Teams & Riders Everybody needs a little bit of Roglstomp in their lives

[tobydawq]

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I do, but Rogla is genuinely an attacking and entertaining rider

Yes, but Adam has also won plenty of races due to attacking racing, so I don't really follow your tirade against him.

 

[Valv.Piti]

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I do, but Rogla is genuinely an attacking and entertaining rider

Yes, but Adam has also won plenty of races due to attacking racing, so I don't really follow your tirade against him.

Adam Yates seems to be a rider where the pace is just high enough that can't attack, yet never high enough to get dropped. I think that holds true for him when riding GTs. He has been incredibly uninspiring so far in these races unfortunately. I also think its the attitude where you get the impression that attacking never, ever has crossed his mind when sitting last and overtaking a rider after another.

In lesser races, obviously he attacks, but its none more than at the very end. I didn't watch todays stage so I cant really say who initiated what outside of Fuglsang.

 

[tobydawq]

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I do, but Rogla is genuinely an attacking and entertaining rider

Yes, but Adam has also won plenty of races due to attacking racing, so I don't really follow your tirade against him.

Adam Yates seems to be a rider where the pace is just high enough that can't attack, yet never high enough to get dropped. I think that holds true for him when riding GTs. He has been incredibly uninspiring so far in these races unfortunately. I also think its the attitude where you get the impression that attacking never, ever has crossed his mind when sitting last and overtaking a rider after another.

In lesser races, obviously he attacks, but its none more than at the very end. I didn't watch todays stage so I cant really say who initiated what outside of Fuglsang.

Yates did it all today. He attacked at the bottom of the penultimate climb, shredded everybody, somewhat mistakenly let Roglic get back at the top, and then he led all the way to the final climb where he dropped Roglic again.

In 2015 he won Clásica San Sebastián from a solo attack. The same year he had attacked in the Montréal race but lost to Wellens. Both those races couldn't be televised, but the attacks still happened.

In the Tour last year, he had attacked solo and was on his way to a stage victory but crashed on the descent of the Col du Portillon. Previously that year he had won a stage in Dauphiné (by being the strongest) and in Tirreno (by attacking far out considering the nature of the finale).

It's a long time since he has been in shape to be at the top end of the GC in a GT, and you can't expect a rider to attack if he doesn't have the shape.

 

[HelloDolly]

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I do, but Rogla is genuinely an attacking and entertaining rider

Yes, but Adam has also won plenty of races due to attacking racing, so I don't really follow your tirade against him.

Adam Yates seems to be a rider where the pace is just high enough that can't attack, yet never high enough to get dropped. I think that holds true for him when riding GTs. He has been incredibly uninspiring so far in these races unfortunately. I also think its the attitude where you get the impression that attacking never, ever has crossed his mind when sitting last and overtaking a rider after another.

In lesser races, obviously he attacks, but its none more than at the very end. I didn't watch todays stage so I cant really say who initiated what outside of Fuglsang.

Now you assessment of Adam Yates is stupid...(dont like personal attacks but if you are rude enough to need to name call rather than argue the point you deserve it back).I have sen nothing but attacking riding from both yates brothers (who are very alike in their style)

 

[yaco]

And it continues - Posters making ill-informed statements without watching the stage - This is mind-boggling.

 

[Blanco]

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Sorry I stand by my assessment of Roglic not being exciting.

Prefer Nibali, Dumoulin,The Yates ,Pinot, and alot of the others

Dumoulin exciting and Roglic isn't?!
Sorry, your assessment is wrong.

 

[Red Rick]

Adam is great outside GTs and kinda lacklustre as a GT rider.

Not sure what would make Dumoulin or Roglic boring. Both are pretty agressive when they have the legs.

 

[Cinemaniak]

I'm officially becoming a fan of this guy. Great stuff, curious to see how he's going to race the Giro. I expect him to be less aggressive in the Giro's first week, but just following Dumoulin, Bernal and Yates. After that first part he'll give us fireworks

 

[Lequack]

A great win for soon-to-be dad. So happy for him.

 

[yaco]

Roglic is the king of one week stage races - He's setting a high benchmark.

 

[Carols]

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Roglic is the king of one week stage races - He's setting a high benchmark.

I think he's going to up it to a GT podium at the minimum this year .

