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What would you rate the 2025 Giro?

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tobydawq

tobydawq

Nov 16, 2013
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Libertine Seguros said:
No, it's just that it's the equivalent of a football match that's 0-0 until the 89th minute because both sides are afraid of losing, then suddenly turns into a frenetic battle when both teams realise they really don't fancy a penalty shoot-out and it's helter-skelter for extra time. It's not wrong to be entertained by it and have enjoyed it and come out of the game buzzing from the action as both teams went all out to win in the final half hour, but it's not wrong to point out that the first 89 minutes were ass.
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This is completely ignoring what he actually said in the post.

For some reason, you have decided to decree that the first two weeks were crap in this race. I certainly didn't find it so, and from what I can read in this thread I am fortunately not alone with this. It's frankly annoying that you just dismiss our opinions as recency biased as if everyone else but you has the memory of a goldfish.
 
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tobydawq

tobydawq

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QueenStagiaire said:
Lol What is this even based on? Exciting final or just if he liked the winner?
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I don't know. It certainly doesn't make much sense. I don't know if he factors in his personal experiences with the races (I think he might have followed all of them on the road which is impressive in itself) too or what. I don't think it's based on whether he liked the winner, though.
 
tobydawq

tobydawq

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Netserk said:
2014 a star above 2010 ...
2019 a star below 2023 ...
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Yeah, it's hilarious. Also, what does a race have to do to get five glasses? And apparently a rider has to die for the race to only get one glass. So you basically have a scale of three grades. And then it just seems like rolling a three-sided die if such a thing could exist to determine where the given race should be put (although 2015, 2017 and 2018 are placed correctly).
 
Netserk

Netserk

Apr 30, 2011
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tobydawq said:
Yeah, it's hilarious. Also, what does a race have to do to get five glasses? And apparently a rider has to die for the race to only get one glass. So you basically have a scale of three grades. And then it just seems like rolling a three-sided die if such a thing could exist to determine where the given race should be put (although 2015, 2017 and 2018 are placed correctly).
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A die doesn't have to be a convex polyhedron.
 
topcat

topcat

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I enjoyed the 2025 edition (even though I would have preferred Carapaz or del Toro to win over Yates). I am influenced by the fact that the 3 editions before this one were moribund. I think Netserk's revised ranking is about right. Now on to the serious questions:
Do you sound more intelligent if you complain about the route and give a low ranking?
Is ranking overly affected by your guy crashing out/not winning?
Is ranking of this edition too high because of the 3 toe curling editions before it?
Put me down for a 6.
 
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Red Rick

Red Rick

Feb 20, 2012
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The ones seperated by an empty line are differences that are just indisputable in my mind, the ones clustered together I might be swayed one way or another.

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Netserk

Netserk

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tobydawq said:
It does not?
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It just has to be fair. Whatever works, works.

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Samu Cuenca

Samu Cuenca

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I wasn't the biggest fan of the route either, but in the end it helped create (alongside the crashes and UAE tactics) an almost perfect scenario ahead of Finestre, where the gaps between the top 3/5 weren't massive, but still big enough for Carapaz and Yates to have to attack early in order to turn things around. A climb like that deserves to be decisive, unlike FEEDAAIIAAAA!!! in 2022 and Monte Lussari in '23, so I can live with the fact that it wasn't an all time great race beforehand, although it wasn't that bad either.

Del Toro got his breakthrough, Carapaz and, to a lesser degree, Bernal returned to the top, Tarling won his first GT stage (and was unlucky not to win a second), Pedersen did his thing, Verona finally won a GT stage, Fortunato found a role that suited him much better than being a top 15 GC guy, and Gee Geelivered the goods. 7/10.

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@Samu Cuenca
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I often make that misteka, too, so I won't comment.
 
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Samu Cuenca

Samu Cuenca

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Red Rick said:
How the standards have dropped. In 2021 the Vuelta was a bad GT for him despite being way more impactful.
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I think it's only natural that expectations and judgments have changed after what he's been through and what he's been capable of doing in GTs since his accident, but many people are probably also hoping that this isn't it and that he'll continue to progress.
 
Red Rick

Red Rick

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Samu Cuenca said:
I think it's only natural that expectations and judgments have changed after what he's been through and what he's been capable of doing in GTs since his accident, but many people are probably also hoping that this isn't it and that he'll continue to progress.
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In absolute terms, he's better than pre crash, so that's I don't really think that's hampering him. Like he was top 10 in 6 stage races before the TdF last year, some with a better field than this Giro. Then he was stupidly overraced at the Tour.

In reality he just hasn't improved as much with the times as other riders, which I think happened to plenty other riders.
 
Samu Cuenca

Samu Cuenca

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Red Rick said:
In absolute terms, he's better than pre crash, so that's I don't really think that's hampering him. Like he was top 10 in 6 stage races before the TdF last year, some with a better field than this Giro. Then he was stupidly overraced at the Tour.

In reality he just hasn't improved as much with the times as other riders, which I think happened to plenty other riders.
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I still, at least for now, assume he too would have been able to improve more without the accident. Since he never was an alien in the first place, I also doubt he'd have been at the very top nowadays, but I can't see why he shouldn't have been able to fight for podiums or maybe even the win in a GT where the very best riders aren't present or crash out.
 
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jmdirt

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Hugh Januss said:

  1. Today at 11:25 AM

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    Monday at 6:07 AM

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    Monday at 2:41 AM

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    Reactions to my post in this thread, nothing unusual, except check the "Points" for the three posters. :oops:
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I don't think that I've ever looked at my points. What do they even mean? Several above have 28,180, I'm mad that they have more than me! :)
 
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