FLandis Watch

[Kennf1]

and this matters why? you took the time to look up USAC rules...seriously? hurrah for you.

this is not nam, there are rules.

Perhaps they can take back his 50 quid and sternly admonish him?

I recently joined this forum after noticing the continued downward trend of dreadful discussions forced by the most cynical and pathetic. come to find this forum consists of the same.

This place is akin to watching someone pop the pimples on their face, or pick away at scabs. you've got to leave it alone for it to get better. though it is compulsive to get at it, nothing comes from it. it shows a level of weakness in persisting.

So you joined the forum to make positive posts like this? And your digs on Vaughters and Danielson fit into that ethos how?

 

[Polish]

Every time you post you demonstrate how clueless you are.

It's actually against USA Cycling rules to wear the jersey of a team you aren't affiliated with in a race.

The Tour de France.

Floyd WON the effing Tour de France.
Do you think he needs fashion advice from a twobit forum peanut gallery?

He can wear what he wants, and if he gets a warning or a fine - BFD.
His Hip Replacement Operation was a modern medical miracle.
If Floyd wants to plug the OUCH Medical Clinic, thats great.
Floyd knows the meaning of 'loyalty'.

 

[this_is_edie]

no not surprising.

what is surprising that somehow out of nowhere and after 4 years of hibernation his numerous acolytes almost simultaneously are once again filling the interwebs with misinformation, spin and misdirection.

can anyone help me figure this out ? why dr. kays, dbs and various other completely discredited sources made another appearance ?

it's not like flandis is about to face another hearing or something.

I am surprised by the sudden influx of Landis stories too, what gives? Is he trying to make sure that his former teammates remember him in their will?

 

[BikeCentric]

The Tour de France.

Floyd WON the effing Tour de France.
Do you think he needs fashion advice from a twobit forum peanut gallery?

He can wear what he wants, and if he gets a warning or a fine - BFD.
His Hip Replacement Operation was a modern medical miracle.
If Floyd wants to plug the OUCH Medical Clinic, thats great.
Floyd knows the meaning of 'loyalty'.

Really? According to the TDF record book Oscar Pereiro won the Tour De France in 2006.

I could care less about Floyd's "fashion" choices I'm just pointing out what's in the rule book. If USA Cycling chooses to enforce or not enforce their rules that's their choice not mine.

 

[xnobrakesx]

Oscar was given the victory after the fact, Floyd in fact raced the Tour in the shortest amount of time. He won. Now you may proceed to say he cheated, but that does not change the history of the race.

On his jersey: I expect the cynics to be against Floyd, and I understand why, but why does it matter what jersey he wore? DZ wore his DZnuts jersey in the Tour of Utah, Granted they made him change to a plain jersey halfway through the race. The same thing could have happened for Floyd, but it didn't, who cares.

 

[D Avoid]

Francis might be on to something. The site looks like someone who knows FLandis and has very limited skillz did it for free.

chArmswrong?

 

[Polish]

Really? According to the TDF record book Oscar Pereiro won the Tour De France in 2006.
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Don't believe everything you read.

Floyd finished the 2006 Tour de France 57 seconds ahead of Oscar.

Those 57 seconds are REAL - not imaginary or irrational or surreal....

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2PaWfXuvBoY
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[BikeCentric]

Don't believe everything you read.

Floyd finished the 2006 Tour de France 57 seconds ahead of Oscar.

Those 57 seconds are REAL - not imaginary or irrational or surreal....

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2PaWfXuvBoY
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Yeah I watched the race in real time in 2006. I guess you are trying to pretend that Floyd wasn't full of drugs or something and didn't get his jersey stripped and didn't go through a ridiculous prolonged legal battle that was highly damaging to the sport of cycling that still has repercussions to this day with nuthuggers like yourself trying to rewrite history.

 

[kurtinsc]

Here... we can compromise.

Floyd finished in the shortest amount of time.

Oscar won the race.

To win a race, you do have to obey the rules. A swimmer in the olympics who finishes in the shortest time but gets disqualified due to an illegal turn doesn't win an olympic gold medal... but they did finish the race faster then anyone else.

 

[pedaling squares]

Floyd knows the meaning of 'loyalty'.

He sure does. Omerta baby! Keeps the faith even when his professional and personal lives are circling the bowl. Not a peep out of your man Landy, not a word against those rich successful dudes who flushed his blood bag for daring to pursue his own success. This eternal lap dog knows the meaning of loyalty.

 

[Colm.Murphy]

So you joined the forum to make positive posts like this? And your digs on Vaughters and Danielson fit into that ethos how?

please.

commenting on Danielson and his high-talent/low-IQ existence is hardly a parallel to someone running to the USAC rulebook in a 'see, SEEE.." tattling for a jersey "infraction".

commenting on St. Vaughters and his cask-soaked ego, the great savior of the sport, and his belief and handling of lil tommy is nothing more than opinion. if you want me to add something positive, how about making a suggestion as to what that might be? find me the lining of silver with him and tommy. i notice you don't dispute my thoughts...

