Fully doped cycling? 65km TDF Stage 17

[Lequack]

So what will the sprinters be doing in a stage liek this?

 

[Robert5091]

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So what will the sprinters be doing in a stage liek this?

Not much more then making sure they don't miss the time cut.

 

[roundabout]

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There was a stage in the 70's to Mont Revard (I think) that was even shorter.

I can only find Mount Revard having been climbed once last century, in 1965, Stage 18, a 26.9km MTT.

Maybe another climb?

1972, stage 15

http://bikeraceinfo.com/tdf/tdf1972.html

Le Revard is the name of the ski resort there

 

[Blanco]

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Well they let Valverde ride so maybe you're right. I'm actually glad. I'm sick of "doping" being used to mask hatred of individual riders... or teams. Too many "Mary Whitehouse" sheet-sniffers taking obnoxious puritanical stances in this forum. Some posters here never post anywhere else on the CN Forums. There are some great posters in this sub-forum ... the ones who actually bring some scientific analysis to the subject in particular, but you have to wade through a morass of bile to find it. I'm reminded of something in Viv Albertine's autobiography: she says, in the company of Don Cherry (jazz musician) that she hates junkies (he is a junkie). He replies that he "hates hate". I'm sick of it. Really looking forward to the first half of the TDF.

And why wouldn't they let Valverde ride?

 

[Alex Simmons/RST]

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There was a stage in the 70's to Mont Revard (I think) that was even shorter.

I can only find Mount Revard having been climbed once last century, in 1965, Stage 18, a 26.9km MTT.

Maybe another climb?

1972, stage 15

http://bikeraceinfo.com/tdf/tdf1972.html

Le Revard is the name of the ski resort there

A 28km road stage!

 

[thehog]

This stage is going to be even more nuts now. Froome and Porte already down on time. The TTT might even up some of the those times along with the cobbles blowing them up again.

 

[thehog]

It’s finally here! Froome to win his 5th Tour has to attack!!

 

[ontheroad]

It's *** or get off the pot tomorrow for those in the top 10. I expect a few early moves from those slightly lower down on GC. The likes of Landa, Bardet, Quintana, Kruiswijk, Martin, Valverde et al surely must try something almost from the get go. Absolutely nothing happened today which tells me that we will see fireworks tomorrow.

Or will Froomey go nuclear again in a bid to make history, he basically has tomorrows stage and Friday to do something before the time trial.

 

[JosephK]

It’s finally here! Froome to win his 5th Tour has to attack!!

The Sky attack could begin at the very start. If so, there will be no peloton to speak of halfway up the first climb. There are only ascents and descents. If Froome is of a mind to pull another Landis, this stage is ripe for it.

 

[The Hitch]

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An interesting stage and topic spoilt by the OP reference to possible motors.

You could argue that 100 years of cheating in the TDF and in particular the compliance of authorities in that cheating, is what spoiled the thread (and so much else in cycling) and not the refusal of a poster to pretend everything is shiny.

 

[The Hitch]

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Batshit crazy conspiracy talk I can cope with. Use of offensive terminology I can't. C'mon people, grow up.

What batshit crazy conspiracy theories are you reffering to? The idea that cyclists might cheat? Yeah really crazy

 

[Robert5091]

Sky to TTT it?

 

[ontheroad]

Sky to TTT it?

This is not as bizarre as it sounds. There are 2 possible options:

1) Team trial it all the way.
2) Send Froome up the road in the likely early breakaway (I'd expect this to be full of a lot of strong riders in top 15 on GC) and let the remainder of the team operate a TT in behind.

 

[simoni]

I think people are getting a bit over-excited here talking about risky long range solo attacks although it'd be interesting to see if anyone in the top 10 has an early go to try and take team-mates out of the eqaution early.

In my dreams Jumbo, Movistar and AG2R have had a clandestine meeting and agreed to sacrifice Kruiswijk, Valverde, Quintana and Latour in an early move for the greater good!

 

[Robert5091]

Well, for the first time we might actually hear Prudhomme say, "Start your engines please!"

 

[thehog]

I think people are getting a bit over-excited here talking about risky long range solo attacks although it'd be interesting to see if anyone in the top 10 has an early go to try and take team-mates out of the eqaution early.

In my dreams Jumbo, Movistar and AG2R have had a clandestine meeting and agreed to sacrifice Kruiswijk, Valverde, Quintana and Latour in an early move for the greater good!

Everything going to script. Sky on the front

 

[ontheroad]

Jakob Fulgsang after todays stage:

"I'm not surprised the others are faster than me but I'm surprised how much faster they are. I just talked with Landa after the stage and he can't believe it either. Says he did less watts last year..."

 

[hfer07]

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Jakob Fulgsang after todays stage:

"I'm not surprised the others are faster than me but I'm surprised how much faster they are. I just talked with Landa after the stage and he can't believe it either. Says he did less watts last year..."

and is always SKY setting up those insane paces......
Perhaps the Magic Kenyan has issues going full *** on short stages, but nonetheless the WHOLE TEAM literally trashed everybody!

see- Egan could have gone up to G when Dumo attacked and kill him off.....

but folks are only looking at how the magic Kenyan just run out of Salbutamol in the last K

 

[Cookster15]

Don't be silly this is all explained by marginal gains .......

Careful planning means making sure the riders are at the very top of their game and performing at optimism, this doesn’t mean it doping it means nutrition, preparation, fitness training programme, rehydration, living arrangements, everything

I just don't buy this line. Is anyone who isn't British and only started following cycling since 2012 buying it?

 

[the delgados]

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Well, for the first time we might actually hear Prudhomme say, "Start your engines please!"

I think the term "LOL' is way overused.
This is maybe the fifth time in my life that I'm sending a genuinely sincere LOL.
Thank you for the laugh.