Explosion at Boston Marathon

[BroDeal]

Difficult to know isnt it? People arrested could fit a profile or have been caught on camera near the scene with a package or something. Also, someone could be guarded by police for their own safety in case someone decides that they must have been the bomber because of their ethnic profile, etc, and thats without knowing what data about anyone is true. I guess we'll find out in time, that area near the finish line would presumably have quite a lot of cameras.

I got this from a NY Times article:

For major events in New York and other large cities, Mr. Roman said the police would typically weld manhole covers shut, while also examining the entire route just before the race. They will also place snipers on rooftops, with helicopters overhead. Analytic cameras in the city will be focusing on the race, he said.

“They have all the analytic cameras in the city focusing on the race with their advanced software network, reading license plates,” Roman said.

Welcome to the total surveilance society.

 

[BroDeal]

Now the reports are the JFK library incident was a fire that is unrelated, so now we are back to a large grouping of people on a holiday, which is not much to go on.

 

[Descender]

Whether it's right-wing nutjobs or Muslim fundies, it's political. It's always political.

...when it's not religious, as it so often is.

 

[hrotha]

...when it's not religious, as it so often is.

In the Caliphate politics and religion are one and the same.

 

[BroDeal]

This appears to show where one of the bombs was placed.

 

[serfla]

...when it's not religious, as it so often is.

Behind religious beliefs always stands a man eager of political power.

The hatred was guide to this attack, whoever is responsible for it.
Sincere condolence and compassion to all affected by this act of madness.

 

[Amsterhammer]

First of all, sympathy and condolences to all affected by this cowardly act of madness.

It now seems that the JFK library incident is indeed unrelated, there are wildly fluctuating reports of injuries, ranging from 28 to over 100. Thankfully, as of a few minutes ago, the death toll was still 'only' two.

CNN had the word, "terrorist" up on their screen to describe the attack. Certainly, this act was by definition a terrorist attack. The problem with right wingnut Merika is that they automatically interpret the word "terrorist" to mean Islamic/Arabic/Muslim/raghead. And since they are insane, they also believe tonight that somehow, someway, Obama was involved with, responsible for, or abetted, this act of terrorism. Why, the average sane person may wonder? Because he's a Muslim, a Muslim lover, he wants to be able to implement martial law so that he can confiscate all the guns and arrange a third term in office to finish turning Merika into the socialist utopia that he is bent on thrusting down real Merikan's throats.

I didn't make any of that sh ite up, it's out there on the web, right now.

Pipe down, girl. You don't even live here. You don't know what is like to reside among the right-wing loons who are convinced the end of the world is nigh and the socialists have "destroyed" America. You did not have to listen to talk shows where people called in after the presidential election, practically bawling, that they could not believe the country they grew up in is gone. We have a home-grown bunch of nutters here that you cannot understand.

I am sorry to clue you in on this, but as an Aussie who fancies himself a conservative, you would be laughed out of the building as a RINO or worse by the "real" conservatives here.

If the above rational, accurate, insight is indeed your honest belief BD (which I would like to believe,) it makes me wonder about all those posts in the politics topic where you have played the "home-grown nutter".

 

[hiero2]

Given the ability to get news today, I'm sure everyone is as up-to-date as I am, sitting at home just a short way from the scene of the attack.

Yeah, it is probably political. It is certainly obscenely horrible. And we aren't getting a lot of graphic coverage of the horrid bits, thank you very much. I don't need that, I know what it is like.

I could say I am glad the medical tents were so close - but that is far overshadowed by the sadness over the deaths and damage done. Less damage than would have been without those medicos - but still. Life will never be the same for some.

It bothers me that the incidents of such violence in the US seem to be getting more and more frequent.

 

[etymology]

FWIW, at least in U.S. history there's always the earlier part of the news cycle where there is a void to fill and someone fills it with allegations that some feared social/economic group had a hand in the event. At least in the U.S., there are a number of fear mongers that have large audiences.

Events like this are horrible enough without the fear mongers.

I'd also like to point out Law Enforcement has been embarrased in past high-profile situations like this rushed naming individuals to a national audience that turned out to have nothing to do with the event.

Patience from everyone is required.

thank you for this well reasoned, measured post.

 

[hfer07]

Crazy sh!t going on here in Boston- all cellphone services shut down, as well as public transportation around the area-lots of theories too flying around the news on who's behind this , but nothing concrete yet. wishing only the best for those folks affected by this barbaric act....

 

[Afrank]

This is just horrible, my condolences go out to everyone affected by this tragedy. I can't imagine what the people on the scene and those directly affected must be going through, especially after seeing that 2nd photo in the OP.

Don't know what kind of person would do something like this, I just hope that the police can get to the bottom of this quickly and find whoever is responsible for this.

 

[Scott SoCal]

Terrorist attacks whether foreign or domestic are horrendous no matter where they happen.

It would be nice to see people wait to form their conclusions until most or all the facts are known. Too much to ask for I guess.

 

[BroDeal]

Terrorist attacks whether foreign or domestic are horrendous no matter where they happen.

It would be nice to see people wait to form their conclusions until most or all the facts are known. Too much to ask for I guess.

Yeah. Let's all stop discussing anything until the book is written. Ban the Internet. Who needs it when we can all sit and wait for the mainstream media to put someone's byline on somebody else's press release?

 

[Scott SoCal]

Yeah. Let's all stop discussing anything until the book is written. Ban the Internet. Who needs it when we can all sit and wait for the mainstream media to put someone's byline on somebody else's press release?

Dude, feel free. I remember all if the sh!t information coming out of Newtown the first few hours. By all means, form your position now... No need to wait for facts.

 

[hiero2]

Terrorist attacks whether foreign or domestic are horrendous no matter where they happen.

