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All riders are given a schedule in December for the following year - Of course this can change because of form or injury - It's certain Chaves will want Howson at the TDF - And it doesn't change the fact that Orica is guarded with public pronouncements - As a recent example they publically released the team for the Herald Sun Tour the day before the race.
Mr.White said:
All riders are given a schedule in December for the following year - Of course this can change because of form or injury - It's certain Chaves will want Howson at the TDF - And it doesn't change the fact that Orica is guarded with public pronouncements - As a recent example they publically released the team for the Herald Sun Tour the day before the race.
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Orica's number one target for GC this year is a podium in the TDF - Fact is Chaves' preference is the Giro, while the Yates preference is the TDF - Fact is sponsors wish is for Chaves to ride the TDF - I have no idea what is the view of Team Management
jaylew said:
Orica's number one target for GC this year is a podium in the TDF - Fact is Chaves' preference is the Giro, while the Yates preference is the TDF - Fact is sponsors wish is for Chaves to ride the TDF - I have no idea what is the view of Team Management
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It looks like a group of coaches and cyclists from the team will be preparing and training in Colombia as well.
Basically that this Colombian Magazine, which has a long history in the cycling business, interviewed him during the Australian campaign and he said that they (him and coaches I guess) decided to go for the Tour.jaylew said:
It looks like a group of coaches and cyclists from the team will be preparing and training in Colombia as well.
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Matt White did say at the start of the TDU that the bulk of that squad would be going to the TDF, we already know that Ewan is going to the Giro and it's logical to say that Kluge goes with Ewan. The rest of that TDU team were Chaves, Howson, Durbridge, Impey and Gerrans, that looks like a good core group that goes to the TDF providing we can take what Matt White said at the TDU as gospel. Makes sense to send the Yates brothers to the Giro and Chaves to the TDF looking at the likely make-up of the Giro/TDF GC contenders and the parcours.
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Kreuziger should definitely ride over Gerrans. Gerrans should be riding Ardennes, Giro and Vuelta. I doubt that White will make that choice though.
I'd personally love to see both Gerrans and White skip the Tour and Stephens given the director's role. He's smarter on the road and seems to have a closer relationship with Chaves.
I'd personally love to see both Gerrans and White skip the Tour and Stephens given the director's role. He's smarter on the road and seems to have a closer relationship with Chaves.
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Totally agree with that, Stephens seems to be getting the best out of Chaves and if you add Hayman as road captain who has worked well with Chaves in the past and I think he's got the support on and off the road to give him the best chance to podium at the race.
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Totally agree with that, Stephens seems to be getting the best out of Chaves and if you add Hayman as road captain who has worked well with Chaves in the past and I think he's got the support on and off the road to give him the best chance to podium at the race.
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You raised an interesting discussion point - I find Stephen's places a higher priority at all times protecting the GC Rider during a GT, while White gives the support riders more rope during a GC - I'm not particularly fussed who is the DS at the TDF - Gerrans should absolutely ride the Giro and the Vuelta - Gerrans is riding MSR and should be a protected rider - It's a funny race and in form Gerrans can figure in the finish - Cort is the wildcard for the GT's - My understanding is he's not riding the TDF and will probably be held back for the Vuelta - He is being groomed as the new Matthews - Probably not quite as good uphill but faster in the sprint.
42x16ss said:
You raised an interesting discussion point - I find Stephen's places a higher priority at all times protecting the GC Rider during a GT, while White gives the support riders more rope during a GC - I'm not particularly fussed who is the DS at the TDF - Gerrans should absolutely ride the Giro and the Vuelta - Gerrans is riding MSR and should be a protected rider - It's a funny race and in form Gerrans can figure in the finish - Cort is the wildcard for the GT's - My understanding is he's not riding the TDF and will probably be held back for the Vuelta - He is being groomed as the new Matthews - Probably not quite as good uphill but faster in the sprint.
It would be nice for Cort to ride the TDF so he can compete (top 10) in some bunch sprints. Unlike Ewan he won't require any resources and he can still do a good job for Chaves.
I'd like to see Chaves, Kreuziger, Impey, one of the Yates' or Plaza, Howson, Hayman, Durbridge, Cort and then one of Bewley, Keukeleire, Jensen, Tuft or Albasini to round out the roster. If you take out one of the Yates' everyone on that team can ride to protect Chaves on the flats and he'd have 4-5 riders for the mountains.
I'd like to see Chaves, Kreuziger, Impey, one of the Yates' or Plaza, Howson, Hayman, Durbridge, Cort and then one of Bewley, Keukeleire, Jensen, Tuft or Albasini to round out the roster. If you take out one of the Yates' everyone on that team can ride to protect Chaves on the flats and he'd have 4-5 riders for the mountains.
