Giro 2012: Route Rumours / Our wishes

[Eshnar]

what is wrong with two itt's in a grand tour?

dunno I hope the ITT in Lecco is long enough.

 

[Ryo Hazuki]

dunno I hope the ITT in Lecco is long enough.

me too. at least 40 km imo and flat

 

[Eshnar]

me too. at least 40 km imo and flat

agreed (10 char)

 

[Eshnar]

Updates....

1-3 Danmark
REST
4: TTT in Verona
5: flat to Rimini or Cervia
6: flat (?) to Pescara
7: MTF to Campitello Matese or mixed stage to Campobasso
8: mixed (?) stage to Barletta or San Giovanni Rotondo
9: Foggia - somewhere in Lazio
10: Strade Bianche (Viterbo? - Siena)
11: MTF to San Pellegrino in Alpe
12: Rapallo
13: Somewhere in Piemonte (flat?)
14: Cervinia
15: MTF to Piani Resinelli(Lecco)
REST
16: ITT near Brescia (?)
17: Treviso - Tre Cime Di Lavaredo (OR Cortina)
18: Cortina - Vedelago
19: Vedelago - Alpe di Pamepago
20: Cavalese? - Passo dello Stelvio (and above )
21: Milan (flat or maybe ITT)

Rumours say the San Pellegrino In Alpe is gonna be stage finish. That's a pity, because the final in Abetone was a great stage. As I said before, it was perhaps too good to be stage 11. A stage like that so early could have been epic, but it also could have provided nothing (you need gc guys attacking at 40 kms to go on stage 11... it's not obvious they will). This way it will surely be a good stage but nothing more.

Stage 15 seems to be a MTF to Piani Resinelli (and this is reliable, since we know from a while that Lecco has paid for the Lombardia AND a stage in the Giro)

The ITT is still the darkest mistery of the route.

In an italian forum someone said that the stage to Vedelago will start from Cortina, so the stage to the Tre Cime must be before. It could also end directly in Cortina, after the descent of Giau (and I believe this, since there aren't other descent finishes)

No updates about the two final mountain stages. (but is almost certain stage 19 will start from Vedelago)

 

[Lupetto]

Today's Tuttosport confirms a (hilly) stage for the Provincia di Cuneo.

This article also announces the return of Milano-Torino in 2012.

 

[Ferminal]

This article also announces the return of Milano-Torino in 2012.

That is great.

Is/was it organised by RCS? Held at the same time? MSB and Milano-Torino within a couple of days of each

 

[LukeSchmid]

http://www.cyclingnews.com/news/2012-giro-ditalia-to-have-a-more-balanced-route

It looks like the route is going to be ****ing piece of ****. What a ****ing waste. Ruining the best race in world the ****ers. I hate it!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

 

[Duartista]

http://www.cyclingnews.com/news/2012-giro-ditalia-to-have-a-more-balanced-route

My ideal Giro would be like the 2010 race: it was a hard Giro, as a Grand Tour has to be, but it was balanced. This year’s race wasn’t,” Acquarone recently told Italian magazine Tuttobici.

Considering most are agreed that the 2010 Giro was the best GT of the last decade, this looks promising.

 

[LukeSchmid]

Um, what?



Considering most are agreed that the 2010 Giro was the best GT of the last decade, I don't see your point.

I have deleted my post!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

 

[vcampbell]

http://www.cyclingnews.com/news/2012-giro-ditalia-to-have-a-more-balanced-route





Considering most are agreed that the 2010 Giro was the best GT of the last decade, this looks promising.

This years Giro route was one of the best and also hardest ever. It's true that there was no such a great fight, but please, there was some guy Alberto Contador. How the race was it always depends on the riders. In this year only Scarponi and Rujano wanted to fight with Albert, but just image this years route, and last years peloton. Epicness overload!
I'm just hoping for the presentation, where everything will be great etc, but when the race arrives then we will see that it was much better what Zomegnan created. I just can't forget before the Vuelta how almost everone said that it will be a super difficult Vuelta. Yeah, we have seen that... They will give us a Tour de France 2, and stole what made the Giro the best GT in the past few years.

