Guess Who - Game

[Armchair Cyclist]

So he won a stage of a South American multi-day race between 1945 and 1970?
(I can only find one European rider to have done that , and he is not Belgian)

 

[Samu Cuenca]

So he won a stage of a South American multi-day race between 1945 and 1970? Yes. I assume you haven't found the right race yet

 

[RedheadDane]

Did he win in Colombia?

 

[Samu Cuenca]

Male? Yes
European? Yes
Active? No
Active before 1/1/1990? Yes
Active after 1/1/1990? No
Country a signatory to Treaty of Rome (1957)? Yes

Active before 1/1/1900? No
Ever won a race west of Algier? Yes
Ever won a race north of Billings, Montana? Yes

White on the flag? No
Active before 1/1/70? Yes
Active after 1/1/70? No

Belgian? Yes
Active pre WW2? No
Active post WW2? Yes
Alive? No
Won a race outside Europe? He has won a stage in a non-European race

Won in the Americas? Yes
Won in Africa? No
Won in Asia? No

Won a GT stage? Yes
Won a GT? No
Won a Monument? Yes
Won in North America? No
Won in South America? Yes

Won a Giro stage? No
Won a Tour stage? Yes
Won a Vuelta stage? No

So he won a stage of a South American multi-day race between 1945 and 1970? Yes. I assume you haven't found the right race yet

Did he win in Colombia? No

 

[RedheadDane]

Did he win in Argentina?
Did he win in Brazil?
Did he win in Equador?

 

[Samu Cuenca]

Male? Yes
European? Yes
Active? No
Active before 1/1/1990? Yes
Active after 1/1/1990? No
Country a signatory to Treaty of Rome (1957)? Yes

Active before 1/1/1900? No
Ever won a race west of Algier? Yes
Ever won a race north of Billings, Montana? Yes

White on the flag? No
Active before 1/1/70? Yes
Active after 1/1/70? No

Belgian? Yes
Active pre WW2? No
Active post WW2? Yes
Alive? No
Won a race outside Europe? He has won a stage in a non-European race

Won in the Americas? Yes
Won in Africa? No
Won in Asia? No

Won a GT stage? Yes
Won a GT? No
Won a Monument? Yes
Won in North America? No
Won in South America? Yes

Won a Giro stage? No
Won a Tour stage? Yes
Won a Vuelta stage? No

So he won a stage of a South American multi-day race between 1945 and 1970? Yes. I assume you haven't found the right race yet

Did he win in Colombia? No

Did he win in Argentina? Yes
Did he win in Brazil? No
Did he win in Equador? No

 

[RedheadDane]

Hmm... can't seem to find any stage races in Argentina during that period... change of tactics!

Did he win Flanders?

 

[Samu Cuenca]

Did he win his Argentinian stage in 1969? No

 

[RedheadDane]

Did he win his Argentinian stage in 1969? No

Question no longer applies.

 

[Samu Cuenca]

If you hadn't asked about where had won in the World, you'd probably have figured out his identity already

Did he win Flanders? No

 

[RedheadDane]

Did he win LBL?
Did he win Lombardia?
Did he win a Monument Pogacar didn't win?

 

[Samu Cuenca]

Did he win LBL? Yes
Did he win Lombardia? No
Did he win a Monument Pogacar didn't win? No

 

[Armchair Cyclist]

Stan Ockers?

 

[Samu Cuenca]

Stan Ockers? Yes. Unlike the last few picks he has had races named after him.

Ever won a race outside of Europe?
Lost their life while racing?
Won one or more of the Munements?

 

[Armchair Cyclist]

Ever won a race outside of Europe? No
Lost their life while racing? No
Won one or more of the Monuments? No

 

[RedheadDane]

Male?
Active?

 

[Samu Cuenca]

Alive when Patrick Lenihan died in 1970?
Alive when Brian Lenihan Sr. died in 1995?
Alive when Brian Lenihan Jr. died in 2011?

 

[Armchair Cyclist]

Ever won a race outside of Europe? No
Lost their life while racing? No
Won one or more of the Monuments? No

Male? No
Active? No
Alive when Patrick Lenihan died in 1970? No
Alive when Brian Lenihan Sr. died in 1995? Yes
Alive when Brian Lenihan Jr. died in 2011? Yes

 

[Samu Cuenca]

Active when Mary O'Rourke (née Lenihan) died in 2024?
Alive when Conor Lenihan became a Teachta Dála in 1997?
Similar to the Lenihans, is she from a republic?

 

[Armchair Cyclist]

Ever won a race outside of Europe? No
Lost their life while racing? No
Won one or more of the Monuments? No
Male? No
Active? No
Alive when Patrick Lenihan died in 1970? No
Alive when Brian Lenihan Sr. died in 1995? Yes
Alive when Brian Lenihan Jr. died in 2011? Yes


Active when Mary O'Rourke (née Lenihan) died in 2024? No
Alive when Conor Lenihan became a Teachta Dála in 1997? Yes (having been alive in 1995 and 2011, it figures)
Similar to the Lenihans, is she from a republic? Yes

 

[Samu Cuenca]

That question was what one may call a Fianna Fail.

From the same republic as the Lenihans?
Alive when Brian Lenihan Sr. ran for the Irish presidency in 1990?
Turned pro/became an elite/senior rider before the death of Brian Lenihan Jr.?

 

[Armchair Cyclist]

Ever won a race outside of Europe? No
Lost their life while racing? No
Won one or more of the Monuments? No
Male? No
Active? No
Alive when Patrick Lenihan died in 1970? No
Alive when Brian Lenihan Sr. died in 1995? Yes
Alive when Brian Lenihan Jr. died in 2011? Yes
Active when Mary O'Rourke (née Lenihan) died in 2024? No
Alive when Conor Lenihan became a Teachta Dála in 1997? Yes (having been alive in 1995 and 2011, it figures)
Similar to the Lenihans, is she from a republic? Yes

From the same republic as the Lenihans? Yes
Alive when Brian Lenihan Sr. ran for the Irish presidency in 1990? No
Turned pro/became an elite/senior rider before the death of Brian Lenihan Jr.? No

 

[AmRacer]

Born in another country?

 

[Samu Cuenca]

Imogen Cotter?

 

[Armchair Cyclist]

Ever won a race outside of Europe? No
Lost their life while racing? No
Won one or more of the Monuments? No
Male? No
Active? No
Alive when Patrick Lenihan died in 1970? No
Alive when Brian Lenihan Sr. died in 1995? Yes
Alive when Brian Lenihan Jr. died in 2011? Yes
Active when Mary O'Rourke (née Lenihan) died in 2024? No
Alive when Conor Lenihan became a Teachta Dála in 1997? Yes (having been alive in 1995 and 2011, it figures)
Similar to the Lenihans, is she from a republic? Yes
From the same republic as the Lenihans? Yes
Alive when Brian Lenihan Sr. ran for the Irish presidency in 1990? No
Turned pro/became an elite/senior rider before the death of Brian Lenihan Jr.? No


Born in another country? No

Imogen Cotter? Yes. It wasn't going to be, but you got me thinking about North Clare with the reference to Patrick Lenihan. I could ask my brother to ask her father whether she would be a FF voter next time he sees her at golf, but I'd have to ban myself if I posted the answer.

Male?
Active?
Born near the birthplace of the patriarch of a minor political dynasty?