Giro del Trentino 2012

[Bavarianrider]

Is Pordoi gonna be the first Mountain >2000m raced on European soil for 2012?

It's basically a false flat from that side, though

 

[Mellow Velo]

Short TTT in short stage races really make no sense

Why do you say that: Is it because of the extra work that the teams have to put in, with bikes, mechanics etc?
Otherwise, 15kms against the clock seems more than adequate in a 4 stage race............except perhaps one with these parcours.

It's basically a false flat from that side, though

While the Pordoi is one of the more gradient friendly Dolomite climbs, I'd hardly call it a false flat.
Stands to reason, if they intend going over 2000m in April, they select a more accessible road.
Good for the bigger engines, more like.

 

[nvpacchi]

Looking at the profile for the Pordoi stage again, it essentially looks like a 177km false flat.

I'm pleased to see Pordoi included. Not as difficult as some of the more recently used/discovered Dolomite climbs, but legendary and essential to Italian cycling nonetheless.

 

[Bavarianrider]

Why do you say that: Is it because of the extra work that the teams have to put in, with bikes, mechanics etc?
Otherwise, 15kms against the clock seems more than adequate in a 4 stage race............except perhaps one with these parcours.



While the Pordoi is one of the more gradient friendly Dolomite climbs, I'd hardly call it a false flat.
Stands to reason, if they intend going over 2000m in April, they select a more accessible road.
Good for the bigger engines, more like.

Exactly i mean bringing all those TTT bikes equipment ect siply seems like a lot of work and organization. Especially in such a climbers race this really seems like a waste. If they have a TTT they should do it on normal road bikes. At least this would make things easier.

Well it's below 6% average . So compared to that othe rmountain there it's a false flat.

 

[uphillstruggle]

Exactly i mean bringing all those TTT bikes equipment ect siply seems like a lot of work and organization. Especially in such a climbers race this really seems like a waste. If they have a TTT they should do it on normal road bikes. At least this would make things easier.

You do realise that TTT bikes are just TT bikes. One for every rider. So the work is just the same as if there was a individual time trial.

Funny I never though I see you argue to remove TT's from races altogether

 

[plooton]

Maybe organizers intentionally put TTT to course as a chance for riders to test it towards upcoming Giro d'Italia TTT.

 

[Zam_Olyas]

Di Luca motivated

http://www.velonation.com/News/ID/1...Cycling+News+&+Race+Results+|+VeloNation.com)

 

[plooton]

From RomanKreuziger.com :

„Chtěl jsem tam jet v úterý a ve středu, ale padlo to kvůli špatnému počasí. V Dolomitech všude nad 900 metrů padal sníh, nahoře zavřeli silnice a nedalo se tam jet. Na Passo dello Stelvio, kde končí nejtěžší etapa předposlední den, napadlo přes metr a půl sněhu,“ prozradil Roman. „Nedá se nic dělat. Měl jsem v plánu vidět celkem tři etapy, ale musel jsem to odložit. Snad zbyde nějaký čas hned po Romandii,“ dodal.

Lídr Astany přesto jednu etapu viděl: tu královskou, která ho čeká ve čtvrtek na Trentinu. Cíl je na vrcholu Punta Veleno. „Tam tak špatné počasí nebylo. Jel jsem ji zkoušet se sportovním ředitelem týmu Martinellim. Dalo se to projet a musím říct, že ten cílový kopec je strašný. Přirovnal bych ho k Zoncolanu. Je fakt extrémně těžký,“ řekl Roman.

Briefly: He says, he planned to go through three Giro d'Itlia stages, but had to put it off cos there was snowing all over 900 meters in the Dolomites, with new 1.5 meters snow cover on Zoncolan and police closed the passes. He only made the queen 3rd Trentino stage with Punta Veleleno, and stated on the climb that the finish hill was really terrible and compared it to Mt. Zoncolan climb.

