Giro 2012: Route Rumours / Our wishes

[craig1985]

Here you have it

That screams Vincenzo Nibali.

 

[on3m@n@rmy]

 

[craig1985]

If the Stelvio is going to be back in, I hope they have a viable Plan B, because IIRC, snow is a major problem, even in May.

 

[Lupetto]

The more likely route (imho) should be this one

Agnello, Izoard, Lautaret, Alpe

Yeah, they did this stage in 1994 with the finish in Les Deux Alpes. In this edition they also did THE tappone, with Pantani flying on Mortirolo.

Lecco wants a stage next year for a time trial to Piani Resinelli. And there could be a tough mountain stage with Piani di Praglia, Madonna della Guardia, Bocchetta, Castagnola and Giovi finishing in the heart of Genova.

My wishes are: More medium mountain stages 220km+ instead of bs like Macugnaga, two longer tt (one flat, and one hilly/mountainous like Riomaggiore 2009 or Saint-Étienne 1997) and a finish on Colle di Tenda's french side with 48 hairpins and sterrato.

 

[Hugo Koblet]

That screams Vincenzo Nibali.

He'll be long gone before the final descent.

 

[Moncoutie]

This thread has got me so excited for next May!

Jan The Man, you got some nice ideas there!

 

[El Pistolero]

Am I the only one that likes climbs like Alpe D'huez or Etna more than stuff like the Zoncolan and Angliru?

 

[Eshnar]

Lecco wants a stage next year for a time trial to Piani Resinelli. And there could be a tough mountain stage with Piani di Praglia, Madonna della Guardia, Bocchetta, Castagnola and Giovi finishing in the heart of Genova.

Living in Genova, I can't disagree with that

 

[Timmy-loves-Rabo]

Am I the only one that likes climbs like Alpe D'huez or Etna more than stuff like the Zoncolan and Angliru?

I like Alpe D'Heuz, despite the not so steep (still tough) gradient, it usually is pretty decisive. The constant corners are great.

Etna I find to be very overrated (I looked at the profile prior to the giro, and thought it more after they raced it).

But anyway Zoncolan is just amazing. I love seeing the strongest grind their way up a mountain, slowly opening a gap.
T'is better then any one day race, or stage for me. Epic.

 

[Climbing]

He'll be long gone before the final descent.

Admitting he's gonna race the Giro and not the Tour, depending on many things, Basso 2011 performance and will for 2012, for first.

 

[UpTheRoad]

Am I the only one that likes climbs like Alpe D'huez or Etna more than stuff like the Zoncolan and Angliru?

Yes.


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[Maesto]

My thoughts about an awesome 2012 Giro:

- 6 Sprint stages of wich 2 in the last week.
- 1 Small MTF around 2-3 Km of pure steepness.
- Rifugio Calvanico MTF ( Very likely ).
- Finish after the descent of the Monte Neurone ( nice stage through the Marche ).
- MTT, Monte Crostis.
- TT of about 40 - 50 km.
- Big dolomites stage around the 4/5 climbs, with MTF on the Pampeago/Tre cimi di Laverdo.
- Nice Trentino stage with Stelvio and maybe Mortirolo/Gavia.
- Esischie/fauniera Double.
- Big stage with MTF on alpe D'huez ( confirmed ).

 

[El Pistolero]

I like Alpe D'Heuz, despite the not so steep (still tough) gradient, it usually is pretty decisive. The constant corners are great.

Etna I find to be very overrated (I looked at the profile prior to the giro, and thought it more after they raced it).

But anyway Zoncolan is just amazing. I love seeing the strongest grind their way up a mountain, slowly opening a gap.
T'is better then any one day race, or stage for me. Epic.

Well, obviously I'm biased, but I was bored during the Zoncolan climb

In the Etna I was thinking the whole time will Contador gift it or will he own it. I love climbs like Arcalis(although that one was boring in '09 cause of the head wind), Verbier and Etna.

Just find Zoncolan too slow. I love these fast accelerations and they're not possible on the Zoncolan.

 

[Ferminal]

Am I the only one that likes climbs like Alpe D'huez or Etna more than stuff like the Zoncolan and Angliru?