Landis is the eternal loser. kicking him in the nuts over a jersey is asinine and speaks volumes about those on this forum who do.

but have it your way, squeeze that pustule till it is red and festering, and the only thing that get you noticed. knock yourself out.

EDIT: also, I am not here to defend or blindly attack athletes or members...just wanted to add that.

 

[Oldman]

please.

commenting on Danielson and his high-talent/low-IQ existence is hardly a parallel to someone running to the USAC rulebook in a 'see, SEEE.." tattling for a jersey "infraction".

commenting on St. Vaughters and his cask-soaked ego, the great savior of the sport, and his belief and handling of lil tommy is nothing more than opinion. if you want me to add something positive, how about making a suggestion as to what that might be? find me the lining of silver with him and tommy. i notice you don't dispute my thoughts...

Landis is the eternal loser. kicking him in the nuts over a jersey is asinine and speaks volumes about those on this forum who do.

but have it your way, squeeze that pustule till it is red and festering, and the only thing that get you noticed. knock yourself out.

EDIT: also, I am not here to defend or blindly attack athletes or members...just wanted to add that.

Gotta agree and disagree with you.
Disparaging Tom Danielson in the manner you have makes you the same level of nit-picker. TD probably never did anything to you except exceed your cycling abilities. You provide the multiplier for that formula

As for Landis; you're right about kicking the guy while he's way down over such minor "legal" issues. But calling him an "eternal loser" erodes any position of impartial analysis.

Most of us don't like to tone of the petty background arguments. There is some real information exchanged and, if you can't find it; provide some serious wisdom.

 

[Colm.Murphy]

Gotta agree and disagree with you.
Disparaging Tom Danielson in the manner you have makes you the same level of nit-picker. TD probably never did anything to you except exceed your cycling abilities. You provide the multiplier for that formula

As he has for EVERY single poster here. If there is a poster who has won 2.HC stage races posting, please step forward. I make no comment as to him affecting me, as it or my own cycling abilities are irrelevant. Observing his shortcomings, as I have done, is only an insult if you are he, or his mum.

As for Landis; you're right about kicking the guy while he's way down over such minor "legal" issues. But calling him an "eternal loser" erodes any position of impartial analysis.

"Eternal loser" in the aspect of a Charlie Brown type figure. Is it not fact that he has "lost" most of the things the general forum would prefer to keep? again, more of an observation, not partiality

Most of us don't like to tone of the petty background arguments. There is some real information exchanged and, if you can't find it; provide some serious wisdom.

I do not understand your point. what do you mean in the second sentence?

 

[scoot'n]

For your information from the USAC rule book http://www.usacycling.org/news/user/story.php?id=4220

(b) Advertising may appear only on the uniform, including caps, shoes, and helmet of riders who are racing members of sponsored clubs [disqualification for other advertising]. The club's name must appear on the front and back or two sides of the jersey. The name may be abbreviated.
(c) UCI Teams and Category 1 & 2 riders who are members of the same Team or club must wear identifiably similar uniforms when competing in a massed start race except where different uniforms are called for by USA Cycling regulations. This also applies to over garments such as vests, jackets, and rain jackets; for UCI Teams and Category 1 & 2 riders who are members of the same team these items must be transparent or identifiably similar except where different uniforms are called for by USA Cycling regulations. [Offending
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rider not permitted to start if noted before the race; otherwise, warning for first offense].
(d) Club Jerseys. In competition, no rider shall wear the emblem, inscription, or uniform of any club or team which the rider is not eligible to represent [Offending rider may not be permitted to start if noted before the race; otherwise, warning for first offense]. Club jerseys must not be similar in color or design to a National Champion jersey or a USA National Team jersey.

So Landis is again breaking the rules. Perhaps not a surprise given his history.

He was guilty of subsection (b) only, and even then only if you actually believe that a logo on a cycling jersey constitutes 'advertising'. Ask any ad sales rep about the ROI for logos on jerseys and you wouldn't have any trouble whatsoever convincing a judge or jury that wearing a jersey with a logo isn't really advertising. Grand scheme of things, the no advertising rule is almost never enforced.

The other provisions you cited above only apply to riders who are members of a team, which FLandis is not.

 

[Polish]

Here... we can compromise.

Floyd finished in the shortest amount of time.

Oscar won the race.

To win a race, you do have to obey the rules. A swimmer in the olympics who finishes in the shortest time but gets disqualified due to an illegal turn doesn't win an olympic gold medal... but they did finish the race faster then anyone else.

