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FINALLY! Cyclocross will become an Olympic winter sport in 2030!

This could be a huge boost for the sport, which lost a lot of international esteem when MTB became an Olympic sport. Ever since, a lot of talent decided to switch to MTB for that reason.

View: https://x.com/Cyclocrosss/status/1817231481179164702

View: https://x.com/Cyclocrosss/status/1817231739460153602


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I'll believe it when it's official - you know what the Belgians are like with 'their' sport.........

However, if true, then maybe more countries will put resources towards the sport - and it will no longer be a youth/ training sport.
Will the IOC force only snow courses? Isn't there something that requires winter sports to be played on snow or ice? I wasn't impressed with the Val di Sole races in recent years.
 
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Will the IOC force only snow courses? Isn't there something that requires winter sports to be played on snow or ice? I wasn't impressed with the Val di Sole races in recent years.
It's an asinine rule, but if they force a snow course, it really doesn't matter either way. The result will be the same. The sport will gain international traction because it will be an olympic sport. In order to compete at the OG, riders will likely need to gather enough UCI points throughout the season or at least attent a minimum of races. Which means a more competitive and international startlist throughout the season. It can only have a positive effect on the sport. That the actual OG race ends up being in snow once every so many years... who cares.
I think some Swiss, French, Italian, Czech... athletes will start leaning towards CX again over the alternatives.
 
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Is the new generation so bad that he could do that in 2030?
It's hard to tell. The current "new generation" can't hold a candle to Van der Poel yet. It might well be very different in 6 years of course. On the women's side there has been a quite drastic turnover recently, with Pieterse and especially Van Empel being almost unbeatable last season. But Marianne Vos was still able to become world champion two years ago, so I wouldn't put it past Van Aert to snatch silver in 2030.
 
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Clearly good for CX if this happens but then races on snow are just not the same thing, almost a different sport. The Val di Sole races were to some extent entertaining but at least to me felt more like a marketing event rather than a proper race. Yet sand courses works quite well in the winter providing grip and are not too subject to snow and ice. Grass not so much.

Next Winter Olympics is in Cortina so snow will obviously be a factor 😵‍💫
 
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Pretty cool news in my view.
Honestly, the summer Olympics didn't really need another cycling discipline but the Winter Olympics often lack a bit of variety in my opinion so adding a snow CX course is good stuff.

Cross country running very weird tho, at least CX has a (European) tradition of being hosted in the winter (locations), running I mainly associate with Bekele obliterating everyone year after year in mild dry conditions.
 
Is the new generation so bad that he could do that in 2030?
Nys sr. was competitive until he was 38 and faced WvA and MvdP when they were still teens. He became WCC CX at 36 and grabbed silver at 37. MvdP sr. went back after his road career and also became WCC CX at 36. He took the bronze medal when he was 39. There have been others to be competitive in CX at a late age and it's quite common in CX for riders being successful well into their 30s. Technique plays a big part and the big engines just simply last or even improve over a lengthy career. They lose some punch, which is why older rider often still shine in the hardest CX races/conditions and not on the punchy/fast courses.

So it's certainly possible for Van Aert and Van der Poel to get medals at that age, and it doesn't necessarily mean the new generation would be bad. The main condition would be, they not retire. An other thing would be, that becoming an OG event, brings in more talent that would otherwise be lost to RR or MTB, making the sport more competitive again. It could also see Pidcock (who has -4 years on them) going full CX again, Nys jr. (who still will improve) to build his season around that instead of the road.

If the OG need actual ice or snow, then technique will play a major part, the course won't be punchy, and age will play even less of a role. The best snow rider will win. In the past there have been lower tier riders to suddenly compete for the win on all-snow courses, simply because they had better snow technique.
 
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Wouldn't know. I'm just joking. I can see this serving as an inspiration to continue at least until 2030..

Myself I'm pretty mid on this. I've never really strongly felt CX should be Olympic. And CX running is just taking the piss for me.
Cross-country running is a sport with greater history, breadth and depth of elite field, and amateur participation than many others in the games. It is not really a fit for the winter olympics but neither is cyclocross. I don't really understand how IOC decides which new sports to admit, but xc running has a better case than many already included.
 
Cross-country running is a sport with greater history, breadth and depth of elite field, and amateur participation than many others in the games. It is not really a fit for the winter olympics but neither is cyclocross. I don't really understand how IOC decides which new sports to admit, but xc running has a better case than many already included.
Doesn't CX running have a huge crossover with general long distance running? That part doesn't pass the sniff test for me.

If anything CX would capture the original Olympic idea in a cooler way than running around on asphalt road in a giant city
 
You have to think that part of the calculus that would be coming into play with adding in CX and Cross Country running is the desire to make the Winter Olympics more resistant to climate change. Both sports *can* practiced in true winter (ice and snow) conditions, but don't require it. That makes them more suitable for a Winter Olympics than those outdoor sports that are heavily reliant on cold winter conditions. Secondly, the legitimacy of the Winter Olympics as a global sport has always been somewhat compromised by the number of countries that actually compete. Adding in sports that are ice/snow optional opens up the appeal to more non-traditional winter sports countries.
 
