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Popeye was doping - shock! :surprised:
https://www.dw.com/en/german-scientists-say-spinach-chemical-should-be-banned-from-sports/a-49342711
Scientists at the Freie Universität Berlin have recommended that ecdysterone, a steroid-like chemical found in spinach, be added to the list of banned doping substances, German media reported Tuesday.

The university's Institute of Pharmacy led a 10-week strength training program with 46 athletes to test how the substance affected their physical performance.

Some of the participants were given placebos, others were given ecdysterone capsules containing the equivalent of up to 4 kilograms (or 8.8 pounds) of raw spinach a day.

During the study, which was supported by the World Anti-Doping Authority (WADA), those taking the supplement saw their physical strength increase three times as much as their placebo-taking counterparts.

"Our hypothesis was that we would see an increase in performance, but we didn't expect it to be that big," the Maria Parr at the Berlin university's Institute of Pharmacy said in an interview with broadcasters ARD and ARTE.

The results mean ecdysterone belongs on the list of banned substances for sports, the researcher added.

"We recommended to WADA in our report that the substance be added to the doping list. We think that if it increases performance, then that unfair advantage should be eliminated."

The decision would be left up to an expert body at the agency, but that will only likely happen after further investigation into how many athletes use the supplement.
According to this https://www.naturalnewsblogs.com/ecdysterone-used-performance-enhancing-supplement/ there's already many probably taking it.
 
That's an arthropod hormone. Many similar compounds are found in lots of other plants, they think as a defence mechanism against insects. Sticking that on the banned list could be a hole WADA don't want to fall down.


It's possibly already banned as it acts on a nuclear receptor in arthropods. This means, if it does have a biological action in humans, it's likely on something like the PPAR-gamma receptor, estrogen receptor, androgen receptor etc., many of which are already covered in the prohibited list.
 
https://tass.com/sport/1067134
Russia’s two-time European champion in track cycling Yelena Brezhniva decided to return to sports after she had served a lengthy suspension for anti-doping violations, Valery Grinkovsky, the head of the Tula Region Cycling Federation, told TASS on Thursday.

The Russian Anti-Doping Agency (RUSADA) announced in February 2016 that Brezhniva was found guilty of violating anti-doping regulations after her doping sample tested positive for a banned performance enhancing drug. She was slapped with a four-year disqualification, effective from June 22, 2015.

After Brezhniva was informed about the lengthy suspension, she announced a decision to wrap up her sports career.

"Brezhniva was overemotional at the moment of making the decision," Grinkovsky told TASS. "Everything is different now, Brezhniva made a decision to return to sports and last year she resumed active trainings."

Grinkovsky added that the 29-year-old cyclist, whose disqualification term expired on June 21, was most likely to compete at the Russian Championships in St. Petersburg in August.
 
https://www.dw.com/en/europe-record-steroid-bust-leads-to-hundreds-of-arrests/a-49517655
A massive police operation that involved Europe's police agency (Europol), the World Anti-Doping Agency (WADA), and Italian and Greek police led to the seizure of 24 tons of steroid powder, 234 arrests, the closure of nine underground labs, and the dismantling of 17 organized crime groups, Europol said Monday.

"This is the sort of multi-party collaboration that produces real results and can make a significant impact on the availability of counterfeit and illegal drugs used by some athletes globally," said Gunther Younger, intelligence director at WADA.

The operation stemmed from urine and blood tests carried out by WADA officials at various sports events, though the body did not specify when and where the tests were conducted.

Officials said some 1,000 individuals have since been reported for the production, use, and sale of performance-enhancing drugs, and 839 criminal cases have now been opened.

WADA was influential in uncovering the complex trafficking system used to distribute the contraband drugs.

WADA said dealers used social media platforms to advertise their products. Non-professional athletes then used rechargeable credit cards and cryptocurrencies to purchase small amounts of the illicit drugs, which were distributed through gyms and online pharmacies.

The police operation, codenamed Viribus, was coordinated by Europol, led by Italy's Carabinieri and Greek police, and involved agents from Interpol, the Joint Research Center, and the European Anti-Fraud Office (OLAF).

Some 23 EU nations and 10 non-EU countries, including Colombia, Switzerland, and the United States, also participated in the operation that netted 3.8 million illegal medicines.
 
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Nice shot from the Open on Saturday of Justin Rose arriving at the course in a courtesy car with his nutritionist. Of all the people he could invite he brings his "nutritionist". At least Lowry arrived with his two year old kid and wife. Judging by his physique and relative lack of length off the tee Lowry may well have won clean today. How the feck does a skinny little runt like Fleetwood drive longer than a big unit like Lowry?
 
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Singer01 said:
Nice to see a couple of the swimmers refusing to share podium with Sun. If his reaction today was anything to go by its clearly getting to him.
I actually think it's poor sportsmanship by Horton who should be censured.
No, Horton should be applauded read up on the case. He's not alone British and others have done the same. What Sun is accused of is blatant if he is found guilty he will get a life ban. His arrogance on the medal dias over the top. FINA a joke for delaying the court case until after the worlds so Sun could compete obviously petrified of China. Then of course Horten has endured a social media hate campaign by Chinese trolls. Very very ugly.
 
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buckle said:
http://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/amp/swimming/49137969

My interpretation is that the Australians are being told to STFU or else they risk exposure for the Anglo-Saxon hypocrites they really are. A measure of the power of the Chinese economy and its importance to the continuation of contemporary bread and circuses.
Seems likely, or she just doped and nobody needs to put on a tin hat?
I don't doubt she doped.
 
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BullsFan22 said:
Singer01 said:
Nice to see a couple of the swimmers refusing to share podium with Sun. If his reaction today was anything to go by its clearly getting to him.
I would respect them if they themselves weren't doping.