"To win a race, you do have to obey the rules"

Ok SmartyPants....who won the TdF in 1999?
Lance finished in the shortest time but Zulle won?

C'mon - if you pedal yourself to the finish fastest without getting caught -you win.
I mean really - how many of the hundred winners of the TdF "obeyed the rules"?
Half maybe? A quarter?

If the Labs cannot bust the riders before they finish the race, well boohoo you snooze you lose. Work a little bit harder and faster next time Mr Bordry....
that is if there IS a next time lol.

 

[Colm.Murphy]

this is not what i thought it was.....

 

[Moose McKnuckles]

"To win a race, you do have to obey the rules"

Ok SmartyPants....who won the TdF in 1999?
Lance finished in the shortest time but Zulle won?

C'mon - if you pedal yourself to the finish fastest without getting caught -you win.
I mean really - how many of the hundred winners of the TdF "obeyed the rules"?
Half maybe? A quarter?

If the Labs cannot bust the riders before they finish the race, well boohoo you snooze you lose. Work a little bit harder and faster next time Mr Bordry....
that is if there IS a next time lol.

Was there a discount on bait at the local tackle shop? If so, I think you got the weakest batch. Again.

 

[Anonymous]

please.

commenting on Danielson and his high-talent/low-IQ existence is hardly a parallel to someone running to the USAC rulebook in a 'see, SEEE.." tattling for a jersey "infraction".

commenting on St. Vaughters and his cask-soaked ego, the great savior of the sport, and his belief and handling of lil tommy is nothing more than opinion. if you want me to add something positive, how about making a suggestion as to what that might be? find me the lining of silver with him and tommy. i notice you don't dispute my thoughts...

Landis is the eternal loser. kicking him in the nuts over a jersey is asinine and speaks volumes about those on this forum who do.

but have it your way, squeeze that pustule till it is red and festering, and the only thing that get you noticed. knock yourself out.

EDIT: also, I am not here to defend or blindly attack athletes or members...just wanted to add that.

Introspection is not your strong suit I see.

 

[baker0127]

Man, some of you guys are rutheless! Metallica sucks.

 

[Colm.Murphy]

Introspection is not your strong suit I see.

anything useful to add? or just here to pick and poke scabs?

Fear amaideach.

 

[D Avoid]

This is totally off-topic, but I have to ask:

how on earth is "Geoghegan" pronounced?

Susan

It is an Iwish name and correctly sounded comes up as Gay-gin, rhyming with bin, din, fin, kin, pin, sin, win, yin but not gin & tonic. Actually the reason it is so weirdly spelt is that it is weirdly pronunced and maybe gay-ghin might be closer or guin,yes, it is the first four letters of Guinness, perfect, that took a lot of thought to find it in every day speech.


I think Flawed Plandis is the perfect pantomime baddie and the website bores this out, it really is kupe inspiring stouff.

 

[Anonymous]

anything useful to add? or just here to pick and poke scabs?

Fear amaideach.

Oh, it is more useful than you know...only you are too blind to see grasshopper.

 

[Race Radio]

Don't believe everything you read.

Floyd finished the 2006 Tour de France 57 seconds ahead of Oscar.

Those 57 seconds are REAL - not imaginary or irrational or surreal....

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2PaWfXuvBoY
.
.
.

Rosie Ruiz won the Boston Marathon
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rosie_Ruiz

 

[Dr. Maserati]

"To win a race, you do have to obey the rules"

Ok SmartyPants....who won the TdF in 1999?
Lance finished in the shortest time but Zulle won?

C'mon - if you pedal yourself to the finish fastest without getting caught -you win.
I mean really - how many of the hundred winners of the TdF "obeyed the rules"?
Half maybe? A quarter?

If the Labs cannot bust the riders before they finish the race, well boohoo you snooze you lose. Work a little bit harder and faster next time Mr Bordry....
that is if there IS a next time lol.

I like you're thinking...

I am going to ring Sarkosy and see if I can get in to the Tour, and while all the peloton is riding circles around France I will just hit straight for Paris, sweet.

Put your money on me now - Michael Ball, are you listening - the 2010 Tour could be over after the first week
depending on how many bars I stop at.

 

[Polish]

Rosie Ruiz won the Boston Marathon
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rosie_Ruiz

Using the "took the subway" example is as effective an argument as a LOLCat poster. Or a FailBoat picture. Or a ShortPlane appearance. Weak....


But yes, if Floyd spent a large portion of the 2006 TdF being secretly ferried around the course in the Phonak Team Bus instead of riding - then yes, I agree, Oscar would be the winner.

Unless of course if all the GC DangerMen were being secretly ferried around, including Oscar, then the win goes back to Floyd. Or maybe Jan....