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Correct.samhocking said:So initially a salary cap changes nothing,
Incorrect.samhocking said:but over the longer term Froome will not be able to earn more than his 4M even if he and sky achieve more success, but Nibali will be able to earn more even without any improvement in results?
Without a floor, they are the very riders likely to suffer from a salary cap.samhocking said:Likewise for all the best support riders who are in demand by the best teams.
I know you all hate it when I ask for supporting evidence but please, for this, some supporting evidence. I've posted the UCI's E&Y stat showing a salary increase across the board in all 40 or so pro-level teams of 38.9% between 2009 and 2012 (at a time when the global economy was in crisis and real-world wages were being atrophied by austerity). I've posted Sky's wages bill doubling between 2010 and 2014. I've posted figures showing AG2R's total budget climbing 50.4% between 2010 and 2014 (the link between budget and wages is, at this stage, I think clear, so quoting a budget figure is fair). I've show you mine. Now let's see your evidence.samhocking said:The thing is riders salaries are hardly spiralling out of control.
Technically it was 2009 and GBP 0.665m. In 2010 it was GBP 9.987m.samhocking said:The primary concern of all teams is finding sponsors. Team Sky started on £7M in 2010 iirc.
I recall I compared AG2R's race expenses and Sky's, I think for 2011: Sky claimed GBP 1.366m. More relevantly, as a percentage of total income, Sky's wages bill, for riders and staff, has been between 71.94% in 2012 and 73.57% in 2015. And even I have lost the thread of the point being made.samhocking said:They were well below the budget of 5 other teams far more successful than them at the time. Over time though and with success it increased. For one, Team Sky's staff went from I think 30 permanent staff to over 100 between 2010 and 2013/14 so much of the increase in sponsorship revenue was not simply rider wages but 70 new staff contracts. Even on a measly £30K a year that's over £2M alone and doesn't include their expenses travelling all over Europe racing and flying and driving extra vehicles that also need to be bought.