Teams & Riders Froome Talk Only

[frenchfry]

what a strange coincidence that nutritional gains and super advanced training programs only work on Dawg and Porte.

Never underestimate the power of washing your hands regularly.

Donkey to easy TDF winner in 3 years guaranteed.

 

[sittingbison]

....and a note for mods, if you ever suspend me again for trolling where 110% of this forum is trolling im gonna send some notices to your higher ups.

no problemo

 

[sittingbison]

.....I was banned for repeat arguments to this statements, so there is censure here...

BS you were banned for carrying on like a pork chop after clearly being instructed to desist...several times.

 

[BroDeal]

and a note for mods, if you ever suspend me again for trolling where 110% of this forum is trolling im gonna send some notices to your higher ups.

LOL. You do that. Maybe they'll cut his pay.

 

[Benotti69]

Quintana climb better than Froome and he is clean.
Sastre and Evans were better sometimes than Froome, cleans.

But the questions in not that, I think Froome is one of the best in History, but of course there were a lot of people all over the worl with more potential than Froome and could win him if they are trained correctly for that since 15 years old.

Maybe Pantani was outside human possibility, but Pantani is far away of Froome. Performance most of people did in the dark era will be one day improved for clean people.

Quintana told another pro last month, if i were riding in Colombia I couldn be top 5.

I was banned for repeat arguments to this statements, so there is censure here, so if you want I explain you this in private, and why Froome perfomance looks more than really is and why the argument that some people give has his mistakes.

In the sport of cycling where dopers win the GTs point to proof that Froome and Quintana are clean. The UCI runs the anti doping, McQuaid is the head honcho of the sports anti doping. You need to be really stupid to test positive.

 

[thehog]

I want to be cleans.

 

[Escarabajo]

why would anyone think he is clean?

No draft??? He almost drafted 80% of the climb. That makes quite a bit of difference.

If I correct for draft I get 6.27 watts/kg. that's a 31 minute effort. Correcting a little for 59 kg gives me 6.2 watts/kg.

Alpe d'Huez would be better mountain for comparing. And he drafted quite a bit also. I get 6.25 watts/kg with draft and 57 kg. 6.2 watts per kilogram for the weight difference.

 

[Escarabajo]

Sastre was on the Fuentes programme.
Cadel worked with Ferrari. And boasted to guys in the peleton of the same.

I don't think that Sastre was clean, but what is your source for this assessment. Is the first time I hear it.

Cadel just did some tests long time ago. Do you have additional information?

 

[BroDeal]

I don't think that Sastre was clean, but what is your source for this assessment. Is the first time I hear it.

Cadel just did some tests long time ago. Do you have additional information?

His manager is Tony Rominger, a real dirtbag. Rominger is the one who pressured Saiz to restablish his link with Dr. Fuentes after Saiz had broken off relations because of Heras' positive. Rominger's client, Vino, needed better doping support. It is interesting that when Evans left Omega for BMC, Rominger did not shop him around to teams to find the best deal. Vaughters did not even know that Evans was on the market. It makes you wonder what kind of agreement Rominger made with Rihs about medical support. A few months later one of BMC's soigneurs was busted with a load of EPO.

 

[mikeoneill]

I agree it is humanly possible to ride stronger than what riders were doing in the 80s, 90s and even 2000s. The advancements in nutrition and training programs tell me this. Also, I would say that almost all sporting competitions have seen an increase in performance both in power and in stamina.

track and field hasn't

except where doping has continued or an outlier comes on the scene


other than a few examples mens sprints,800,marathon

most other historic doped performances are currently unsurpassable

 

[alitogata]

Are you still talking about Froome?? Haven't you get bored yet??

 

[BYOP88]

BS you were banned for carrying on like a pork chop after clearly being instructed to desist...several times.

If this forum had a 'like' button. You'd have one for the above.

 

[Escarabajo]

No draft??? He almost drafted 80% of the climb. That makes quite a bit of difference.

If I correct for draft I get 6.27 watts/kg. that's a 31 minute effort. Correcting a little for 59 kg gives me 6.2 watts/kg.

Alpe d'Huez would be better mountain for comparing. And he drafted quite a bit also. I get 6.25 watts/kg with draft and 57 kg. 6.2 watts per kilogram for the weight difference.

Correction:

For Alpe d'Huez I have 6-6.1 Watts/kg depending on which weight you want to use.

 

[Alphabet]

Quintana climb better than Froome

Not true. Froome kicked his ***. Especially on Ventoux and Ax-3-Domaines.

