Eneco Tour

[Waterloo Sunrise]

Quick question - do they have time bonnifications?


Just wondering whether Boassen can steal a march on the other time trialists with some sprints? If there's 20seconds for a win, you'd have to think he'll get 40 seconds worth of bonuses across the sprint stages, which should be more than enough to defend over 20Km of TTing.

 

[Libertine Seguros]

20-12-8 time bonifications are only really typical of Grand Tours. Usually it's 10-6-4 outside of them.

 

[Waterloo Sunrise]

Ta!

Pretty Colours

 

[joy118118]

they has bonuses, if the rules are the same with last years. But do you really believe EBH can get so much bonuses?

 

[craig1985]

Seems like a pretty pointless race. We already have the Tours of Belgium and Luxembourg, just bring back the Tour of Holland FFS.

 

[taiwan]

they has bonuses, if the rules are the same with last years. But do you really believe EBH can get so much bonuses?

He is at least one of the three 'best' sprinters in the race, and could take time in the TT.

 

[maltiv]

Quick question - do they have time bonnifications?


Just wondering whether Boassen can steal a march on the other time trialists with some sprints? If there's 20seconds for a win, you'd have to think he'll get 40 seconds worth of bonuses across the sprint stages, which should be more than enough to defend over 20Km of TTing.

Ehh last year he got tons of bonus seconds from both intermediate sprints and bunch sprints, but he didn't really need them as he ended up winning the time trial and ultimately winning the race by almost a minute. You're talking like EBH is some sort of bad time trialist over 20 km, which he is not. Remember the last time he did a 20 km time trial he beat Cancellara.

The thing with EBH is that (purely based on observation), he always peaks in the end of one week races, which is why a final time trial suits him perfectly. If you look at his victories they're almost always in the end of a 1 week race (last stage tirreno, last stage dauphine, last stage tour of oman, two last stages eneco tour last year, stage 7 in giro).

I'm just afraid that he'll lose it in the crosswinds, as he did in 2008. Team Sky certainly don't have a good record in windy stages...

 

[Moondance]

Looks like it'll be pretty straightforward for Eddy Hagen. While with the likes of Greipel and Farrar will probably deny Hagen from winning a bunch of stages before the final TT, Eddy should be able to amass enough bonifications from placings in intermediate sprints to build up a strong enough cushion to stay ahaead of the TTers like Martin in the final 17km TT. Stage 3 is the only stage which will likely cause breaks in the peloton, and even then the damage should be limited.

I hope Koos can do something, but victory is probably well out of his reach.

 

[Waterloo Sunrise]

Ehh last year he got tons of bonus seconds from both intermediate sprints and bunch sprints, but he didn't really need them as he ended up winning the time trial and ultimately winning the race by almost a minute. You're talking like EBH is some sort of bad time trialist over 20 km, which he is not. Remember the last time he did a 20 km time trial he beat Cancellara.

The thing with EBH is that (purely based on observation), he always peaks in the end of one week races, which is why a final time trial suits him perfectly. If you look at his victories they're almost always in the end of a 1 week race (last stage tirreno, last stage dauphine, last stage tour of oman, two last stages eneco tour last year, stage 7 in giro).

I'm just afraid that he'll lose it in the crosswinds, as he did in 2008. Team Sky certainly don't have a good record in windy stages...

I really didn't intend to imply Eddy's a weak TTer - simply that if this race was purely on TT, Tony would win it, but with a small headstart Eddy should be fine.

 

[maltiv]

I really didn't intend to imply Eddy's a weak TTer - simply that if this race was purely on TT, Tony would win it, but with a small headstart Eddy should be fine.

Yea that is true, he probably needs some time on Tony Martin. Don't think he needs time on anyone else, though.

 

[joy118118]

I really didn't intend to imply Eddy's a weak TTer - simply that if this race was purely on TT, Tony would win it, but with a small headstart Eddy should be fine.

tony martin is not so good at short TT. and IMHO he wants to peak at Worlds. EBH will be in better form than him.

 

[Ryo Hazuki]

Soler wil start here so I'm definetely going to go there

 

[Libertine Seguros]

what, taking the over/under on whether he HDs the contre la montre?

 

[Vonn Brinkman]

Soler wil start here so I'm definetely going to go there

It would be awesome if he wins. Big fan of Soler!

 

[Ryo Hazuki]

I'm a fan too but he stands no chance in eneco, it's all flat and cobbles and itt

 

[Ryaguas]

Ehh last year he got tons of bonus seconds from both intermediate sprints and bunch sprints, but he didn't really need them as he ended up winning the time trial and ultimately winning the race by almost a minute. You're talking like EBH is some sort of bad time trialist over 20 km, which he is not. Remember the last time he did a 20 km time trial he beat Cancellara.

