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[LuckyLoek]

Yes, Roglic is scheduled to ride the Tour de France this year together with Gesink, Bennett, Groenewegen and the rest of the sprint clan. My guess is he will be stage hunting which is probably a good thing in his first tour. He still has to prove to be consistent for over a week.

This guy is really still a big '?'. Still can't figure out how strong he really is. He had some bad luck with the weather in the races where he was the team leader last year. And he had too many crashes last year. He might be GT material tough especially having his strong TT as a weapon.

 

[johnymax]

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Yes, Roglic is scheduled to ride the Tour de France this year together with Gesink, Bennett, Groenewegen and the rest of the sprint clan. My guess is he will be stage hunting which is probably a good thing in his first tour. He still has to prove to be consistent for over a week.

This guy is really still a big '?'. Still can't figure out how strong he really is. He had some bad luck with the weather in the races where he was the team leader last year. And he had too many crashes last year. He might be GT material tough especially having his strong TT as a weapon.

Are you sure about the Tour? I'd like him to do the Giro again and try to be of more help to Kruijswijk than last year. His help in the high mountains was almost non existent. It was mainly because of his crashes...he crashed what, 4 or 5 times. And that's one of the most important thing for him IMO. To learn how to ride in a peloton in a GT day in and day out without being involved in a crash. I'm sure he improved in this aspect from the beginning of last year, but I'm not sure the nervous stages of the Tour are the right choice for him just yet.

Next I'd like him to show something in the high mountains. He'll ride Tirreno-Adriatico next month and the stage to Terminillo will be a nice test.

Also here is a quote from him after today's stage (from the team website):

Roglic said that he is not a time trial specialist after the stage. It could surprise some given his time trial victory in the Giro d’Italia and the Slovenian national title.
"I do not have to be the best in time trials. I want to do everything possible to be good in the mountains and grow into a classification rider.”

This is the first time he says he wants to be a GC rider.

 

[LuckyLoek]

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Yes, Roglic is scheduled to ride the Tour de France this year together with Gesink, Bennett, Groenewegen and the rest of the sprint clan. My guess is he will be stage hunting which is probably a good thing in his first tour. He still has to prove to be consistent for over a week.

This guy is really still a big '?'. Still can't figure out how strong he really is. He had some bad luck with the weather in the races where he was the team leader last year. And he had too many crashes last year. He might be GT material tough especially having his strong TT as a weapon.

Are you sure about the Tour? I'd like him to do the Giro again and try to be of more help to Kruijswijk than last year. His help in the high mountains was almost non existent. It was mainly because of his crashes...he crashed what, 4 or 5 times. And that's one of the most important thing for him IMO. To learn how to ride in a peloton in a GT day in and day out without being involved in a crash. I'm sure he improved in this aspect from the beginning of last year, but I'm not sure the nervous stages of the Tour are the right choice for him just yet.

Next I'd like him to show something in the high mountains. He'll ride Tirreno-Adriatico next month and the stage to Terminillo will be a nice test.

Also here is a quote from him after today's stage (from the team website):

Roglic said that he is not a time trial specialist after the stage. It could surprise some given his time trial victory in the Giro d’Italia and the Slovenian national title.
"I do not have to be the best in time trials. I want to do everything possible to be good in the mountains and grow into a classification rider.”

This is the first time he says he wants to be a GC rider.

Plans can be changed of course, but Gesink said that Primoz will join him in the TDF at the team presentation in an interview with wielerflits. Giro would be nice, but there will be a 100% focus on Kruijswijk. Roglic is not really the domestique type I guess and if Lotto want to keep this guy in the team they should give him his own chances. They can't really afford to loose him not having many guys that can win in the first place.

Anyway, I'm not an insider. Just saying what I read in the press up till now and adding my own guesses about the reasoning.

 

[Dekker_Tifosi]

Roglic is not planned for the Giro. Might be good, might be the surprise Lotto rider at the Tour since Gesink is going for stage hunting

 

[Lequack]

Good job Primož for wrapping up the overall.

 

[pablohidalgo7]

Re: The official Primož Roglič is the new Landa thread

Next: Strade and Tirreno (last year was going well until the uphill finish was cancelled)

I want to see he doing Pais Vasco and Liege this year.

 

[johnymax]

Re: The official Primož Roglič is the new Landa thread

Fantastic win for him. Even if the Giro TT stage win was bigger, I'm more pleased with this win. I see him as a GC rider and not a TT specialist. The Algarve GC victory shows he is on the right track.

Next: Strade and Tirreno (last year was going well until the uphill finish was cancelled)

I want to see he doing Pais Vasco and Liege this year.

Same here. I think he should do really well in those races. Also T-A will be a good test to see where he stands against top GC riders. Would be nice if LottoNL brings a strong TTT squad there.

 

[Lequack]

I am still reminded of this win he had on a long climb in Tour de Azerbaijan Stage 2 2015. He went up against Chris Horner and several less known climbers as well and won the stage and also overall with a solo attack.

Here is the video:
https://youtu.be/bYaojyG0crQ?t=9m24s


Worth a watch.