You have to think that part of the calculus that would be coming into play with adding in CX and Cross Country running is the desire to make the Winter Olympics more resistant to climate change. Both sports *can* practiced in true winter (ice and snow) conditions, but don't require it. That makes them more suitable for a Winter Olympics than those outdoor sports that are heavily reliant on cold winter conditions. Secondly, the legitimacy of the Winter Olympics as a global sport has always been somewhat compromised by the number of countries that actually compete. Adding in sports that are ice/snow optional opens up the appeal to more non-traditional winter sports countries.
Exactly. When winter and snow are required, you basically limit yourself to a small portion of the world to hold the event. You exclude so many athletes that don't have the opportunity to sport in/on snow or ice. And the way things are going, in a few decades you can simply scratch the entire winter OG because there won't be any snow left.
 
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Exactly. When winter and snow are required, you basically limit yourself to a small portion of the world to hold the event. You exclude so many athletes that don't have the opportunity to sport in/on snow or ice. And the way things are going, in a few decades you can simply scratch the entire winter OG because there won't be any snow left.
We have the summer Olympics for non ice or snow sports. Winter sports are based on conditions found in winter; that's how they developed. If you just start adding random sports like xc running it's not... logical. Even CX is a stretch because its winter season is based on training/diversion after road races.

But I have faith in the IOC's ability to continue to dilute the Olympic ideal.
 
If I were a fan of winter sports, I think I would be disappointed. The sports that belong there are predicated on the notion that frozen water has a low coefficient of friction. Cyclocross and cross country running can take place in snow, but they are not defined, or necessarily enhanced by it: same applies to soccer, rugby (I name those two because I have done them, non-competitively, in the snow) and any number of other sports.

But I'm no fan of the Winter Olympics, so I'm happy enough about it: it could be a bit of fun and higher profile, but not much more relevant to the mainstream of the sport than rugby sevens at the Olympics is to the fifteen a side game.
 
We have the summer Olympics for non ice or snow sports. Winter sports are based on conditions found in winter; that's how they developed. If you just start adding random sports like xc running it's not... logical. Even CX is a stretch because its winter season is based on training/diversion after road races.

But I have faith in the IOC's ability to continue to dilute the Olympic ideal.
I see RHD just beat me to it. Winter is not only snow and ice and it would be hypocritical to hold on to that "ideal" when summer Olympics don't have such a strict requirement. Summer sports aren't required to be beach/water sports, or held under dry/hot conditions. So why do winter sports? Shouldn't the goal be to include all relevant sports, regardless of the conditions, and bring all athletes of he world together to compete? Shouldn't that be the Olympic ideal? CX is a winter sport, it simply doesn't require snow or ice. You may find CX not relevant anymore, but considering it was exactly the OG that is to blame for that, this is no more than righting a wrong.

And as mentioned before, the way things are going, it won't take long for all those "original" winter sports to be held on artificial snow/ice, which would beg the question, what makes them winter sports and why can't they be held in the summer as well?

If I were a fan of winter sports, I think I would be disappointed.
Why would it be disappointing to anyone? Does adding a sport, in any way affect the other sports that people do like? I don't give a flying F about rugby, or breakdancing as sports. I think breakdancing is cool, but not a sport, and i think rugby is stupid. In no way shape or form does it affect my enjoyment or lack of enjoyment of the summer Olympics. If you add breakdancing, you should also add ballroom and ballet for instance. I think chess is a much more competitive and relevant sport as well but somehow it seems logical to everyone that it is not included. They could make chess a winter sport maybe, force them to go play chess in the snow outside and spice it up a little.
 
Winter sports is a meaningful compound noun in a way that 'summer sports' is not:

Let's not deny that winter sports, so defined, is, at present, what the Winter Olympics are about. If they want to change that, it's their right to do so, but it changes the nature of that jamboree.
 
Winter sports is a meaningful compound noun in a way that 'summer sports' is not:

Let's not deny that winter sports, so defined, is, at present, what the Winter Olympics are about. If they want to change that, it's their right to do so, but it changes the nature of that jamboree.
Yes, they finally understood the fallacy and decided to correct it. Let's not forget, the original Olympics, did NOT include winter sports at all. I'm sure at the time there were plenty of people who thought they had great reasons against adding them to start with. But like Bolder aptly called it, they decided to "dilute" the ideal, right? People who share that view, might want to go back to just the one sport that started it all, the marathon. Because basically every other sport that was added, was simply diluting the "OG ideal" (see what i did there).

Also funny, one of the examples from the links you provided:
Women also run indoor track, a winter sport, even though the campus has no indoor track.