 

[darwin553]

track and field hasn't

except where doping has continued or an outlier comes on the scene


other than a few examples mens sprints,800,marathon

most other historic doped performances are currently unsurpassable

The point is, and I'm just using one example to illustrate how modern sport has enhanced in its performance is to say could a 90s or early 2000s Man Utd beat a current day's one provided they were the same players but subject to today's training and nutrition programs? I argue clearly not...so whose to say we can't apply that sort of analogy to Froome and Sky.

 

[simo1733]

track and field hasn't

except where doping has continued or an outlier comes on the scene


other than a few examples mens sprints,800,marathon

most other historic doped performances are currently unsurpassable

Mo Farah just broke the European 1500m record.He is faster at 1500m than Cram,Coe,Ovett.Hard to believe.

 

[BroDeal]

The point is, and I'm just using one example to illustrate how modern sport has enhanced in its performance is to say could a 90s or early 2000s Man Utd beat a current day's one provided they were the same players but subject to today's training and nutrition programs? I argue clearly not...so whose to say we can't apply that sort of analogy to Froome and Sky.

Oh, Jeebus, save us. You are trying to equate football with cycling? That is ludicrous.

 

[Ripper]

BS you were banned for carrying on like a pork chop after clearly being instructed to desist...several times.

"carrying on like a pork chop"

This is gold!

 

[Ripper]

there were 5 statements

which are not true?

also, amazed you survived without the daily **** dose of this forum

and a note for mods, if you ever suspend me again for trolling where 110% of this forum is trolling im gonna send some notices to your higher ups.

Well, yuuz got banned again, so I guess your (LMAO) threat was not a stressor.

 

[Galic Ho]

The point is, and I'm just using one example to illustrate how modern sport has enhanced in its performance is to say could a 90s or early 2000s Man Utd beat a current day's one provided they were the same players but subject to today's training and nutrition programs? I argue clearly not...so whose to say we can't apply that sort of analogy to Froome and Sky.

Pro football, aka soccer, is run by FIFA who are anything but legit!

Keep trolling bro. Keep trolling. Man you have no idea about pro sports do you? I mean you really are out of the loop. FIFA dictated terms to WADA on when they can test players. FFS Lionel Messi is the product of extreme HGH abuse. He literally would never have grown past 5 feet if it weren't for drugs.

Modern day football is all about doping. Ask Fuentes. He has the dirt on the whole La Liga. Ask AC Milan, where older players, like Beckham, go to extend their career. Well they use to. Sounds like the Italians were cracking down on it. BTW do tell us which lovely chap owns AC Milan! Or better yet, go ask Arsene Wenger about some of the blood profiles of players Arsenal have scouted. NOT NORMAL. Or tell us that all those young players who have heart attacks and die or almost die, tell us that is normal!

Pro football is the way it is because there is wall to wall doping. Man Utd...go and have a nice chat with Rio Ferdinand champ. Ask him about missing drug tests. The league and teams dictate when they are tested. Few run proper internal testing programs. Next thing you know you will be telling us AFL in Australia is full natty.

 

[Wallace and Gromit]

Mo Farah just broke the European 1500m record.He is faster at 1500m than Cram,Coe,Ovett.Hard to believe.

Not sure that taking less than a second off a 28 year old 1500m performance by Steve Cram is that hard to believe tbh. Particularly as he finished 2nd in the race and was effectively "paced" all the way round.

What is harder to get your head round is that Coe et al's times from the early / mid 80s barely got improved at European level even during the height of the EPO era when at world level, the performance at 1500 and upwards were improving dramatically. Show how good those guys were. EPO hadn't been invented and the frequency with which Ovett and Cram raced it's hard to believe they were doing transfusions.

 

[LaFlorecita]

"carrying on like a pork chop"

This is gold!

Agreed. Thanks for the laugh sittingbison.

 

[mikeoneill]

Mo Farah just broke the European 1500m record.He is faster at 1500m than Cram,Coe,Ovett.Hard to believe.

it is unbelievable


if mo's not on peds i'm bill clinton

 

[Zam_Olyas]

it is unbelievable


if mo's not on peds i'm bill clinton

Is your monica hot?

 

[airstream]

Bravo Kanstantin Siutsou and Vasil Kiriyenka! Bravo Richie Porte!! Bravo Christopher Froome!!! That was a lot of fun. I intentionally prevented myself from reading this thread for the Tour in order not to overstrain my stomach from laughter. But as I see humor is still alive...