Giro 2012: Route Rumours / Our wishes

[Eshnar]

I edited the first post and put there the rumoured route.
This way it should be more readable. I'll update it directly as soon as I know something else.

 

[Ferminal]

Stelvio, with 1 km of sterrato after the proper pass, to finish at 2832m.

That top part would be steep too?

 

[Eshnar]

That top part would be steep too?

I don't have first-hand infos...
but if it's about 1 km long and the altitude gain is 2832-2758=74m, then the average will be around 7%...

 

[Ryo Hazuki]

Today's Tuttosport has an article about stage 20. It confirms the rumours I posted... Cavalese - Stelvio

Cavalese - Egna - Mezzocorona - Val Di Non - Val Di Sole - Tonale - Aprica - Tirano - Mortirolo (from Tovo) - Grosio - Bormio - Stelvio, with 1 km of sterrato after the proper pass, to finish at 2832m.

I made the profile

The Tovo side is not available yet, so I just used a sector of the Mazzo one. The actual climb should be 4 km longer, and so the descent.
Please note the total lenght of the stage...

edit: Stage 13 should be a hilly stage finishing near Cuneo, while the MTF to Piani Resinelli could have Valcava before.

couldn't be more perfect for rujano, especially the altitude and lenght of the stage

 

[Eshnar]

tbh, the stage rumoured could reach 270 kms... there's still a little steep climb right after Aprica which I forgot to include in the profile. If really this stage will be THAT long I'll be shocked

 

[jens_attacks]

tbh, the stage rumoured could reach 270 kms... there's still a little steep climb right after Aprica which I forgot to include in the profile. If really this stage will be THAT long I'll be shocked

let's prepare ourselves for a gardeccia on steroids.8 hours of bad-asz racing.

 

[killswitch]

let's prepare ourselves for a gardeccia on steroids.8 hours of bad-asz racing.

Mike Snow likes this.

 

[luckyboy]

Didn't want to look at this thread until the route is officially announced, but that profile looks amazing

 

[Descender]

Not happening and you know it.

 

[The Hitch]

That stage, Wow.

but i see some potential faults.

1 It makes me worry that there wont be anything else in the Giro because they would use up like 3 major stages in 1 there.

2 obviously we cant have 1 rider running away with the race at this point, otherwise its a wasted stage with only a stage win and possibly KOM and points to fight for.

3 it might come too late in the race. See Ventoux 09 or Finnestre last year which should have been an awesome stage. Riders might be too tired.

4 Mortirolo might be wasted. Stelvio isnt as steep as the others and there are flat kms between.

That means attacks are more risky. You will need to maintain on flat sections if you are on your own.

On Giua Fedaia Gardeccia there was barely any gap between the descents and climbs.

 

[Moncoutie]

That stage, Wow.

but i see some potential faults.

1 It makes me worry that there wont be anything else in the Giro because they would use up like 3 major stages in 1 there.

2 obviously we cant have 1 rider running away with the race at this point, otherwise its a wasted stage with only a stage win and possibly KOM and points to fight for.

3 it might come too late in the race. See Ventoux 09 or Finnestre last year which should have been an awesome stage. Riders might be too tired.

4 Mortirolo might be wasted. Stelvio isnt as steep as the others and there are flat kms between.

That means attacks are more risky. You will need to maintain on flat sections if you are on your own.

On Giua Fedaia Gardeccia there was barely any gap between the descents and climbs.

Hmm...good points. And I was just getting excited!

 

[Mellow Velo]

Almost as if the new organizers are looking to be just as extreme as Zomegnan, but in a more traditional way.

I hope they don't stick too many of their eggs into this one, very late basket.
Worried about the possibly wasted Mortirolo, too.

 

[jens_attacks]

That stage, Wow.

but i see some potential faults.

1 It makes me worry that there wont be anything else in the Giro because they would use up like 3 major stages in 1 there.

2 obviously we cant have 1 rider running away with the race at this point, otherwise its a wasted stage with only a stage win and possibly KOM and points to fight for.

3 it might come too late in the race. See Ventoux 09 or Finnestre last year which should have been an awesome stage. Riders might be too tired.

4 Mortirolo might be wasted. Stelvio isnt as steep as the others and there are flat kms between.

That means attacks are more risky. You will need to maintain on flat sections if you are on your own.

On Giua Fedaia Gardeccia there was barely any gap between the descents and climbs.

you forgot that we're talking here about il giro not le tour
and i loved finestre this year

still let's await for the official route

 

[hfer07]

Today's Tuttosport has an article about stage 20. It confirms the rumours I posted... Cavalese - Stelvio

Cavalese - Egna - Mezzocorona - Val Di Non - Val Di Sole - Tonale - Aprica - Tirano - Mortirolo (from Tovo) - Grosio - Bormio - Stelvio, with 1 km of sterrato after the proper pass, to finish at 2832m.

I made the profile

The Tovo side is not available yet, so I just used a sector of the Mazzo one. The actual climb should be 4 km longer, and so the descent.
Please note the total lenght of the stage...

edit: Stage 13 should be a hilly stage finishing near Cuneo, while the MTF to Piani Resinelli could have Valcava before.

wow- and I was afraid the new Giro management was going to be discrete with the Mountains stage's grade of difficulty- this one looks amazing!!!!!

 

[The Hitch]

Im not sure what this means. Does it mean both Stelvio and Mortirolo or that its either or?

If its the latter that stage wont be happening.

 

[Eshnar]

Im not sure what this means. Does it mean both Stelvio and Mortirolo or that its either or?

If its the latter that stage wont be happening.

It means they'll try to put both in.

 

[Ferminal]

Yes and on twitter they said they had something of a surprise regarding this coming up "tomorrow".

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Do you remember the polls to choose the climbs you would like to see in the 2012? STELVIO and MORTIROLO won...tomorrow a great surprise!

Don't miss the appointment: tomorrow BIG ANTICIPATION on Giro d'Italia 2012 route! Be there... #giro

 

[The Hitch]

The polls were a bit rigged like those WWE ones to be fair.

You decide, but the way its set up its clear what people are going to vote for.

As if they were going to choose Blockhous and Passo Tonale.

 

[Ferminal]

I thought Aprica was a chance...

 

[Lupetto]

And here it is.

http://www.gazzetta.it/Giroditalia/2011/09-2011-Primo_Piano/mortirolo-stelavio-803080302320.shtml

 

[just some guy]

Hitch has started writing already - anyone take this stage start from him maybe hunted down and dealt with

 

[Zoncolan]

It looks great! Not as long as we expected, but real tough!
Close to 6,000 m!!!
Hopefully we see real racing on both sides of the Mortirolo.

I love this comment:

quanto ci scommettete...

sulla carta tappa che promette fuoco e fiamme... ma vedrete che alla fine qualche piangina dirà che il percorso è pericoloso, la discesa non è sicura, le condizioni meteo non sono buone... e la taglieranno... a discapito di chi vuole godersi un grande spettacolo...

A cynic worthy of CN.

 

[LukeSchmid]

Looks like a great stage but I have not sure the last saturday is the place to put it. It seems that nothing much tends to happen on the first or last mountain stages in a GT.

 

[Ferminal]

Crostis-Zoncolan MkII

Mortirolo will force a selection, for sure, the descent will be a huge factor, and anything could happen on the grind up Stelvio.

 

[just some guy]

Crostis-Zoncolan MkII

if it gets called off many many fans will more than upset imo