 

[Ruvu75]

I thinnk the course will have some changes due to the weatherforecast:

http://www.meteogiornale.it/previsioni-meteo/passo-pordoi

 

[Zam_Olyas]

Lampre

1. SCARPONI Michele
2. CUNEGO Damiano
3. LLOYD Matthew
4. POSSONI Morris
5. BONO Matteo
6. MALORI Adriano
7. MARZANO Marco
8. NIEMIEC Przemyslaw

Liquigas
11. BASSO Ivan
12. AGNOLI Valerio
13. CAPECCHI Eros
14. LONGO BORGHINI Paolo
15. VANOTTI Alessandro
16. SALERNO Cristiano
17. SARMIENTO TUNARROSA Cayetano José
18. SZMYD Sylvester

Ag2r
21. GADRET John
22. BERARD Julien
23. BONNAFOND Guillaume
24. DUPONT Hubert
25. GAZVODA Gregor
26. MONTAGUTI Matteo
27. PERGET Mathieu
28. ROCHE Nicolas

Astana
31. KREUZIGER Roman
32. TIRALONGO Paolo
33. BOZIC Borut
34. SEELDRAEYERS Kevin
35. RENEV Sergey
36. KANGERT Tanel
37. BRAJKOVIC Janez
38. KASHECHKIN Andrey

BMC
41. BALLAN Alessandro
42. FRANK Mathias
43. PHINNEY Taylor
44. PINOTTI Marco
45. SANTAMBROGIO Mauro
46. SANTAROMITA Ivan
47. ROE Timothy
48. WYSS Danilo

Europcar
51. BERNAUDEAU Giovanni
52. CHARTEAU Anthony
53. GAUTIER Cyril
54. KERN Christophe
55. MALACARNE Davide
56. QUEMENEUR Perrig
57. REZA Kévin
58. ROLLAND Pierre

Colombia coldeportes
61. ATAPUMA HURTADO Darwin
62. GONZALEZ BARRERA Javier
63. LAVERDE JIMENEZ Luis Felipe
64. OSPINA NAVARRO Dalivier
65. PANTANO Jarlinson
66. QUINTERO Carlos Julian
67. RODRIGUEZ GALINDO Michael
68. FORERO CARRENO Juan Pablo

Acqua and Sapone
71. BETANCUR GOMEZ Carlos Alberto
72. CODOL Massimo
73. DI LUCA Danilo
74. DONATI Alessandro
75. MASCIARELLI Andrea
76. MIHOLJEVIC Vladimir
77. REDA Francesco
78. TABORRE Fabio

Androni
81. RUJANO GUILLEN José
82. SERPA PEREZ Jose Rodolfo
83. SELLA Emanuele
84. FELLINE Fabio
85. OCHOA Carlos José
86. RUBIANO CHAVEZ Miguel Angel
87. RODRIGUEZ Jackson
88. DE MARCHI Alessandro

champions system.
91. GANG Xu
92. BUTLER Chris
93. CLARKE William
94. FRIEDEMANN Matthias
95. LEWIS Craig
96. OTHMAN Muhamad Adiq Husainie
97. JIAO Pengda
98. WURF Cameron

Farnese
101. RABOTTINI Matteo
102. DE PATRE Roberto
103. BERTOLINI Thomas
104. ASCANI Luca
105. GIORDANI Leonardo
106. MAZZANTI Luca
107. NARDECCHIA Umberto
108. ANDRIATO Rafael

Colnago
111. POZZOVIVO Domenico
112. LOCATELLI Stefano
113. BRAMBILLA Gianluca
114. COLEDAN Marco
115. PAGANI Angelo
116. PIRAZZI Stefano
117. LOMBARDI Omar
118. LOCATELLI Paolo

Spidertech
121. BOILY David
122. VANDBORG Brian Bach
123. ANDERSON Ryan
124. EUSER Lucas
125. DE LUNA Flavio
126. KUNZLI Raymond
127. FAIRLY Caleb
128. BELL Zach

Team NetApp
131. SCHORN Daniel
132. BARTA Jan
133. BENEDETTI Cesare
134. KONIG Leopold
135. HUZARSKI Bartosz
136. DIETZIKER Andreas
137. HOLLENSTEIN Reto
138. BRANDLE Matthias