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Cort has already stated - at least to Danish media - that he isn't gonna do the Tour this year.
Redhead Dane is correct - Cort is not riding the TDF - Outside chance for the Giro but probably the Vuelta.
Plaza is riding the Giro and Vuelta in support of GC riders and Tuft is likewise, while Haig is definitely riding Giro. - Chaves wants Bewley for the TDF but is unlikely.
Plaza is riding the Giro and Vuelta in support of GC riders and Tuft is likewise, while Haig is definitely riding Giro. - Chaves wants Bewley for the TDF but is unlikely.
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Why is he unlikely? Bewley has earned a start with how he's ridden the last few years. He's a relatively versatile diesel, who can pace all day and protect his captain. On top of this, Bewley and Chaves get along like a house on fire, they room together all the time. I see no reason for Bewley not to race any GT Chaves does TBH.yaco said:
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I can't see that Tuft is any certainty. He's about to hit 40 and this is likely to be his final year. Certainly, he has served this team most honourably and deserves to go out with due honour.
However, the entire GTfocus of the team has changed dramatically over the past 12-18 month and he was already visibly showing the strain last season. I cannot see that its the case that he offers greater utlity to the team than Bewley does. IF there was an opening TTT, that may still be a marginal tip in his favour but that would be all ..... and even that is open to debate. I have little doubt that Svein has an excellent relationship with Chaves but the relationship with Bewley is clearly at another level again ...... and it pays visible dividends out there on the road.
Like 42x16ss, its Bewley ahead of Tuft for any Chaves GT squad, or major lead-up race unless he's physically incapacitated. Maybe send Tuft to the Giro with whichever Yates is leading.
42x16ss said:
I can't see that Tuft is any certainty. He's about to hit 40 and this is likely to be his final year. Certainly, he has served this team most honourably and deserves to go out with due honour.
However, the entire GTfocus of the team has changed dramatically over the past 12-18 month and he was already visibly showing the strain last season. I cannot see that its the case that he offers greater utlity to the team than Bewley does. IF there was an opening TTT, that may still be a marginal tip in his favour but that would be all ..... and even that is open to debate. I have little doubt that Svein has an excellent relationship with Chaves but the relationship with Bewley is clearly at another level again ...... and it pays visible dividends out there on the road.
Like 42x16ss, its Bewley ahead of Tuft for any Chaves GT squad, or major lead-up race unless he's physically incapacitated. Maybe send Tuft to the Giro with whichever Yates is leading.
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hfer07 said:
Whilst its very clear that Chaves has great affinity with racing in Italy; the total ITT miles for this year's Giro are nigh double those at the Tour where they are both relatively short ..... hence his relative weakness less exposed.
As a GT contender, he was going to need to get his feet wet at some stage with regards to the Tour. Yes, he WILL be up against the SKY juggernaut and, yes, the racing at the Tour is even more intense than the other 2 GTs but this may be one of the friendlier parcours with regards to lack of ITT.
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You misread my post - Stated that Tuft will be riding the Giro and he and Hepburn/Verona will be the workhorses - I would start Bewley in the TDF but its a matter of how much sway Chaves has in the selection of the team - We also must consider giving Yates boys enough support in the Giro, taking into account the role of Ewan and his helpers - It's a fine balancing act.
dirkprovin said:
You misread my post - Stated that Tuft will be riding the Giro and he and Hepburn/Verona will be the workhorses - I would start Bewley in the TDF but its a matter of how much sway Chaves has in the selection of the team - We also must consider giving Yates boys enough support in the Giro, taking into account the role of Ewan and his helpers - It's a fine balancing act.
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I DO fully agree that ORS needs to be very shrewd and careful with the selection of their Giro squad should it be the case that one of the Yates is the GC man. Whilst its clear that Chaves IS "the number one man"; it must also be recognised that:
1. both Yates' have GT top 10s from last year
2. they, too, have chosen to keep faith with the team.
It would be both counter-productive and a distinct breach of faith to "screw them over" by providing them what would be a clear "B squad". Sending Cort as fast man would not be counter-productive; selecting someone far more resource intensive as Ewan ...... ?
Will think over your TDF team before responding
1. both Yates' have GT top 10s from last year
2. they, too, have chosen to keep faith with the team.
It would be both counter-productive and a distinct breach of faith to "screw them over" by providing them what would be a clear "B squad". Sending Cort as fast man would not be counter-productive; selecting someone far more resource intensive as Ewan ...... ?
Will think over your TDF team before responding
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