Gesink bashes "riders like Ricco"

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Wigwan said:
People seems to forget that you cannot call out a rider with no proof of him doping.
This is, in fact, what Gesink says in this very same interview. You can start calling out riders,

"but then they'll say: 'look at that Gesink, who's supposed to have broken his leg, and then rode so fast in California.' It's as simple as that.

I have no problems defending myself for a result I don't think is that bad, while I know that others ahead of me were riding really fast. It could of course be they're simply better, that's also possible."

It's a bit unfair, and frankly pretty dumb, to reduce this interview to "omerta defender Gesink only dares to call out that clown Ricco".
 
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perhaps the fact that Gesink never really improved as we had expected him to correlates with Leinders' untimely departure from Rabo?
 
Dekker_Tifosi said:
Gesink had little to do with them as he only became pro in 2007 and rode mostly a different program than the heads of state on the team that year.

He might have an opinion about all those cheating cheaters on his own team who cheated him out of all those awesome results anyway though, don't you think?
 
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Dekker_Tifosi said:
Gesink had little to do with them as he only became pro in 2007 and rode mostly a different program than the heads of state on the team that year.
And what exactly was his relationship with the Cobra? Did they do the same program? Guess not.

Why not bashing Duenas who cost him the Tour the l'Avenir? No, again, lets bash the Cobra. Easy, lame pick.
 

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Fearless Greg Lemond said:
And what exactly was his relationship with the Cobra? Did they do the same program? Guess not.

Why not bashing Duenas who cost him the Tour the l'Avenir? No, again, lets bash the Cobra. Easy, lame pick.

Spot on.

Ricco is the whipping boy, in the hypocritical kaleidoscopic world that is/was pro-racing. Ricco's mistake was to behave like a **** and alienate other riders in ways other than doping.

Ricco could be safely vilified without risking the invective of other riders, other team management, and make the critic look as if they were occupying the moral high-ground.

It was partly this that got Floyds goat. Rather than stick the hypocrisy he brought the house down
 
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Joachim said:
Spot on.

Ricco is the whipping boy, in the hypocritical kaleidoscopic world that is/was pro-racing. Ricco's mistake was to behave like a **** and alienate other riders in ways other than doping.

Ricco could be safely vilified without risking the invective of other riders, other team management, and make the critic look as if they were occupying the moral high-ground.

It was partly this that got Floyds goat. Rather than stick the hypocrisy he brought the house down

How can you make so much sense here and so little elsewhere?
 
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Joachim said:
Spot on.

Ricco is the whipping boy, in the hypocritical kaleidoscopic world that is/was pro-racing. Ricco's mistake was to behave like a **** and alienate other riders in ways other than doping.

Ricco could be safely vilified without risking the invective of other riders, other team management, and make the critic look as if they were occupying the moral high-ground.

It was partly this that got Floyds goat. Rather than stick the hypocrisy he brought the house down

but Cav has alienated the peloton, and hangs on up cat2's and gets back on and wins sprints that Farrar should have won.

and as much as he is entertaining, Peter Sagan has managed to offend other riders, and last year (2011) failed to work for guys like Nibali when he was the teamleader and Sagan was supposed to be a worker.

Ricco's offense, as I see it, were/was, twofold. Rode for Saunier. 2) Had no tact and metaphorically spat in the face of the peloton.

Politically, Ricco was a peasant, a rube. He did not work the margins and play the game. Cav might not be a bookish intelligence, and quite a simple guy. But he can play it politically, and can garner a support around him, in the team. Not on the bike. Ricco is a simple fool.

But I love Ricco all the same. The naif was gold for quotes, and his ignorance was entertaining.

Long live Ricco. Long live le cobra!
 

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Ricco tried to emulate Cipollini's arrogance and grandstanding, but even though they are both as thick as each other, Cipollini did it with a sort of humour that included a bit of self-mockery. Ricco just came across as a cok. It helps if you speak the language. He really does come across badly.

I think that is why some English speaking riders get such a panning for their personalities on this forum. It is because people can actually understand what they are saying, this being an English speaking forum.

As for Cavendish, he's a bit of a lump head too, very young, and gets asked stupid questions a matter of seconds after having risked his life in a sprint that he has just lost. I'm not sure I can think of many sports where participants get subjected to this immediate hassling. Of course, because he is Cavendish and everyone assumes he will win he gets swarmed by the press when he doesn't. I'm not sure many other sprinters have this happen. But yes, he is a bit of a tool.

Curiously, on the hanging on to cars thing, I've yet to see any spectator footage of this. There must be some somewhere.
 
sniper said:
perhaps the fact that Gesink never really improved as we had expected him to correlates with Leinders' untimely departure from Rabo?
That wouldn't be a problem. The famed doping tolerator Theo de Rooij is in fact Gesink's manager, so the doping supply will still have been in tact ;)

spalco said:
He might have an opinion about all those cheating cheaters on his own team who cheated him out of all those awesome results anyway though, don't you think?
The only one he can safely call out is Thomas Dekker. All others haven't been proven, or are involved in lawsuits against Gesink's own team.
 
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need to learn to read and write first

title:
The Cobra, my first book I read is(sic) the one I wrote