doesn't has a nearly as strong support as liqui, isn't italian and has kreuziguer who left because he didn't want to ride for nibali and basso despite both of them being stronger then him.

Exactly, Nibali won't go anywhere. I hope he won't, he's the one thing that's stands between passion and indifference about cycling in Italy at the moment.

 

[maxmartin]

4 millions 2 years from astana
http://www.cyclingnews.com/news/sagan-wins-at-nibalis-expense

Kreuziguer might leave the end of the seanson and he has not proved he could be a strong team leader in Astana

Brajkovic is obsessed with tour, so he and nibali can do different race program without any conflict

i guess basso still has some sort of status inside the team but he usually only takes smydz with him while nibali takes agnoli and cappechi, which didn't happen for TA this as cappechi went to PN.

as for moving to astana, i guess money would be the only thing they can offer that liqui can't. and what support does astana has? brajkovic and kreuziguer are supposed to be leaders atm and i highly doubt they will enjoy working for nibali and other then them they have tiralongo. . . . sorry but i would choose the liquitrain over astana faster then a blink of an eye.

they just need to start sending sagan with basso instead of sending him with nibali, basso hardly ever wins anyway