Dog repellents?

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Big Mac said {{Are you sure you're not trolling here? This whole situation seems odd. And this comment... no words.

Where do you plan to get the urine? Politely ask those predatory animals to **** in a jar? Roll on their urine in the woods? From black-market?

And would you bath yourself in such thing before each ride?
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This is a legitimate question and I'm just asking to see if maybe somebody has some experience with it and is it even a practical idea. Just to show you it is possible, here are some links which retail the stuff.
http://www.thepeemart.com/
http://www.predatorpee.com/
 
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bear vs dog spray

An FYI: the "bear spray" , which I have purchased and used in another context, is very different. It shoots a BIG cloud of repellent, which is what you'd want if a bear is charging at you. If deployed while riding a bike, given your movement and wind etc chances are you would be "shooting yourself", so to speak. It is not controllable. The dog sprays shoot a nice aim-able stream.

After several years of dog issues, in a farm country environment, I came to the conclusion that the most important factor was MY attitude. Dogs can read us much more easily than we can read them. They can tell if we're angry, fearful, or dangerously aggressive. All we know about a barking dog is that its 1) a dog and 2) its barking.

Do like Caesar Milan says, be calm and assertive (with pepper spray handy just in case).
 
rickshaw said:
After several years of dog issues, in a farm country environment, I came to the conclusion that the most important factor was MY attitude. Dogs can read us much more easily than we can read them. They can tell if we're angry, fearful, or dangerously aggressive. All we know about a barking dog is that its 1) a dog and 2) its barking.

Do like Caesar Milan says, be calm and assertive (with pepper spray handy just in case).
Word, and high-five!

Btw., I apologize to you, ridein, I didn't mean to come off as snarky.
 
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BigMac said:
Are you sure you're not trolling here? This whole situation seems odd. And this comment... no words.

Where do you plan to get the urine? Politely ask those predatory animals to **** in a jar? Roll on their urine in the woods? From black-market?

And would you bath yourself in such thing before each ride?


...seriously.

FYI - you can probably buy such product, totally legal, online. Hunters or gardener's forums.
 
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ridein said:
Thanks for your honest reply, unlike "Tricycle Rider" snarky replies
Regarding your points:
1) Yes, Halt did have some effect and I aimed for the eyes whenever they were less than 8 feet away.
2) No, not a specific dog. It seems that people in the country don't really care where their dog(s) roam, therefore I'm the one that has to discipline them.
3) It seems to me the dogs are guarding their owner's property, since the strays typically won't chase after me.
4) So you're saying how dogs act to each other is directly translatable to how humans respond to them?
Another idea I had for a dog repellent was to use a predatory animal urine like mountain lion, wolf or bear. Although I might end up smelling pretty bad myself for the rest of the ride.

BigMac said:
Are you sure you're not trolling here? This whole situation seems odd. And this comment... no words.

Where do you plan to get the urine? Politely ask those predatory animals to **** in a jar? Roll on their urine in the woods? From black-market?

And would you bath yourself in such thing before each ride?


...seriously.

Cool links to urine supplies! :D Man o man! Love it! Laughing!

Ok - back to biz.

General dog response - a bunch of dogs where you are seem to be in guarding behavior out into the street and it is acceptable to the local culture where you are. Ok, I can believe that. Matter-of-fact, I think I've lived in such neighborhoods. Yeah - I can see it - strays don't chase - only guarding dogs chase. Ok.

And, Halt type sprays have a single stream to aim, not a "cloud". Based on the responses here, the "bear" spray is a dispersed cloud. That has disadvantages when you are riding, because, by definition, the air you are spraying into whilst riding is moving. With Halt, like I said, I had problems making sure I HIT the target dog. I more often did not hit the dog. It isn't easy to aim this skinny little single stream spray backwards at a target you can't be looking at while you are also looking at the road in front of you.

So, at this point, I will divide the problem into two forks. Is the problem not hitting the dogs with the spray? Or is the problem that the dogs are resistant to the spray. If they are resistant, the obvious first choice is to try a different spray - and I go back to ammonia. Ammonia is a traditional repellant - and I have respect for tradition. I would not be shy with the concentration, either. Ammonia is a byproduct of natural processes - as urine and ****e break down, ammonia is produced.

If the problem is that the dogs are not getting hit (which I discount based on your testimony) - then we need to change how we spray, eh?

As for dogs responding to body language - yes - they do. They respond to ppl co-opting dog body language. Maybe not as much as we want - but it does work as part of "the mix". I've spent the last 5 years training a couple of dogs, and in the process learning a lot about training dogs. I already knew more than average about training dogs, because I grew up in a family with a parent who was breeding and training dogs. But, for the first time in 40 years, I have added to what I learned way back then about training dogs. Yeah, they respond to my body language, but no, it isn't like a universal command. Some dogs respond better than others. It is a part of the story - not the theme, ok?
 
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Just went to one of the pee sites. Interesting. However, I don't think dogs are going to be a good candidate for discouragement from chasing by using one of these urine odors. One sites sez dogs will be afraid of bear pee - but I know for a fact that many dogs will respond in a hunting/guarding aggressive manner to bears. Seen it. Not but a month or two past, amof. If it hadn't been for the fence, and for the fact that black bears generally avoid aggression, I could easily be writing about a very different outcome.
 
I love how you're absolutely laboring over this one, hiero2, you must be a fellow dog lover?

Having said that, is there any scent that each and every dog would be totally offended by?

If there is such a thing I would make a cartridge of it, and that cartridge you could just somehow temporarily attach to your bike when you're riding past the troublesome area. (Once you're done you could just put it into some kind of container that would not frighten off all of living kind.)

It's just an idea, anyway, I'm sure someone has already thought of it.
 
Oh man, this is almost like giving birth to some kind of a super-behaved puppy...

Another idea might be using high frequency dog whistles. (If the frequency is too high, it may be painful for the dog to listen to. So with any luck the dog will leave you alone once you whistle.)

It's just yet another idea, anyway... like humans, no dog will respond the same to the same type of treatment.
 
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Tricycle Rider said:
I love how you're absolutely laboring over this one, hiero2, you must be a fellow dog lover?

you think a dog lover would wish to squirt nasty stuff into a dogs eyes?

reading this thread I must add members need to 'man up' and just get out

and ride

it's a sad indictment of our advanced modern society that there those who

wish to remove any danger

Mark L
 
Nov 23, 2012
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ebandit said:
you think a dog lover would wish to squirt nasty stuff into a dogs eyes?

reading this thread I must add members need to 'man up' and just get out

and ride

it's a sad indictment of our advanced modern society that there those who

wish to remove any danger

Mark L
This man already takes risks such as getting into traffic already, but I would rather manage my risks than jumping headfirst into a worst case scenario.
The worst example I know, was stated earlier, is below.
"A dog at the top of a climb is even worse. I knew a guy who needed a year off work to recover from his injuries after a large dog attacked him at the top of a steep climb. He was in good shape (eventually a RAAM rider), but couldn't get enough speed to get away."