CentralCaliBike said:I think it is possible that he did early on, less likely after 1999 - although still possible.
So the dumping of Actovigen, Insulin, plasma bags, and 160 used syringes in the 2001 Tour was just a myth?
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CentralCaliBike said:I think it is possible that he did early on, less likely after 1999 - although still possible.
Race Radio said:So the dumping of Actovigen, Insulin, plasma bags, and 160 used syringes in the 2001 Tour was just a myth?
CentralCaliBike said:As long as you cannot reach another reasonable conclusion after reviewing all of the evidence (which happens to the criminal law standard in the United States).
Sprocket01 said:Btw the mods know I am not a troll. Time to move on from that line...
scribe said:Armstrong did that?
Sprocket01 said:That sometimes is the case, but the main offender for this type of trolling and insulting behaviour was banned after a conscientious member highlighted one of their grossly offensive posts to the moderators. I predict insults will go down by 90% now.
Race Radio said:His team Chiropractor did.
Of course the dope was for all the other team members, most who have tested positive since. Armstrong did not need to dope because he is special.
Sprocket01 said:No I was thinking about ThoughtforFood. I think the forum will clean up now.
Btw the mods know I am not a troll. Time to move on from that line...
scribe said:You sure do draw lots of conclusions from all this. But you are right, that stuff might have been used for the purpose of cheating to win by Armstrong or other people on the team or wherever else it might have come from.
Race Radio said:So the dumping of Actovigen, Insulin, plasma bags, and 160 used syringes in the 2001 Tour was just a myth?
scribe said:You sure do draw lots of conclusions from all this. But you are right, that stuff might have been used for the purpose of cheating to win by Armstrong or other people on the team or wherever else it might have come from.
Thoughtforfood said:The difference between you and I is that I was only given a 2 day sentence. You have been IP banned and still return. You are a sad, sad man.
scribe said:You sure do draw lots of conclusions from all this. But you are right, that stuff might have been used for the purpose of cheating to win by Armstrong or other people on the team or wherever else it might have come from.
scribe said:Well, if any one of a handful of you had been in charge of certifying his tour wins, this would have been laid to rest many years ago. Maybe we will get Lance next year?
Thoughtforfood said:The difference between you and I is that I was only given a 2 day sentence. You have been IP banned and still return. You are a sad, sad man.
Sprocket01 said:I can categorically say, without any shadow of a doubt, that we will never see ThoughtforFood on this forum ever a.....what the? Doh!
I have never been IP banned. But I certainly would be if I came out with the filth that you did the other night. I trust you've learnt your lesson and will clean up your act now on. If you can do that then it will still be good for the forum.
The mods say I can post as long as I don't have BPC in my name and avoid the baiting from the trolls, so I shouldn't really be talking to you or the other one that calls everyone who disagrees with him a "liar" whenever he can.
Lets start afresh and not get into any silly business from now on. The insults and baiting has to end.
Sprocket01 said:he insults and baiting has to end.
progressor said:Given what some posters are getting away with, they won't. If the parties one side of an argument don't have to abide by the same rules as others, it's not exactly going to be a first time on an internet forum. You're probably best to just harden up, or move on. It's not worth getting upset over it.
Sprocket01 said:Guys like you and I just play it clean. We don't need an unfair advantage.
I Watch Cycling In July said:I'm not disputing that a lawyer working on a case would have far more information than someone not involved in the case. Nor am I disputing that some lawyers, especially those involved in criminal prosecution, would have a reasonable working knowledge of forensic science.
What I am saying is that lawyers don't always have the ability to interpret scientific information correctly. It's kind of my high-handed dismissive way to write off anything a lawyer says about experts. The parallel with this comment "I work in the legal field and know that experts have no problem in testifying to almost anything for money", which effectively dismisses the opinion of experts, was not accidental.
Sprocket01 said:Guys like you and I just play it clean. We don't need an unfair advantage.
progressor said:Dude, I shouldn't play at all, The temptation just gets to great
But given this is a pro cycling forum, surely nothing is wrong with an unfair advantage as long as you can get away with it ?
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Sprocket01 said:Lets start afresh and not get into any silly business from now on. The insults and baiting has to end.