 

[spalco]

Updates....

12 race days between rest days? That's intense.

 

[The Hitch]

http://www.cyclingnews.com/news/2012-giro-ditalia-to-have-a-more-balanced-route





Considering most are agreed that the 2010 Giro was the best GT of the last decade, this looks promising.

It was the best Gt thanks to Laquilla which forced Basso Evans to fight Arroyo as well as themselves, creating the Grappa Zoncolan and Mortirolo stages which made it so great.

 

[Tank Engine]

If you mean there aren't super HC as MTF, this is good. The important is there are super HC before the final climb... San Pellegrino In Alpe + Abetone is a great mountain stage, for example (perhaps too good to be so early in the race), St.Pantaleon + Cervinia the same. If the Stelvio is a penultimate climb the last one won't matter too much (and if it's easy the riders will be forced to attack on the Stelvio). It all comes down to the route of the dolomitic stages, especially the last one, which has a lot of alternatives. If the Tre Cime are really preceeded by Duran + Staulanza + Giau, I really don't see what you could expect more.

Like your thinking.

Also, I'm glad the Strade Bianche seem to have become a fixed point of the race.

Final request: One reasonably long TT at the start of week 2 and a short one at the end (in Milan, fine, or a short mountain TT)

 

[Duartista]

This years Giro route was one of the best and also hardest ever. It's true that there was no such a great fight, but please, there was some guy Alberto Contador. How the race was it always depends on the riders. In this year only Scarponi and Rujano wanted to fight with Albert, but just image this years route, and last years peloton. Epicness overload!
I'm just hoping for the presentation, where everything will be great etc, but when the race arrives then we will see that it was much better what Zomegnan created. I just can't forget before the Vuelta how almost everone said that it will be a super difficult Vuelta. Yeah, we have seen that... They will give us a Tour de France 2, and stole what made the Giro the best GT in the past few years.

There were some great stages, but there were too many mountain top finishes which made it rather one dimensional. It certainly wasn't one of the best GT routes ever.

The Hitch is correct that the 2010 Giro benefited from the freak L'Aquila stage and the bad weather, but it still had a much better balance of stages than this year (although a longer time trial would have been good).

 

[El Pistolero]

The Giro needs to attract more puncheurs as well. Could make for even better racing on the strade bianche stages.

 

[LukeSchmid]

There were some great stages, but there were too many mountain top finishes which made it rather one dimensional. It certainly wasn't one of the best GT routes ever.

The Hitch is correct that the 2010 Giro benefited from the freak L'Aquila stage and the bad weather, but it still had a much better balance of stages than this year (although a longer time trial would have been good).

Thankyou Duartista

 

[gregrowlerson]

I never watched it (was still just a TDF fan boy!), but looking back on the parcours for the '09 Giro, I reckon that was awesome. Very well balanced, with some pretty out there stages (crazy steep downhill finish in week one, 60 km ITT).

 

[Eshnar]

Today's Tuttosport has an article about stage 20. It confirms the rumours I posted... Cavalese - Stelvio

Cavalese - Egna - Mezzocorona - Val Di Non - Val Di Sole - Tonale - Aprica - Tirano - Mortirolo (from Tovo) - Grosio - Bormio - Stelvio, with 1 km of sterrato after the proper pass, to finish at 2832m.

I made the profile

The Tovo side is not available yet, so I just used a sector of the Mazzo one. The actual climb should be 4 km longer, and so the descent.
Please note the total lenght of the stage...

edit: Stage 13 should be a hilly stage finishing near Cuneo, while the MTF to Piani Resinelli could have Valcava before.

