Doping in other sports?

[Benotti69]

Joey Barton breaks footballs omerta!

“It’s there; all you have to do is look,” he insists.

“For example, have you ever wondered how some of the top Italian league players have played at such a high level for so long, this is a bunch of players at the top who are (or were, when playing) fast heading towards 40 and running around like someone in their early 30s, and playing up to 80 games each season.

those dirty non anglo-saxons?

not so!

“An England international told me about ‘vitamin’ injections that the England team were administered during the 1998 World Cup,” adds Barton.

“This guy took one before the Argentina game and describes the feeling as though he couldn’t run out of energy. Vitamin C, maybe?

I doubt it wa Vitamin C.

But well done Joey or daring to raise the subjet in one of the richest sports!

http://road.cc/content/news/68980-a...-only-sport-drugs-problem-says-top-footballer

 

[Zultronova]

Boxer Erik Morales fails drug test :

http://espn.go.com/boxing/story/_/i...y-garcia-barclays-center-saturday-sources-say

 

[kottila]

Anyone have a meaning about which sports that do the best work against doping?

 

[Cyivel]

No idea if this is the right thread but whatever, boxer David Price talking about drug testing in boxing.

http://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/0/boxing/20068384

 

[Tyler'sTwin]

"It's a pretty intense system"

The hilarity continues...

Serena Williams: "Stringent enough is putting it mildly. People show up at my house at five in the morning trying to test me. You never know when they come. Yeah, I get tested a lot. I don't know about the other players, but for me it's a pretty intense system, and I know a lot of the players feel the same way."

Testing has been anything but "intense" for Serena. She was not tested out-of-competition by the ITF or the USADA in either 2010 and 2011. The ITF tested her between 1-3 times in-competition in 2011 and 7+ times in-competition in 2010.

Also, I'd note that Serena says people are "trying to test" her. How often do they succeed?

http://tennishasasteroidproblem.blogspot.se/2012/10/its-pretty-intense-system.html#comment-form

 

[zebedee]

Anyone have a meaning about which sports that do the best work against doping?

Probably cycling actually, but no sport can or will properly police itself really. Too much conflict of interest.

Non-sports ADO's will probably grow and take on more of the testing burden as well as investigate doping issues within individual sports, USADA-style.

 

[clipperton]

right in the midst of melbourne's spring racing carnival we get this, following on from the news that at least one of the top jockeys is under investigation for betting against the horse he was riding on and a same-day scratching from the melbourne cup for an illegal treatment on the morning of the race.

http://www.theage.com.au/sport/hors...allege-widespread-epo-use-20121111-295ty.html

Trainers have come forward to allege widespread use of performance-enhancing drugs within Australia's horse racing industry.

Thoroughbred horses are being injected with the same banned substances that were once used by US cyclist Lance Armstrong during his now discredited career, the trainers say.

Some high-profile trainers even describe drug cheating in the industry as rife, a News Limited newspaper reported.

"Trainers don't think they can compete unless they get an edge," one racing identity told the newspaper.
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Another trainer said he could line-up blood-doping for $1400 per horse.

The alleged banned substances being used are EPO, a hormone that boosts red blood cell production and increases endurance, and opiate-based stimulants.

Trainers also claim the practice of "milk shaking" - or combining the drugs with sodium bicarbonate - is becoming common to mask the banned substances with officials failing to police cheating properly.

"They are terrified to get the big names," one trainer told the newspaper. "But if this has been in bike racing for 25 years, how long has it been in horse racing?"

All trainers spoke to the paper anonymously, citing safety concerns.

But Racing Victoria and Harness Racing Victoria strongly denied drug problems in the industry.

"We have a robust and active testing regime in place for both EPO and opiate-based stimulants and there is no evidence to indicate the systematic use of either within the state of Victoria," Racing Victoria's integrity manager Dayle Brown told the paper.

The state government announced $4 million in funding last year to help the industry detect performance-enhancing drugs with more staff and upgraded laboratories.

 

[benny_profane]

Just caught this on BBC News now http://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/0/20517743

35% of tests conducted in cycling are blood tests, compared to 3% in football

 

[coinneach]

Anyone have a meaning about which sports that do the best work against doping?