100% there is a new PED on the market. Those swimmers have been breaking Ian Thorpe and Michael Phelps seal-suit times.
 
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yaco said:
Singer01 said:
Nice to see a couple of the swimmers refusing to share podium with Sun. If his reaction today was anything to go by its clearly getting to him.
I actually think it's poor sportsmanship by Horton who should be censured.
IF he is clean it is a great action. More please.

How sad that Australia swimming new it had just days earlier sent a girl home after a failed test, and didn't tell any of the swimmers.

https://www.theage.com.au/sport/swimming/shayna-jack-s-positive-drugs-test-bitterly-disappointing-and-embarrassing-says-swimming-australia-20190728-p52bgn.html
 
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AustCyclingFan said:
yaco said:
Singer01 said:
Nice to see a couple of the swimmers refusing to share podium with Sun. If his reaction today was anything to go by its clearly getting to him.
I actually think it's poor sportsmanship by Horton who should be censured.
IF he is clean it is a great action. More please.

How sad that Australia swimming new it had just days earlier sent a girl home after a failed test, and didn't tell any of the swimmers.

https://www.theage.com.au/sport/swimming/shayna-jack-s-positive-drugs-test-bitterly-disappointing-and-embarrassing-says-swimming-australia-20190728-p52bgn.html
Not really.

The difference is Shayna Jack was immediately suspended. The system works and at least Australian swimming deals with its problems. But Sun Yang smashes his own blood vial, bullies fellow swimmers in and out of the pool and gets to continue swimming and winning world titles while his case is delayed. If you think about it Jack's case makes Sun Yang look even more shameful. It stinks.
 
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AustCyclingFan said:
BullsFan22 said:
Singer01 said:
Nice to see a couple of the swimmers refusing to share podium with Sun. If his reaction today was anything to go by its clearly getting to him.
I would respect them if they themselves weren't doping.

100% there is a new PED on the market. Those swimmers have been breaking Ian Thorpe and Michael Phelps seal-suit times.
Which records - short course?

Not sure about Phelps but the world long course 400m freestyle record (3:40:07) is held by Germany's Paul Biedermann in 2009 in a now banned supersuit.

Ian Thorpe's best of 3:40:08 in 2002 was set in a textile suit with some tests showing can even be slower than skin which is why most chose not to wear similar at that time.

Thorpe remains the best middle distance swimmer of all time bar none. No swimmer before or since has his stroke. Every elite swimmer at that time including the Americans and British were in awe.
 
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BullsFan22 said:
Singer01 said:
Nice to see a couple of the swimmers refusing to share podium with Sun. If his reaction today was anything to go by its clearly getting to him.
I would respect them if they themselves weren't doping.
Maybe they are doping or should I say probably they are doping. But they have not taken a hammer to blood vials to stop the testing.
Sun Y. makes a joke out of the process. He should not be allowed at the 2020 Tokyo Olympics. His fans and the other people who went after Horton are shameful.
 
Brajkovič's blog post about his eating disorder, eating disorders within the professional peloton, and how his positive for Methylhexaneamine was caused by a supplement is interesting for its insight into mental health issues within professional cycling, a subject that I suspect future generations will consider more important than doping unless we start dealing with it soon.

But, on the doping angle: here's another positive caused by a supplement. A few months ago we had Samuel Sánchez getting two years on the naughty step for what the UCI accepts was probably a contaminated supplement. A few days ago we had an Aussie pro with a conti squad leaping aboard the Shayna Jack bandwagon with his story of how a contaminated supplement sent him to the naughty step. In pro cycling, stories of contaminated supplements causing positives abound.

I'm pretty sure than 90% of Clinicians will hear someone blaming a contaminated supplement and scoff. Tom Danielson - who last week came down from his four years on the naughty step - blamed a supplement, but some also seemed to be blaming his ex before that excuse was roled out. And Bert, he ended up blaming a supplement but started out with a steak. Experience seems to teach us that blaming a contaminated supplement is the last best hope when you don't want to admit to actually having doped.

But. We do know we have a real problem with supplements, we know that some IFs and NADOs go to the bother of producing lists of safe supplements, we know that some teams buy from a central source and keep track of batch numbers. We know that they're doing this for a reason, we know that the industry does have a problem, sometimes from accidental cross-contamination as a result of poor cleaning standards, sometimes deliberately, cause that's what makes their products work for the average Joe and Jane Punter.

So, the question, then: what'd to be done? Should we be calling for supplements to be regulated? I recall around the time Spitting in the Soup came out being told that with Orrin Hatch in Congress that would never happen, but Hatch is gone, so maybe it's possible?
 
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And Bert, he ended up blaming a supplement but started out with a steak.
AFAIK, Contador insisted all along that he didn't take a supplement--because, of course, if he had admitted that, he would have gotten some penalty. But even after CAS concluded it was a supplement, I still think he denied that it was. I think he held on to the steak explanation all the time.

So, the question, then: what'd to be done? Should we be calling for supplements to be regulated?
They're definitely poorly regulated, with companies getting away with outrageous claims. As far as the banned substances some of them contain, during the Contador case, I posted something about a Dutch organization, that provided a list of safe supplements.

Hatch is gone, so maybe it's possible?
I hadn't realized that he retired earlier this year.
 
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What's the theory about contaminated supplements? That a pharmacist didn't wash his hands before making the supplement? That seems to happen a lot.

The article about Brajkovic is interesting to read. He seems very honest about his eating disorder. The obsession and the pressure to control your body can mess someone up. I wonder how many riders are struggling with this kind of problems.
 

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