Teams & Riders Everybody needs a little bit of Roglstomp in their lives

[johnymax]

Roglič you fool why can't you be like Pogačar and win by 1min?! You only have barely over 1min advantage over Paris-Nice winner. You should have had at least 2min 30s by now. Your big rival before the race is just 2:15 down, what are you doing? He should have been at least 7min down by now. Win at least 3 stages! Wake up! You won't even reach 100 wins until the end of the season...

 

[how yes no?]

I am choosing to believe that Roglič (on the grounds of always being super quick to reach peak form on hard training) is deliberately under cooked to really save himself as much as he can for the tour. He also mentioned something about freezing again and still waiting for summer, and I honestly believe he struggles quite a bit in the cold with his extreme leanness in the recent years and I guess also not on best terms with the rain and cold weather clothes kit at bora.
The alternative can hardly be more that hoping for that tour de suiss win and an occasional stomp on unipuerto stages here and there.

 

[Valv.Piti]

Roglič you fool why can't you be like Pogačar and win by 1min?! You only have barely over 1min advantage over Paris-Nice winner. You should have had at least 2min 30s by now. Your big rival before the race is just 2:15 down, what are you doing? He should have been at least 7min down by now. Win at least 3 stages! Wake up! You won't even reach 100 wins until the end of the season...

We just find Roglic boring, thats all dude. His racing and his interviews are just.. meh.

 

[Peyroteo94]

We just find Roglic boring, thats all dude. His racing and his interviews are just.. meh.

But just for curiosity? How can you find Roglic boring and be a die hard fan of Valverde?

 

[Valv.Piti]

But just for curiosity? How can you find Roglic boring and be a die hard fan of Valverde?

Cause he was my favorite rider when I started watching cycling, so you have to stick with your favorites. I also do think his reputation for wheelsucking is totally overblown in many cases.

 

[scribers]

He should have rode the tour of Switzerland. A hole in his palmares

 

[johnymax]

We just find Roglic boring, thats all dude. His racing and his interviews are just.. meh.

You can find him boring. His interviews especially in english aren't the best, I agree. But I won't judge him because of that.

I find his turn of speed uphill, and his never die attitude exciting. It's easy to root for Pogačar. He is the best at everything. It's easy to be exciting if you are miles better than the second best rider.

He is no Pogačar. He won't attack and gap his opponents on every climb. He is playing the long game. To win against Pogačar (and Vingegaard) he'll need to be extremely consistent, try to follow Pogi wherever he goes and try to strike on one or two occasions when Pogi makes a mistake or when he won't be on his best day (if that day ever comes).

 

[Rackham]

I'll quote myself from yesterday:

It's about the imagery. First stomp for Bora requires out of saddle sprinting + celebration.

Next time he can sit back, win the MTF relaxed & immediately switch off the bike computer with zero celebration.

One thing at a time eh.

Nice to see business as usual has resumed. Now let's finish this one tomorrow neatly & tidily.

 

[Peyroteo94]

You can find him boring. His interviews especially in english aren't the best, I agree. But I won't judge him because of that.

I find his turn of speed uphill, and his never die attitude exciting. It's easy to root for Pogačar. He is the best at everything. It's easy to be exciting if you are miles better than the second best rider.

He is no Pogačar. He won't attack and gap his opponents on every climb. He is playing the long game. To win against Pogačar (and Vingegaard) he'll need to be extremely consistent, try to follow Pogi wherever he goes and try to strike on one or two occasions when Pogi makes a mistake or when he won't be on his best day (if that day ever comes).

Great post.

 

[bNator]

Congrats but can't cheer for him when he rides like a mountain sprinter. A pity because he is so likeable off the bike.

Oh yes, I can. Like a madman😁

 

[Netserk]

Congrats but can't cheer for him when he rides like a mountain sprinter. A pity because he is so likeable off the bike.

Same reaction last year?

 

[QueenStagiaire]

Same reaction last year?

That‘s a picture from a stage where Pogačar did also attack.