The BBC recons its cycling (but this guy whose written it understands nothing about the sport):

http://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/0/20517743

Shows you how the message can be spun both ways

 

[Libertine Seguros]

Like a nice representation of the fight against drugs in football?

Athletic Club have posted their season's Controles Antidoping on their website. It makes for amusing viewing.

23/08/2012, after Athletic Club vs. HJK Helsinki in the Europa League, two players were selected for testing:
Mikel San José, Ander Iturraspe

02/09/2012, after Athletic Club vs. Real Valladolid, two players were selected for testing:
Raúl Fernández, Carlos Gurpegui

10 days between tests, a couple of players each time, seems fair enough, right? Seems weird to pick on Raúl, he's the backup goalkeeper, but Gurpegui is fair enough bearing in mind he actually failed a test a few years ago.

But then, the next testing is..........

15/12/2012, after Athletic Club vs. Real Mallorca, two players were taken for testing:
Raúl Fernández, Igor Martínez

So after three months of no testing whatsoever, they take... the sub goalkeeper again.

 

[Dear Wiggo]

15/12/2012, after Athletic Club vs. Real Mallorca, two players were taken for testing:
Raúl Fernández, Igor Martínez

So after three months of no testing whatsoever, they take... the sub goalkeeper again.

Targeted testing just took on a whole new meaning. We target the ones that will not produce anti-doping controversy.

We don't have a clue who has been tested and when in cycling, let alone their results...

 

[Libertine Seguros]

Targeted testing just took on a whole new meaning. We target the ones that will not produce anti-doping controversy.

We don't have a clue who has been tested and when in cycling, let alone their results...

Here's one for you then:

Rabobank's 30 riders took 484 tests in 2009. 304 for urine and 180 for blood. The average was 16 tests per rider. The most tested was Denis Menchov (42 times) and the least was Mauricio Ardila (5 times). Bear in mind Denis of course will have had 9 or 10 daily tests as a jersey holder at the Giro d'Italia that year. The article includes a full run-down of riders on the squad and how many times they were tested for urine and for blood.

 

[Dear Wiggo]

Here's one for you then:

Rabobank's 30 riders took 484 tests in 2009. 304 for urine and 180 for blood. The average was 16 tests per rider. The most tested was Denis Menchov (42 times) and the least was Mauricio Ardila (5 times). Bear in mind Denis of course will have had 9 or 10 daily tests as a jersey holder at the Giro d'Italia that year. The article includes a full run-down of riders on the squad and how many times they were tested for urine and for blood.

When is so important Like the soccer info "when and who". The summary is interesting, but says nothing about its efficacy.

They don't even have to release names, just the BP data for the peloton for the last 5 years would do. Date, test type, result.

 

[Alphabet]

It is funny that in a country like Australia that in the sports media, cycling will only reported about when there is a doping story. That means the general public have an attitude that cycling is the only sport that has drugs problems. The media keep that myth alive.

I think that attitude is true throughout the English speaking media. Events only receive acknowledgement if there's a local winner or if there's a doping scandal.

I should revise that, actually. Only the Grand Tours, if won by well known locals get recognition. I don't remember seeing anything about Simon Gerrans winning the Tour Down Under or Milan-San Remo on any major free-to-air network other than SBS. From memory, it got a text mention on the news ticker on ABC, and that was about it.

 

[benny_profane]

Like a nice representation of the fight against drugs in football?

Athletic Club have posted their season's Controles Antidoping on their website. It makes for amusing viewing.

23/08/2012, after Athletic Club vs. HJK Helsinki in the Europa League, two players were selected for testing:
Mikel San José, Ander Iturraspe

02/09/2012, after Athletic Club vs. Real Valladolid, two players were selected for testing:
Raúl Fernández, Carlos Gurpegui

10 days between tests, a couple of players each time, seems fair enough, right? Seems weird to pick on Raúl, he's the backup goalkeeper, but Gurpegui is fair enough bearing in mind he actually failed a test a few years ago.

But then, the next testing is..........