 

[Der Effe]

Just extended his contract with Lotto-Jumbo with a year (2018)

http://www.teamlottojumbo.com/cycling-news/algarve-winner-roglic-extends-with-lottonljumbo

 

[GP Blanco]

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Just extended his contract with Lotto-Jumbo with a year (2018)

http://www.teamlottojumbo.com/cycling-news/algarve-winner-roglic-extends-with-lottonljumbo

Great news. I hope he will continue his development.

 

[classicomano]

Yeah Jumbo is a good team for him now, hardly any competition so he can always ride for himself.

 

[Lequack]

Lotto NL Jumbo also posted this video:

A few days in the life of Primoz Roglic during the Volta ao Algarve:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QhnfutY0YY4

 

[Dekker_Tifosi]

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Yeah Jumbo is a good team for him now, hardly any competition so he can always ride for himself.

He can even be the GC rider for Lotto in this years Tour since Gesink goes for stages.
Only question is how consistent Roglic is over 3 weeks.

 

[Lequack]

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Yeah Jumbo is a good team for him now, hardly any competition so he can always ride for himself.

He can even be the GC rider for Lotto in this years Tour since Gesink goes for stages.
Only question is how consistent Roglic is over 3 weeks.

I though they weren't bringing their GC team to the Tour but more of a sprint + stage hunting team.

 

[GP Blanco]

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Yeah Jumbo is a good team for him now, hardly any competition so he can always ride for himself.

He can even be the GC rider for Lotto in this years Tour since Gesink goes for stages.
Only question is how consistent Roglic is over 3 weeks.

I though they weren't bringing their GC team to the Tour but more of a sprint + stage hunting team.

He could just simply follow wheels.

 

[GenericBoonenFan]

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Yeah Jumbo is a good team for him now, hardly any competition so he can always ride for himself.

He can even be the GC rider for Lotto in this years Tour since Gesink goes for stages.
Only question is how consistent Roglic is over 3 weeks.

I though they weren't bringing their GC team to the Tour but more of a sprint + stage hunting team.

He could just simply follow wheels.

Do what rabobank does best in the mountains.

 

[GuyIncognito]

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Yeah Jumbo is a good team for him now, hardly any competition so he can always ride for himself.

He can even be the GC rider for Lotto in this years Tour since Gesink goes for stages.
Only question is how consistent Roglic is over 3 weeks.

I though they weren't bringing their GC team to the Tour but more of a sprint + stage hunting team.

He could just simply follow wheels.

Do what rabobank does best in the mountains.

Crash?

 

[GenericBoonenFan]

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Hang on for a place between 5 and 10

 

[GuyIncognito]

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Hang on for a place between 5 and 10

And then crash in the final week and lose 5 spots.

 

[johnymax]

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Yeah Jumbo is a good team for him now, hardly any competition so he can always ride for himself.

He can even be the GC rider for Lotto in this years Tour since Gesink goes for stages.
Only question is how consistent Roglic is over 3 weeks.

I though they weren't bringing their GC team to the Tour but more of a sprint + stage hunting team.

He could just simply follow wheels.

Or he could just attack Froome and Sky . It'd be closer to his style of racing.

As for the extension, good for both sides I guess. It looks like LottoNL realises his big potential and is going to give him more freedom to race for his own results. I like it. I think Rogla won't disappoint. I'm not thinking about the TdF yet, there are many races ahead of the Grande Boucle.

 

[HelloDolly]

Crikey the same people the same hype ....just a differnt rider

 

[johnymax]

Bad luck for him again . He just can't catch a break . Crashed into a vehicle before the start of the TTT. He had 5 stitches on a finger after the ride. Considering all this LottoNL did a pretty good TTT.

http://www.teamlottojumbo.com/cycling-news/team-lottonljumbo-sixth-in-tirreno-team-time-trial

Roglic crashes

Just before the start at 3:30 local time, Primoz Roglic crashed.
"It was bad luck. It was very busy when we rode to the start ramp and suddenly someone opened a car door. I rode into it and cut my finger. I could still start, but after the finish they put five stitches in it.

“The team time trial went well and we rode as hard as we could. Now it's wait and see how I feel tomorrow and hopefully I can fight in the coming days. "
Engels said that his riders remained calm. Roglic took the ramp and they rode the best they could.

"It’s a compliment to the people there and to our riders. It is amazing that the team was able to maintain the focus and was able to deliver a good time trial. Especially since Tirreno-Adriatico is an important goal for Primoz, it is important that he still was able to ride a good team time trial. "

https://www.instagram.com/p/BRYej0DB3rN/

I ask those who have more experience with riding a bike with this kind of injury. How does this injury affect his performance in the upcoming stages?

 

[pablohidalgo7]

Re: The official Primož Roglič is the new Landa thread

I guess he will have a hard time braking. But I still rely on a good performance of rogla.

 

[Dekker_Tifosi]

Re: The official Primož Roglič is the new Landa thread

Well he survived the first bumps. Should be fine.

 

[johnymax]

Good ride today, good result. Not super, but very good. I don't know where he is in terms of his peak condition but to me he looked stronger in Algarve, although it was a different kind of race off course. I think that tomorrow's stage suits him and so does the final ITT. He should at least retain his position in the top10 and maybe even jump in the top5 if the stars align. Either way today's result was a step in the right direction. He needs to put some work on his climbing on long, proper climbs if he wants to challenge in GTs in the future. It's a long way to go, but I really think he can get there.