 

[Red Rick]

That‘s a picture from a stage where Pogačar did also attack.

And then Vingegaard could follow and mountain sprint it is

 

[AmRacer]

We just find Roglic boring, thats all dude. His racing and his interviews are just.. meh.

Who are we?

 

[Netserk]

That‘s a picture from a stage where Pogačar did also attack.

Barely as much as Rogla did yesterday.

 

[QueenStagiaire]

And then Vingegaard could follow and mountain sprint it is

How is he supposed to avoid the sprint? Shove Vingegaard off the bike? Just stop when he can‘t win solo?

 

[Netserk]

How is he supposed to avoid the sprint? Shove Vingegaard off the bike? Just stop when he can‘t win solo?

Try a bit more than just sucking Gall's wheel.

 

[CyclistAbi]

We just find Roglic boring, thats all dude. His racing and his interviews are just.. meh.

You three that is, you, yourself and you.

 

[Salvarani]

And then Vingegaard could follow and mountain sprint it is

Lol, that is not the same though.

Thats like comparing a battle with a walk in the park.

 

[QueenStagiaire]

Gerrans‘s 2009 Giro stage win was so much more exciting and a show of panache than Pogačar‘s third 2024 Giro stage win, disappointing that mountain sprinter Pogačar does not have the Grinta of Simon Gerrans.

 

[Red Rick]

How is he supposed to avoid the sprint? Shove Vingegaard off the bike? Just stop when he can‘t win solo?

Then why presume Roglic could have won solo today?

 

[Rackham]

Arguments over style when it comes to Rogla winning stuff is like people arguing about how Real Madrid wins the Champions League final. It doesn't matter because they just win. Rog also... wins. Aka 83 career wins & he's obviously not done yet. This Dauphiné is shaping up to being one of his more dominant one week race GC victories as well.

What's not to like? Obviously people who don't like him have salty tears but that's normal in pro sports. There's always fans... the neutrals... & then there's the antis. I mean if the only thing people have against Rog is "he's not as good as Pogačar" or "he's not as exciting as Pogačar", then f*ck it, everyone else in the sport should just retire immediately.

Who is as good as Pog? Vingegaard in the Tour? Maybe Mathieu van der Poel in a couple of monuments or the Worlds depending on the route profile? It's not exactly a valid comparison. Pog is like peak Brazil circa 1970 World Cup. Meanwhile I'll compare Rog to a national football which goes as second favorite (or third, depending on the injury situation of the current champs).

He's Italy or Germany, basically, i.e. if I'm using that same 1970 analogy.

 

[Krzysztof_O]

Looking good for Bora. Rogla wins again and Vlasov has such good legs that he himself could fight for those stages in another team. Hindley not at his best but he'll surely be a big asset in the Tour mountains.

 

[velaso montador]

Who is as good as Pog? Vingegaard in the Tour? Maybe Mathieu van der Poel in a couple of monuments or the Worlds depending on the route profile? It's not exactly a valid comparison. Pog is like peak Brazil circa 1970 World Cup. Meanwhile I'll compare Rog to a national football which goes as second favorite (or third, depending on the injury situation of the current champs).

He's Italy or Germany, basically, i.e. if I'm using that same 1970 analogy.

Again you nail it, perspective/objective. Pogacar hurt or not 100% duo to prep like last year etc its a fight etc. Pogacar at 100% its just forget it its just is what it is.

Pogacar is like no other in cycling weve ever seen most of us atleast we all know that deep down and Merckx is the only comparable already - HE SHOULDNT be the standard which great riders like Roglic and the rest are judged and measured upon just like you say, that would be not very grateful from a historic perspective even nor even wice or FAIR. Hes just different doesnt mean others still cant be great cyclist.

 

[Gigs_98]

I don't think people are actually criticizing Roglic for how he races (at least I'm not), people just find it boring. There is nothing wrong with winning sprints. None of us criticize Cavendish for never attacking from further out. But desperately looking for examples when Pogacar won a sprint on a stage he didn't attack on (that often), won't make Roglic any less boring.