Utensilnord
141. FANELLI Stiven
142. BERDOS Oleg
143. BAILETTI Paolo
144. MUCELLI Davide
145. VILA ERRANDONEA Patxi Javier
146. ROCCHETTI Federico
147. PISCOPIELLO Fabio
148. LAGANÀ Sergio

United Healthcare
151. DE MAAR Marc
152. DEIGNAN Philip
153. FRATTINI Davide
154. JONES Christopher
155. CLARKE Jonathan
156. MCCARTNEY Jason
157. SUTHERLAND Rory
158. WHITE Bradley

 

[Zam_Olyas]

II Giro is coming.

and can this be stickied?

 

[Ryo Hazuki]

man the weather is so bad in italy that I think the stages will be canceled or seriously altered

 

[Eshnar]

man the weather is so bad in italy that I think the stages will be canceled or seriously altered

The Pordoi stage could. The others shouldn't, low altitude and no snow (I guess)

 

[Ruvu75]

Stage 2 passes Palu del Fersina (http://www.meteogiornale.it/previsioni-meteo/palu-del-fersina) and after that they should climb Passo Redebus which is even a 100m higher.
4 degrees with chances of snow.

Stage 3 could be better, because it's more south, on the eastside of Lake Garda.

 

[Eshnar]

Stage 2 passes Palu del Fersina (http://www.meteogiornale.it/previsioni-meteo/palu-del-fersina) and after that they should climb Passo Redebus which is even a 100m higher.
4 degrees with chances of snow.

even if it snows, that shouldn't be too much, and in Trentino they're used to clear roads from snow you know The main issue could be ice on the descent, but 4 degrees are enough.

 

[Ruvu75]

even if it snows, that shouldn't be too much, and in Trentino they're used to clear roads from snow you know The main issue could be ice on the descent, but 4 degrees are enough.

Yep, that's what they're used to do in Trentino...
But riding in such circumstances is NOT what they're used to do in the peloton

 

[Eshnar]

Yep, that's what they're used to do in Trentino...
But riding in such circumstances is NOT what they're used to do in the peloton

Well it has to be a training camp for the Giro... There won't be 20 °C on the Stelvio in May...

 

[greenedge]

One of Cunego/ Scarponi to win.

I hope Basso can start to go well.

Barta to top 5.

Gadret, Kreuziger, Rolland ( hopefully ), Serpa and Rujano and Di Luca to go well too.

 

[jens_attacks]

little androids squad:

Fabio Felline, Josè Rujano, Josè Serpa, Emanuele Sella, Alessandro De Marchi, Miguel Angel Rubiano, Carlos Ochoa e Jackson Rodriguez.

so yep the good news is rujano's injury wasn't serious thanks god.this giro without rujanito would be half a disaster.
can't wait for punta veleno

 

[will10]

Androni did a great TTT at Settimana last year, hope they can put in a good performance tomorrow, would be a good sign towards limiting their losses in the Giro TTT

 

[sucotash]

One of Cunego/ Scarponi to win.

I hope Basso can start to go well.

Barta to top 5.

Gadret, Kreuziger, Rolland ( hopefully ), Serpa and Rujano and Di Luca to go well too.

Barta is not a great climber, to big mountains for him. Konig should be their best chance for the GC, maybe Huzarski. Netapp should win or be close in the TT

Cunego, Scarponi, Szmyd, Rolland, Pozzovivo, Rujano, Gadret for the win.


Great field of climbers, should be a great race

 

[dlwssonic]

I can see BMC or Lampre winning the TTT. Not because their team is great(its crap). But because the other teams TTT are even crapier Maybe liquigas and astana can win it too.

 

[Ryo Hazuki]

but bmc always suck in ttt's they don't seem to train them at all

 

[sucotash]

my money for the TTT is on Netapp, Lampre also should do a good TT

 

[dlwssonic]

but bmc always suck in ttt's they don't seem to train them at all

last years TDF TTT???

They have Pinotti, Phinney and Ballan though.