 

[Carols]

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A great win for soon-to-be dad. So happy for him.

This guy stole my heart last year . Give me a good trident pic where his face is showing please!

 

[johnymax]

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Roglic is the king of one week stage races - He's setting a high benchmark.

I think he's going to up it to a GT podium at the minimum this year .

He has won the last 4 WT one week stage races he's taken part of.
In his last 7 stage races he has 5 victories, one 3rd and a 4th place in the Tour where he wasn't even a protected rider at the start of the race. And all of that arrived in an attacking fashion with multiple attacks even though he had the TTs on his side and could have had ridden defensively.

Hats off Primoz and good luck in the Giro. It's going to be a spectacular race

 

[KZD]

Glad he managed to win Tirreno Adriatico after the bad luck last year. Looking very good for the Giro.

 

[Dekker_Tifosi]

Surely the best one-week stage racer at the moment?

 

[Cookster15]

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Surely the best one-week stage racer at the moment?

Relatively new to the sport. 4th in last years Tour and current form tells me he is also one of the best over three weeks right now. We will see at the Giro.

 

[Valv.Piti]

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Surely the best one-week stage racer at the moment?

Probably yes, but still depends a bit on the route. On certain courses I'd still take Valverde over him and there's still Porte, but on the other hand, its Porte. Contador is retired, but Bernal also might have something to say. Thomas is also up there, so is Dumoulin if you include more allround races like Benelux.

 

[Red Rick]

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Surely the best one-week stage racer at the moment?

Probably yes, but still depends a bit on the route. On certain courses I'd still take Valverde over him and there's still Porte, but on the other hand, its Porte. Contador is retired, but Bernal also might have something to say. Thomas is also up there, so is Dumoulin if you include more allround races like Benelux.

Any route with a TT favours Roglic over Valverde. Valverde only has Catalunya basically.

Some of the old Dauphine routes with too much ITT I'd favour Dumoulin, but that's about it.

 

[Der Effe]

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Surely the best one-week stage racer at the moment?

Probably yes, but still depends a bit on the route. On certain courses I'd still take Valverde over him and there's still Porte, but on the other hand, its Porte. Contador is retired, but Bernal also might have something to say. Thomas is also up there, so is Dumoulin if you include more allround races like Benelux.

Any route with a TT favours Roglic over Valverde. Valverde only has Catalunya basically.

Some of the old Dauphine routes with too much ITT I'd favour Dumoulin, but that's about it.

But, but, but, Bernal?

Guy is scary good. Too bad their paths don't cross in one-week stage races though.

 

[Lequack]

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A great win for soon-to-be dad. So happy for him.

This guy stole my heart last year . Give me a good trident pic where his face is showing please!

Here:

 

[Koronin]

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Surely the best one-week stage racer at the moment?

Probably yes, but still depends a bit on the route. On certain courses I'd still take Valverde over him and there's still Porte, but on the other hand, its Porte. Contador is retired, but Bernal also might have something to say. Thomas is also up there, so is Dumoulin if you include more allround races like Benelux.

Any route with a TT favours Roglic over Valverde. Valverde only has Catalunya basically.

Some of the old Dauphine routes with too much ITT I'd favour Dumoulin, but that's about it.

If it's a one week race in Spain other than Basque Country, I'd favor Valverde. That would be Catalonia, Andalucia, and Valencia. If Murcia gets back to a longer stage race, I'd include that one as well. Right now Valverde and Roglic would be the top two stage racers for one week races.

 

[Lequack]

Quite the palmares he has so far:

Also apparently he is doing the Tour De Romandie on 30.4. But Romandie ends on 5.5. and on 11.5. he's already racing the Giro? Seems strange to have such a short space in between, unless he'll be racing the Romandie for training only.

 

[Koronin]

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A great win for soon-to-be dad. So happy for him.

This guy stole my heart last year . Give me a good trident pic where his face is showing please!

Here:

These two are really good.

 

[Red Rick]

I don't remember the last time a real good Giro performance happened after Romandie

 

[Lequack]

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I don't remember the last time a real good Giro performance happened after Romandie

Kruijswik is also doin the Romandie, that's why I am thinking Primoz might not go full in. At least you'd think that with Giro aspiration it wouldn't be wise.