The thing with EBH is that (purely based on observation), he always peaks in the end of one week races, which is why a final time trial suits him perfectly. If you look at his victories they're almost always in the end of a 1 week race (last stage tirreno, last stage dauphine, last stage tour of oman, two last stages eneco tour last year, stage 7 in giro).

I'm just afraid that he'll lose it in the crosswinds, as he did in 2008. Team Sky certainly don't have a good record in windy stages...

Yep EBH is going to smack that TT... I'm expecting that He will beat Tony Martin... Here a look up to his results Head to Head in the TT...

I'm a fan too but he stands no chance in eneco, it's all flat and cobbles and itt

Yeah Well at least he is going to ride again... The climbs are not steep but I will expect attacks from him...

 

[meandmygitane]

Ehh last year he got tons of bonus seconds from both intermediate sprints and bunch sprints, but he didn't really need them as he ended up winning the time trial and ultimately winning the race by almost a minute. You're talking like EBH is some sort of bad time trialist over 20 km, which he is not. Remember the last time he did a 20 km time trial he beat Cancellara.

Yeah, he beat a in-form Cancellara on a typical TT-course which wasn't dominated by ascents and descents .

He is a good time-trialist but not near Cancellara (but then again who is?).

In Cancellara's absence I think Tony Martin will win easily the I.T.T. and the GC will go to EBH.
Martin has made huge improvements since last year, will be interesting to see Canc. vs Larsson vs Martin. ( Zabriskie, Wiggins, Leipheimer etc. outsiders, EBH? with a large question mark after)

 

[tgsgirl]

You're talking like EBH is some sort of bad time trialist over 20 km, which he is not. Remember the last time he did a 20 km time trial he beat Cancellara.

And twelve days earlier Cancellara had to let go of a team which included the two Haedos in a TTT. Can we please get a grip and stop using that one occasion as evidence of his TT ability? EBH is a good time trialist, but he's not top of the world.

 

[maltiv]

And twelve days earlier Cancellara had to let go of a team which included the two Haedos in a TTT. Can we please get a grip and stop using that one occasion as evidence of his TT ability? EBH is a good time trialist, but he's not top of the world.

I agree. Eneco Tour is not the top of the world, either

 

[tgsgirl]

I agree. Eneco Tour is not the top of the world, either

I never said it was.

 

[meandmygitane]

"Everything outside top 5 is a disappointment" as Dag Erik Pedersen said in the newspaper Dagbladet before EBHs ITT in Mendrisio.

In TdF2010 it was talk about multiple stage victories EACH for EBH and Hushovd.

Don't forget that EBH will win TdF next year or at least the year after that, so the Norwegian have prophesised

All perfectly normal in norwegian sportsjournalism!

EDIT: And this pearl - " Svenske Gustav Larsson tok sølv i Beijing-OL, og Edvald er ikke noe dårligere enn ham. Alt kan skje, sier Kaggestad."

Translation: "Swedish Gustav Larsson took silver in the Beijing Olympics and Edvald is at least as good. Everything can happen, says Johan Kaggestad"

Yeah, right.

 

[theyoungest]

I agree. Eneco Tour is not the top of the world, either

So it's just the kind of race for EBH to win. Last year he beat that formidable force of the time trial, Sebastian Langeveld, by 4 seconds. Let's see how he does this time.

 

[CastleSprint]

And twelve days earlier Cancellara had to let go of a team which included the two Haedos in a TTT. Can we please get a grip and stop using that one occasion as evidence of his TT ability? EBH is a good time trialist, but he's not top of the world.

I'll second that, ten times over!

Don't get me wrong, nothing against EBH. He is a good time trialist. And a good sprinter. And and and. Yes, he is very likely to win Eneco. Stats say so.

But if anything, that one occasion he beat spartacus on proves that **** will happen, no matter what the stats on CQ "say".

And in light of that, I'll say: Jos Van Emden for the prologue win, EBH for the points jersey and Devolder for the overall.

And why not? Someone put down Bozic as the overall winner on the WielerSpellen Eneco game. I wish!

 

[Dekker_Tifosi]

So it's just the kind of race for EBH to win. Last year he beat that formidable force of the time trial, Sebastian Langeveld, by 4 seconds. Let's see how he does this time.

Don't forget Hagen was already tired from the hilly stage in Limburg where he was put under severe pressure by the awesome Ardennes specialist climber Joost Posthuma.
Obviously Hagen dropped when Posthuma unleashed his develish climbing abilities on the Doode Man (1km at 10%), but thank god Hagen returned on the flat by the help of a few teammates.

However, surviving both the challenges of climbing specialist Posthuma and super time trial monster Langeveld would suggest he wins the Tour at least 5 times

 

[ingsve]

Greipel can also put out a pretty good TT on his best days so if he can get enough seconds in the sprints he could probably be in with a slight shot as well.