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Dopers are back what can we expect???

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dblueroom said:
it is unfortunate that doping is part of the sport - there will always be riders that take chances. I think a lot of names are associated with doping, but there has be to proof (same as convict someone of guilty). giving the longevity of a rider's career, the penalty could be increased to discourage such an offense. i believe some are genuine mistakes, while others are serial offenders that are determined to cheat the system. of course i have mixed feelings towards Rasmussen (though i can't say he's doped), Vinokourov, but I think they're both extraordinarily talented, they make the tour much more exciting, and I want to see them able to compete next year.
some are genuine mistakes? How naive are you?

The only mistakes made were getting caught.
 
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laura.weislo said:
Sorry guys, the reason we have a Clinic has nothing to do with advertisers and everything to do with forum members who wish to talk about racing without having every thread deteriorate into a discussion such as this - filled with speculation about who is doping.

I agree, however that a discussion of riders returning from bans and how they perform is important. But... since most bans are for doping this will stay in The Clinic.

Thanks for understanding.

I disagree with this decision. This is a racing discussion as these individuals are convicted cheats who will be entering races again. I respect all forum members, but in light of this decision will CN be dropping coverage of convicted cheats? Or are they now part of racing again?
 
biker77 said:
I disagree with this decision. This is a racing discussion as these individuals are convicted cheats who will be entering races again. I respect all forum members, but in light of this decision will CN be dropping coverage of convicted cheats? Or are they now part of racing again?

How awfully patronising... The OP specifically asked if they will be repeat offenders or whether they will remain clean... If that isn't doping discussion what is? As a collective it will be impossible to talk about this group without it being a doping topic. If you wanted to discuss prospects then I'm sure you could get away with a "what performances can we expect from Basso" etc thread.
 
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Ferminal said:
How awfully patronising... The OP specifically asked if they will be repeat offenders or whether they will remain clean... If that isn't doping discussion what is? As a collective it will be impossible to talk about this group without it being a doping topic. If you wanted to discuss prospects then I'm sure you could get away with a "what performances can we expect from Basso" etc thread.

Patronizing to who? I agree the clininc has its purpose, but would argue it is where the most knowledgeable people (excluding myself) on this forum post. The rest of the forum should be for anyone to discuss anything related to cycling, but you cannnot seperate a bike race from the convicted dopers who are in that race.