Greg Van Avermaet - Rank him against these 9 riders!

[frisenfruitig]

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Van Avermaet is quite hold. I think it his hard to compare him now, how long will he last? A year or two maximum I think.

Hard to predict honestly. He's 31 years old now so he should have at least 3 more solid years in him. I mean, look at Valverde! Almost 37 years old and still smashing everyone as if they're amateurs :lol:

 

[Billie]

Van Avermaet only started cycling when he was 20. He's a young 31

 

[Valv.Piti]

Greg's dieselmotor is unparalleled in the way classics are ridden this year. He can just go on and on and not lose any power really.

 

[WheelofGear]

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Van Avermaet is quite hold. I think it his hard to compare him now, how long will he last? A year or two maximum I think.

Dumbest post of today. This isn't the 1970's and he is a classics rider (they last longer).

34 is pretty much the same as 30 for a rider who started late.

 

[Gigs_98]

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Just curious why you're comparing him to Froome and Quintana, who aren't great comparisons, but not Contador or Valverde, and not Sagan.

Why is Contador a better comparison than Quintana and Froome?

 

[VayaVayaVaya]

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Just curious why you're comparing him to Froome and Quintana, who aren't great comparisons, but not Contador or Valverde, and not Sagan.

Why is Contador a better comparison than Quintana and Froome?

I miscommunicated. I don't think any of the GT riders are good comparisons; I was curious about the rationale regarding the selections.

 

[jsem94]

The word legend is being thrown around rather lightly here though... GVA is nowhere near legendary status. Neither is Evans. Cunego? I think that's stretching things too. Some riders have provided us with legendary rides and moments, but that does not warrant legendary status as a rider in and of itself. Andy Schleck's Galibier ride was one of epic and legendary proportions but in no way is Andy a legend of the sport.

 

[portugal11]

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The word legend is being thrown around rather lightly here though... GVA is nowhere near legendary status. Neither is Evans. Cunego? I think that's stretching things too. Some riders have provided us with legendary rides and moments, but that does not warrant legendary status as a rider in and of itself. Andy Schleck's Galibier ride was one of epic and legendary proportions but in no way is Andy a legend of the sport.

More one

 

[greenedge]

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Yep, RVV will answer this question

It's only one year since he changed from being a nearly man.

It's one thing to have red hot form, another to convert that into big wins, still another to convert that into the biggest win(s). GVA still has to do it on the biggest stage. And that's Belgium, not South America.

Reminds me a lot of Sagan last year: so many fails when it really, really mattered most.....but then, one big win in WC's and then in the stripes, smashing Cancellera in that last little tt to finish RVV. Enough time for everyone to bear witness: this is the moment where he truly arrives.

GVA still awaiting this moment.

Since when is the olympics not the "biggest stage" just because it's not raced in Belgium? The prestige of the olympics is the same regardless of geography.

Probably because in cycling the Olympics is not as big as an event for those athletes (compared to athletics or swimming), everyone knows the TDF is. Also I think since he's a "cobbles rider" Belgium is known as the area of cobbles, so he has to win the major races there to be considered a legend of the Classics.

 

[Piesk8]

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Van Avermaet is quite hold. I think it his hard to compare him now, how long will he last? A year or two maximum I think.

Dumbest post of today. This isn't the 1970's and he is a classics rider (they last longer).

34 is pretty much the same as 30 for a rider who started late.

Compare GVA at his age with any other classics rider. It is ridiculous, he has the classics palmares of a young belgian rider in a professional team.

 

[Echoes]

Yes a lot of Belgians have had so many high places in classics next to wins.

 

[dlwssonic]

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Van Avermaet is quite hold. I think it his hard to compare him now, how long will he last? A year or two maximum I think.

Dumbest post of today. This isn't the 1970's and he is a classics rider (they last longer).

34 is pretty much the same as 30 for a rider who started late.

Compare GVA at his age with any other classics rider. It is ridiculous, he has the classics palmares of a young belgian rider in a professional team.

E3, GW, 2 Omloops, TA, PT, 2 TDF Stages, 1 Vuelta Stage, 1 GP Montreal, 2 RVV Podiums, 1 PR Podium

1 OLYMPICS GOLD RR Medal and a few more.

Just another young Belgian Rider in a Pro team.

