Dr. Michael Ashenden's testimony ?

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SpartacusRox said:
Fanyboy babble

That was no panel, that was a friend of Verbruggen's who made his living defending dopers.

The Non-Groupies agreed with WADA

“The Vrijman report is so lacking in professionalism and objectivity that it borders on farcical,”“Were the matter not so serious and the allegations it contains so irresponsible, we would be inclined to give it the complete lack of attention it deserves.”
WADA was astonished the UCI “would expect anyone to have the slightest confidence in the objectivity, methodology, analysis or conclusions of such a report.”
 
thehog said:
I heard Asheden finished last in his class.

thehog said:
I was taking the p1ss. I love the guy. I'm surprised the UCI keep him on the payroll.

If it makes you feel better, Hog, I got your joke the first time round - and liked it...


Escarabajo said:
Wast that flicker posting in the comments section? LOL.

Is it just me or does Flicker make more sense when posting there? The second post by him was actually coherent and contained arguable points... Off topic, but anyway...


Oldbiker said:
Sometimes HOG you make sense but not this time. Your post was trivial BS. So the donation goes to what person? the lab tech, manager, etc. come on get real. You may be an Aussie but that should not make you say stupid stuff.

Who are your sources from 24 years ago... oh I get it, you are just taking the pi$$ again.

That good, son - let it all out - feeling better now?

So you haven't heard about the donation(s) to the UCI/Hein? You know, the one where they have a receipt you can travel to their headquarter to be allowed to glance at from across the room if you book a time. The one where they can't agree on the amount, but which is supposed to be anything from 25k to half-a-mill. Don't worry about, cos then you probably haven't heard about the payments to the labs either.

I will agree with you, however, on the point about doping since 16 - to me it seems more credible he started while on Motorola, sort of 95...
 

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Berzin said:
This panel right here...

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Oh yeah baby I got me my 15 minutes of fame, the flicker
 
flicker said:
Oh yeah baby I got me my 15 minutes of fame, the flicker

I edited the name of the panel to give it more gravitas.

"Apologist" gives your panel an air of seriousness and professionalism. "Fanboy" is juvenile and really doesn't do justice to the relentlessly psychotic crusade you three are on to sweep the truth under the rug.
 

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hey I will do anything for you. Please just don't take a pee test within 14 days of my last post. And never ever a hair folicle test, till I take a quick" chemical shower"
 

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Race Radio said:
That was no panel, that was a friend of Verbruggen's who made his living defending dopers.

The Non-Groupies agreed with WADA

“The Vrijman report is so lacking in professionalism and objectivity that it borders on farcical,”“Were the matter not so serious and the allegations it contains so irresponsible, we would be inclined to give it the complete lack of attention it deserves.”
WADA was astonished the UCI “would expect anyone to have the slightest confidence in the objectivity, methodology, analysis or conclusions of such a report.”

Lol how surprising that WADA would respond in such a fashion. Of course it feeds into your myopic view of the world. By the way, who won damages from that?? One gets the feeling that no panel would satisfy you RR unless of course they told you what you wanted to hear. Bit sad really.

By the way...using a bigger font doesn't add more weight to your weak response.
 

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python said:
lol berzin !

the monkey on the left should be super sized.

Ahh, Python. A snake by name and a snake by nature, still slithering through the forums depositing your venomous little snipes.:rolleyes:
 
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i am happy the truth cut through you paper thin skin and send your brain into angry rage. :D Check the panel pick of yourself again, supervised monkey:D
 
SpartacusRox said:
Lol how surprising that WADA would respond in such a fashion. Of course it feeds into your myopic view of the world. By the way, who won damages from that?? One gets the feeling that no panel would satisfy you RR unless of course they told you what you wanted to hear. Bit sad really.

By the way...using a bigger font doesn't add more weight to your weak response.
Spartacus, who cares about what WADA said about the The Vrijman report. I have a question: Do you think Lance was clean in the 1999 Tour?

If you answer is No, then why bother arguing about a report.

Now if your answer is yes, then I think you have serious issues about doping denial. Just saying. Note that not even the Lance fans think that he was clean.
 
Aug 13, 2009
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SpartacusRox said:
Lol how surprising that WADA would respond in such a fashion. Of course it feeds into your myopic view of the world. By the way, who won damages from that?? One gets the feeling that no panel would satisfy you RR unless of course they told you what you wanted to hear. Bit sad really.

By the way...using a bigger font doesn't add more weight to your weak response.

You still appear to be confused. There was no "Panel" there were no damages.

There are few rational people that still believe that Armstrong was clean. You have even said that he doped. Your willingness to embarrass yourself for your hero is impressive.
 
Race Radio said:
You still appear to be confused. There was no "Panel" there were no damages.

There are few rational people that still believe that Armstrong was clean. You have even said that he doped. Your willingness to embarrass yourself for your hero is impressive.

Hey, get off LA. He has a likeable credibility!

Or at least that's what I've heard...
 
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Oldbiker said:
Sometimes HOG you make sense but not this time. Your post was trivial BS. So the donation goes to what person? the lab tech, manager, etc. come on get real..

Oldbiker, why is this so hard to understand. The money goes to Mr. Verbruggen (now Mr. McQuaid). No post-dated checks, please. This was in the days before WADA had to be notified as well as the UCI, correct? So "the buck stopped" right at the desk of the UCI director. Easy.

Further, hasn't Bernard Kohl explained that he and his manager used to pay labtechs $100 on the side to "test" tainted samples (so they could figure out the 'threshhold' at which samples would trip a positive). A labtech is simply a poorly-paid worker w/ bills to pay. They are not going to lose their job by telling the media about how Armstrong's postive was buried.

Besides, if they did, it would just be brushed off, b/c Lance would tell us all that the whistleblower was simply a disgruntled employee w/ a drinking problem. ;)
 
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Oldman said:
WADA may have tiny muscles but providing evidence for an 800 lb gorilla is dramatic . . .The size of the UCI's Governing male member is shrinking quicker than George Costanza's in the Hampton's autumn surf . . .

Now, THAT'S colorful imagery. Beautiful! Had to wipe the tears from my eyes I laughed so hard!