It would be nice to see people wait to form their conclusions until most or all the facts are known. Too much to ask for I guess.

Yeah. Let's all stop discussing anything until the book is written. Ban the Internet. Who needs it when we can all sit and wait for the mainstream media to put someone's byline on somebody else's press release?

Dude, feel free. I remember all if the sh!t information coming out of Newtown the first few hours. By all means, form your position now... No need to wait for facts.

Well, now. Bro, you wanted some thick skinned discussion going. Here you've got it. I think both of you likely think yourselves thick-skinned, so I guess all is good, eh?

But I have to be fair. Bro didn't form any conclusions. He did speculate on some possibilities. And, that might represent bias on his part, but to be honest, he was just discussing. Feel free to tell him his discussion was one-sided.

No need for anybody to get defensive, either. If you do that, I'll have to think you aren't so thick skinned after all - and that might hurt your rep.



It's a bad situation, and we here in the US are very lucky that we get so little of this stuff - unlike places like Israel or Palestine. I'm sure you can think up other examples. But it is still ugly.

 

[BroDeal]

Dude, feel free. I remember all if the sh!t information coming out of Newtown the first few hours. By all means, form your position now... No need to wait for facts.

It is tax day. Hmmmm. You were not by chance in Boston today were you?

 

[Scott SoCal]

It is tax day. Hmmmm. You were not by chance in Boston today were you?

Nope. Never been to Boston and I'm told its my loss.

 

[hfer07]

What fvcking bothers me a lot is that a couple weeks ago- the Feds were investigating a case of "explosive devices contained in plastic bottles" in Lawrence, without proper follow up.....

http://www.bostonglobe.com/metro/2013/04/05/lawrence/8KwwXWlJyw36d9IKkrwnCO/story.html

 

[hiero2]

Nope. Never been to Boston and I'm told its my loss.

We have some good beer here. Although, I think there is some better somewhat north of you. Just sayin'.

 

[Hugh Januss]

If the above rational, accurate, insight is indeed your honest belief BD (which I would like to believe,) it makes me wonder about all those posts in the politics topic where you have played the "home-grown nutter".

Uhm, caught trolling once again? BD is one of my favorite posters, but I can never tell if it is because I want to kill him or agree with him. Guess it is a love/hate kind of thing?

 

[rhubroma]

Didn't take long to make this political partisan game...wow.

In fact, a Saudi Arabian national has been identified.

Sure it was those evil infidels. Now we will invade Iran!!!

Of course it's quite possible that this was Islamic matrix terrorism, but you are being just as partisan and you don't even realize it because of stupidity. Naturally a recrudescence of right wing extremism a là Timothy McVeigh, given the current political climate in America, is equally possible though and to not admit otherwise is mere vile hypocrisy. So there isn't anything partisan about such a conjecture, but just a rational and completely founded hypothesis, which only makes your defensive response all the more stupid and puerile.

PS: Let me inform you on something: left wing terrorism is never a public act, as is always the case with right wing terrorism, but identifies individual "enemies," usually of a political or economic status, to target. Hence this was either Al Qaeda or a wing nut. In any case both are forms of fascism, the one religious the other political.

 

[ustabe]

Sure it was those evil infidels. Now we will invade Iran!

Of course it's quite possible that this was Islamic matrix terrorism, but you are being just as partisan and you don't even realize it because of stupidity.

Probably like many, I have my suspicions. Not having facts and not wanting to be inflammatory, I'll keep them to myself.

What's peculiar to me is that the bombs weren't detonated until long after the the elite and faster runners had finished, received their awards, and hit the showers. If the bomber was going for maximum impact, he was an hour or two too late.

 

[rhubroma]

Probably like many, I have my suspicions. Not having facts and not wanting to be inflammatory, I'll keep them to myself.

What's peculiar to me is that the bombs weren't detonated until long after the the elite and faster runners had finished, received their awards, and hit the showers. If the bomber was going for maximum impact, he was an hour or two too late.

I wasn't being inflammatory, if merely pointing out the obvious isn't to be taken as such.

At any rate I find it embarrassing that some use this as an expedient to be politically correct and as a call for prudence to “wait for the news reports” to not just draw conclusions, but even make conjectures, merely to avoid the potentially embarrassing and discrediting publicity of their political persuasion, which is appallingly hypocritical and stupid with it.

 

[rhubroma]

Probably like many, I have my suspicions. Not having facts and not wanting to be inflammatory, I'll keep them to myself.

What's peculiar to me is that the bombs weren't detonated until long after the the elite and faster runners had finished, received their awards, and hit the showers. If the bomber was going for maximum impact, he was an hour or two too late.

I wasn't being inflammatory, unlsess merely pointing out the obvious is to be taken as such.

At any rate I find it repulsive that some use this as an expedient to be politically correct in making calls for prudence to “wait for the news reports” to not, I don't say, draw conclusions, but even make conjectures; just to avoid any potentially embarrassing and discrediting publicity for their political persuasion, as if their volition could alter an eventual outcome, which is naturally hypocritical and appallingly stupid with it.

 

[42x16ss]

Probably like many, I have my suspicions. Not having facts and not wanting to be inflammatory, I'll keep them to myself.

What's peculiar to me is that the bombs weren't detonated until long after the the elite and faster runners had finished, received their awards, and hit the showers. If the bomber was going for maximum impact, he was an hour or two too late.

Not really, when you stop and consider that the average finishing time for a marathon is a little over 4 hours. There will have been a huge number of people approaching the finish line, or had just crossed along with friends and family there to wish them luck. The highest profile elites have probably gone, showered and changed, then come back to receive their awards, hold press conferences/ interviews etc. It was actually the perfect time for such an act to have maximun impact