evolution

[c&cfan]

mobile computers are taking the world (iPads, other tablets, smartphones, etc) and even adobe isn't supporting flash mobile anymore.

windows will also drop flash support in the next desktop version.
Mac OSX already comes without it.

it causes more instability in every platform.

why doesn't cyclingnews evolve and give us (readers and forum users) a better experience by supporting HTML5, especially for videos and interviews?

thanks,

Pedro

 

[Susan Westemeyer]

Since my knowledge of computers is limited to pushing random buttons until something happens, I will pass this along.

Susan

 

[Anonymous]

mobile computers are taking the world (iPads, other tablets, smartphones, etc) and even adobe isn't supporting flash mobile anymore.

windows will also drop flash support in the next desktop version.
Mac OSX already comes without it.

it causes more instability in every platform.

why doesn't cyclingnews evolve and give us (readers and forum users) a better experience by supporting HTML5, especially for videos and interviews?

thanks,

Pedro

not entirely true. Windows 8 does and will support flash, it just wont support it in metro mode, because IE plugins will be disabled. MS are trying to get away from plugins in IE to save battery power on tablets etc. But if you are using a desktop in non metro mode it will still have flash support.

Worth noting as well, that most desktop browsers arent fully html5 complaint yet. Opera are just rolling out the final stages in their beta's of 11.6, and alphas of 12. Firefox are rolling it out, and are doing a reasonable job, and IE is getting pretty much nowhere. the only browser on windows at the moment that scores anything near reasonable in html5 is chrome.

Im running the alpha of opera 12 and score 350/475 pts on html 5 test
Firefox 11 scores 335,
Chrome 17, 374,
and Internet explorer 9 only 141

even IE 10 only scores 314 and thats not been publicly rolled out yet.

Much as I hate it, IE is still the most used browser, and while the main browser barely supports html5 then websites rolling it out are wasting their time a little bit.

 

[c&cfan]

not entirely true. Windows 8 does and will support flash, it just wont support it in metro mode, because IE plugins will be disabled. MS are trying to get away from plugins in IE to save battery power on tablets etc. But if you are using a desktop in non metro mode it will still have flash support.

Worth noting as well, that most desktop browsers arent fully html5 complaint yet. Opera are just rolling out the final stages in their beta's of 11.6, and alphas of 12. Firefox are rolling it out, and are doing a reasonable job, and IE is getting pretty much nowhere. the only browser on windows at the moment that scores anything near reasonable in html5 is chrome.

Im running the alpha of opera 12 and score 350/475 pts on html 5 test
Firefox 11 scores 335,
Chrome 17, 374,
and Internet explorer 9 only 141

even IE 10 only scores 314 and thats not been publicly rolled out yet.

Much as I hate it, IE is still the most used browser, and while the main browser barely supports html5 then websites rolling it out are wasting their time a little bit.

the metro version is the one they are "forcing" for their costumers..

IE isn't the most used browser anymore, that's safari (desktop+mobile) and it already supports html5 nicely, but not flash, obviously.

all the new mobile devices are ready for HTML5, just like macs and new computers (that are coming).

companies don't like/approve flash anymore, it's old and outdated technology. it's pretty clear what is the way to the future and even adobe already realized that. flash is dead.

anyway, people are massively stopping installing and using it, so cyclingnews should, at least in interviews videos, give a html5 option.

Vimeo, youtube, etc... they already did it.

so, cyclingnews, can you do it?

thank you.

 

[Anonymous]

IE isn't the most used browser anymore, that's safari (desktop+mobile) and it already supports html5 nicely, but not flash, obviously.

not sure where the figures come from that show Safari is the leading browser.

Statcounter which is the main source of browser stats, has Internet explorer and Chrome leading the way, at between 28 and 34% share, firefox falling back to 24%, firefox is losing favour in a big way, and Safari back on 7-8%, with opera last despite making good inroads in the mobile market.

http://gs.statcounter.com/

most browsers support html5 video fine, but as far as full html5 support goes, only chrome, safari and in later betas opera come close to offering decent support. While IE and FF have 50% of the market and are lousy at supporting HTML5 its not yet a huge issue.

Most of cn's vids are on youtube anyway

 

[Caruut]

Apple only hate Flash because it makes it hard to sell apps.

 

[josnor]

Our video provider does support HTML5 on mobile devices which don't support Flash. I believe this is currently the only case where HTML5 video is used because we need Flash to do certain things that we can't currently do with HTML5. This is slowly changing though. Don't forget that HTML5 is still a working draft and the standard is still being debated amongst the W3C (the standards body in charge of HTML, XML and other web technologies) and the browser vendors; it is by no means stable yet and, as TeamSkyFans pointed out, there are significant differences between the browsers' implementations.

 

[c&cfan]

Our video provider does support HTML5 on mobile devices which don't support Flash. I believe this is currently the only case where HTML5 video is used because we need Flash to do certain things that we can't currently do with HTML5. This is slowly changing though. Don't forget that HTML5 is still a working draft and the standard is still being debated amongst the W3C (the standards body in charge of HTML, XML and other web technologies) and the browser vendors; it is by no means stable yet and, as TeamSkyFans pointed out, there are significant differences between the browsers' implementations.

how isn't it stable (yet) when you have vimeo and youtube (besides other huge video sharing sites) already using it? why isn't it a real immediate solution even when adobe itself announced the death of flash?