 

[Zoncolan]

Today's Tuttosport has an article about stage 20. It confirms the rumours I posted... Cavalese - Stelvio

Cavalese - Egna - Mezzocorona - Val Di Non - Val Di Sole - Tonale - Aprica - Tirano - Mortirolo (from Tovo) - Grosio - Bormio - Stelvio, with 1 km of sterrato after the proper pass, to finish at 2832m.

I made the profile

The Tovo side is not available yet, so I just used a sector of the Mazzo one. The actual climb should be 4 km longer, and so the descent.
Please note the total lenght of the stage...

That would be absolutely epic, though I don't quite see the need for using sterrato on such a stage. There will probably still be plenty of snow at that altitude. The last thing we want to see is riders climbing off their bikes because they can't get any traction.
A stage with Tonale, Mortirolo, and Stelvio...drool0)

 

[greenedge]

The best thing about this year's Giro were the Hitchs' previews

 

[Eshnar]

That would be absolutely epic, though I don't quite see the need for using sterrato on such a stage. There will probably still be plenty of snow at that altitude. The last thing we want to see is riders climbing off their bikes because they can't get any traction.
A stage with Tonale, Mortirolo, and Stelvio...drool0)

They want to go higher than the Bonette, to steal the record from the Tour.

 

[Anonymous]

Today's Tuttosport has an article about stage 20. It confirms the rumours I posted... Cavalese - Stelvio

Cavalese - Egna - Mezzocorona - Val Di Non - Val Di Sole - Tonale - Aprica - Tirano - Mortirolo (from Tovo) - Grosio - Bormio - Stelvio, with 1 km of sterrato after the proper pass, to finish at 2832m.

I made the profile

The Tovo side is not available yet, so I just used a sector of the Mazzo one. The actual climb should be 4 km longer, and so the descent.
Please note the total lenght of the stage...

edit: Stage 13 should be a hilly stage finishing near Cuneo, while the MTF to Piani Resinelli could have Valcava before.

Triple wow!!! will be fantastic.

 

[jens_attacks]

Today's Tuttosport has an article about stage 20. It confirms the rumours I posted... Cavalese - Stelvio

Cavalese - Egna - Mezzocorona - Val Di Non - Val Di Sole - Tonale - Aprica - Tirano - Mortirolo (from Tovo) - Grosio - Bormio - Stelvio, with 1 km of sterrato after the proper pass, to finish at 2832m.

I made the profile

The Tovo side is not available yet, so I just used a sector of the Mazzo one. The actual climb should be 4 km longer, and so the descent.
Please note the total lenght of the stage...

fucc my life what a stage.i hope the snow will be melted my then,i really hope.
this is rujano's playground

 

[Dancing On The Pedals]

Today's Tuttosport has an article about stage 20. It confirms the rumours I posted... Cavalese - Stelvio

Cavalese - Egna - Mezzocorona - Val Di Non - Val Di Sole - Tonale - Aprica - Tirano - Mortirolo (from Tovo) - Grosio - Bormio - Stelvio, with 1 km of sterrato after the proper pass, to finish at 2832m.

I made the profile

The Tovo side is not available yet, so I just used a sector of the Mazzo one. The actual climb should be 4 km longer, and so the descent.
Please note the total lenght of the stage...

edit: Stage 13 should be a hilly stage finishing near Cuneo, while the MTF to Piani Resinelli could have Valcava before.

Ow. Just ow. (but awesome )

 

[craig1985]

Today's Tuttosport has an article about stage 20. It confirms the rumours I posted... Cavalese - Stelvio

Cavalese - Egna - Mezzocorona - Val Di Non - Val Di Sole - Tonale - Aprica - Tirano - Mortirolo (from Tovo) - Grosio - Bormio - Stelvio, with 1 km of sterrato after the proper pass, to finish at 2832m.

I made the profile

The Tovo side is not available yet, so I just used a sector of the Mazzo one. The actual climb should be 4 km longer, and so the descent.
Please note the total lenght of the stage...

edit: Stage 13 should be a hilly stage finishing near Cuneo, while the MTF to Piani Resinelli could have Valcava before.

Epic.