 

[movingtarget]

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The word legend is being thrown around rather lightly here though... GVA is nowhere near legendary status. Neither is Evans. Cunego? I think that's stretching things too. Some riders have provided us with legendary rides and moments, but that does not warrant legendary status as a rider in and of itself. Andy Schleck's Galibier ride was one of epic and legendary proportions but in no way is Andy a legend of the sport.

Only Froome and Contador would currently be seen as legends. Schleck, Evans and Cunego were very good riders but not legends. I suppose Boonen makes a case as a legend as well. I think of the riders currently riding it would only be those three. A case can also be argued for Valverde and Gilbert probably more for Valverde due to his consistency and versatility. I don't think Cavendish has done enough in classics to be considered a legend.

 

[Netserk]

Makes a case? You have got to be shitting me. Tommeke ranks above Froome when it comes to legendry.

 

[frisenfruitig]

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Makes a case? You have got to be shitting me. Tommeke ranks above Froome when it comes to legendry.

Yeah, laughable statement. A guy who won The Ronde 3 times, PR 4 times and all other cobbled classics except omloop at least once (most several times), several Tour stages, green jersey, World Champion and countless top 10s in important races "makes a case", but Froome is definitely a legend :lol:

 

[trucido]

Boonen "makes a case" for legend status :lol:

 

[saganftw]

boonen and froome are already legends,quintana is probable...gva,degenkolb,kristoff and kwiatkovski have to win some more to get to that level

personally i think kristoff is doubtfull, degenkolb is questionable because after his injury he seems like a half the cyclist he was in 2015, kwiatek is questionable because he can fall asleep again like he did last season and gva is 32 with maybe 2 more years in him,not as much time left

greipel and tony martin are "legends" as in they have their niche in which they are very good but its not a complete picture because sprinters and TTists are lesser cyclists anyway

 

[movingtarget]

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Makes a case? You have got to be shitting me. Tommeke ranks above Froome when it comes to legendry.

Okay poor choice of words. I said there was three including Boonen.

 

[movingtarget]

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boonen and froome are already legends,quintana is probable...gva,degenkolb,kristoff and kwiatkovski have to win some more to get to that level

personally i think kristoff is doubtfull, degenkolb is questionable because after his injury he seems like a half the cyclist he was in 2015, kwiatek is questionable because he can fall asleep again like he did last season and gva is 32 with maybe 2 more years in him,not as much time left

greipel and tony martin are "legends" as in they have their niche in which they are very good but its not a complete picture because sprinters and TTists are lesser cyclists anyway

Sagan is heading for that status. I wouldn't include any of the others yet. GVA and Kwia are also heading in the right direction as is Quintana especially if he can win the Giro again and win a Tour eventually. Tony Martin has been a TT legend.

 

[Flamin]

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Van Avermaet only started cycling when he was 20. He's a young 31

He started at age 17-18.

 

[trucido]

Too good of a rider to never win a monument, but where is it going to come from now? I don't think P-R suits him as much as RVV.

 

[DFA123]

Quite an impressive performance today, for me. Not so much in the early part of the race when he let the likes of Gilbert, Kristoff and Boonen to steal an advantage. But to get up after being brought down on some hard cobbles - knowing any remote shot of winning has gone - and then to still manage to finish 2nd showed really mental fortitude. Compared with Sagan and Naesen who just gave up at that moment - I think it showed really good character from Greg.

 

[Netserk]

Yeah, bridesmaid placements motive him as much as they did for Canc

 

[WheelofGear]

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Quite an impressive performance today, for me. Not so much in the early part of the race when he let the likes of Gilbert, Kristoff and Boonen to steal an advantage. But to get up after being brought down on some hard cobbles - knowing any remote shot of winning has gone - and then to still manage to finish 2nd showed really mental fortitude. Compared with Sagan and Naesen who just gave up at that moment - I think it showed really good character from Greg.

Definitely deserved the 2nd place. Him and Sagan were the only ones who chased Gilbert in that group.

 

[Screecher]

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Quite an impressive performance today, for me. Not so much in the early part of the race when he let the likes of Gilbert, Kristoff and Boonen to steal an advantage. But to get up after being brought down on some hard cobbles - knowing any remote shot of winning has gone - and then to still manage to finish 2nd showed really mental fortitude. Compared with Sagan and Naesen who just gave up at that moment - I think it showed really good character from Greg.

Pretty sure Sagan´s Bike was broken... Greg was the luckiest of the three in that crash.