15/12/2012, after Athletic Club vs. Real Mallorca, two players were taken for testing:
Raúl Fernández, Igor Martínez

So after three months of no testing whatsoever, they take... the sub goalkeeper again.

wow, thanks for posting this. Are the players supposed to be randomly selected?

 

[Red Dragon]

Athletics: Six new doping cases revealed by IAAF :

http://www.globalpost.com/dispatch/news/afp/130308/athletics-six-new-doping-cases-revealed-iaaf

 

[sniper]

Athletics: Six new doping cases revealed by IAAF :

http://www.globalpost.com/dispatch/news/afp/130308/athletics-six-new-doping-cases-revealed-iaaf

FFS.
This has a strong and nasty taste of anti-East sentiments.

"Our message to cheaters is clear: there is no place to hide", IAAF president Lamine Diack said.

Please rephrase that as "our message to cheaters is clear: if you're from the West, don't worry, we're not interested in catching you".

 

[Briant_Gumble]

FFS.
This has a strong and nasty taste of anti-East sentiments.

"Our message to cheaters is clear: there is no place to hide", IAAF president Lamine Diack said.

Please rephrase that as "our message to cheaters is clear: if you're from the West, don't worry, we're not interested in catching you".

Agreed, this is BS.

If there was no place to hide then they'd re-test every sample instead of selecting a few.

 

[martinvickers]

FFS.
This has a strong and nasty taste of anti-East sentiments.

"Our message to cheaters is clear: there is no place to hide", IAAF president Lamine Diack said.

Please rephrase that as "our message to cheaters is clear: if you're from the West, don't worry, we're not interested in catching you".

How terrible - serial cheaters caught. heart bleeds

 

[sniper]

How terrible - serial cheaters caught. heart bleeds

they only caught power athletes, probably on steroids.
in 2005 arguably the field of endurance athletes was pervaded with EPO, yet they don't catch one single endurance athlete.

i must admit, though, that I'm not closely following this story.
it just smells like there is currently a strong anti-eastern european bias within the IAAF.

 

[FitSsikS]

FFS.
This has a strong and nasty taste of anti-East sentiments.

"Our message to cheaters is clear: there is no place to hide", IAAF president Lamine Diack said.

Please rephrase that as "our message to cheaters is clear: if you're from the West, don't worry, we're not interested in catching you".

..and speaking of Westerners....Canadian Dylan Armstrong (no relation ) may end up getting a bronze medal as a result of the positive tests.

 

[sniper]

..and speaking of Westerners....Canadian Dylan Armstrong (no relation ) may end up getting a bronze medal as a result of the positive tests.

yep, and there's a German hammerthrower suddenly ending up with silver where he had only a fourth place originally. Recent studies (including anonymous questionnaires among top-athletes) have shown that doping in Germany is widespread. But nobody's getting caught.

 

[blackcat]

Agreed, this is BS.

If there was no place to hide then they'd re-test every sample instead of selecting a few.

Don Caitlin issue

 

[martinvickers]

they only caught power athletes, probably on steroids.
in 2005 arguably the field of endurance athletes was pervaded with EPO, yet they don't catch one single endurance athlete.

i must admit, though, that I'm not closely following this story.
it just smells like there is currently a strong anti-eastern european bias within the IAAF.

Honestly - not really; there's a strong culture of steroid abuse in certain events in countries - note how few 'polish' busts there are, how romanian busts have declined over the years.

And hey, let's remember, they'd already caught Justin Gatlin (2005 Worlds gold 100, 200) and Rahmzi (2005 Worlds gold 600, 1500).

Look at the number of us sprinters caught over the year - now they catch fewer - but look how weak, relatively speaking, us male sprinting now is.

Look, i know you probably want them to catch Farah or Ennis or something - but be that as it may - cheats ARE cheats, and the long and the short of it is Belarus, in partuclar seems to have an epidemic of it - i think it's good to expose and try and stop that, no?

 

[cocteau_ireland]

Australian Rugby League getting exposed http://www.thestandard.com.hk/breaking_news_detail.asp?id=33179&icid=5&d_str=20130313