Alpe and Etna are different climbs. Alpe is what, 14km at over 8%? It's shorter and steeper than most others (in France).

I prefer the odd 20-25km climb at over 6%, but it can be bad if no one attacks early, Etna without Contador would have been horrible.

- 1 Small MTF around 2-3 Km of pure steepness.

Montelupone?

 

[luckyboy]

Well, here are some death climbs for people to look at.

They should pave Alpe Fuori by Preglia/Crevodossola north of Milan.

And there's San Genesio-Edelweiss north of Bolzano

Prato Maslino is south-west of the Mortirolo/Bormio.

Also, the Pavicolo, which is north-east of the Mortirolo/Bormio.

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[Lanark]

I would like:

MTF on the Stelvio. This has been done in the past. Sure, there are a lot more cars and everything nowadays, but it should be possible. The problem with the Stelvio and Gavia the last couple of years is that they're usually too far from the finish, making the useless, and almost detracting from their legend.

Some new interesting climbs.

MTF on the Crostis, after the strade bianche. This eliminates any problems the climb would have this year (descent, too long without cars (they don't complain about motorbikes on the Zoncolan).

Tre Cime di Lavaredo (ok, this would be a bit too much with all of the above, but I really would love to see this climb again).

 

[El Pistolero]

Alpe and Etna are different climbs. Alpe is what, 14km at over 8%? It's shorter and steeper than most others (in France).

I prefer the odd 20-25km climb at over 6%, but it can be bad if no one attacks early, Etna without Contador would have been horrible.



Montelupone?

I didn't say they were the same climbs though.

 

[IlCobraFan]

2006: Mortirolo and Plan de Corones
2008: Mortirolo and Plan de Corones
2010: Mortirolo and Plan de Corones

Very likely to be included in 2012

 

[Parrulo]

crostis ITT

that+ MTT on plan de corones + stelvio as MTF and an epic stage a la stage 15 this year

also would like it to have a very long itt on the first week of the race so climbers would have to attack and regain time on guys with a strong itt.

also more strade bianche. as many k's with hills in them as close to the finish as possible

 

[Bavarianrider]

Perfect Giro 2010

9km Prologue
3 uphill finishes
4 mounatin finishes
Bondonne, Alpe D'Huez, Passo Lancione, Kronplatz
2 more high mountain stages
Mortirola-Aprica (Col D'Agnel) Briancon
Mountain time trial ca 35km
Team Time trail 70km
Flat Time trial 65km
4 medium mountains stages
rest sprint stages

 

[Parrulo]

lol at almost 200k of time trial.

BV even with 500 k's of time trial your boy tony martin would still lose. jjust get over it.

 

[Bavarianrider]

lol at almost 200k of time trial.

BV even with 500 k's of time trial your boy tony martin would still lose. jjust get over it.

There have been GT with well over 200km. So it's not a crime to wish those days back. Nothing to do with Tony, he'll not race there anyway. I just want the rolleurs to have their share too.

 

[El Pistolero]

2007 had more then 120km of time trial and still a pure climber would have won that totally sucks in time trials(Rasmussen) and the winner on the road was also a pure climber back then with an average time trial.

Having 200km of time trials will just end up in Contador winning with a 20 minute margin on the second.

 

[Bavarianrider]

2007 had more then 120km of time trial and still a pure climber would have won that totally sucks in time trials(Rasmussen) and the winner on the road was also a pure climber back then with an average time trial.

Having 200km of time trials will just end up in Contador winning with a 20 minute margin on the second.

So be it. If he's the srongest allrounder then that's what it is.

 

[Libertine Seguros]

I'd like a long (60km or so) ITT on the Ligurian coast towards Sanremo. Possibly even include Poggio in there. Why not? Then follow that with a mountain stage using the climbs like Colle d'Oggia, Passo Ghimbegna and the Colle di Longan. This should probably have a descent or short flat finish.

This stage should be followed by a 2003-style beast over Esischie or Fauniera and Sampeyre, perhaps with the Pontechianale finish.

Then a stage from Pinerolo to Alpe d'Huez over Sestrières, Montgenèvre, Lautaret and Huez. Not such a tough stage as some of the mooted ones, but given the two preceding stages, more than enough.